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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 09 2010 23:53 GMT
#1721
On September 10 2010 07:59 rezoacken wrote:
You mean the company that at first wanted to give it for 50$, then 20$ for low quality.

Yeah right. I can afford it no problem, but I won't because I pay things that I think are worth it. 10$ i would have paid or 20$ for better quality, replays and maybe more than a month, some behind the scene or shit. In its state no way... and I don't care about them not having foreigners money I would not be surprised that with Korean TV audience, peripheral sells, increase of general audience to the channel, and foreigners tickets they should really get enoug money to make some profit now or in an early tournament.


Simply don't pay them money. Strategically making users pay for HD streams without demonstrating robustness first was a massive mistake. I'm not sure how many people paid the 20 but they were taking a leap of faith tthere. Then having a capacity cap on their LQ stream was an equally big mistake pretty much suggesting that they wouldn't have the capacity reliability on their HQ streams. I'm probably only going to catch 6 games of the GSL because of GOM's unsavvy business sense.

I'm not telling anyone to pay $20. I'm just saying that the TL community should show some integrity. If we think that their product sucks, we should boycott the entire thing and not watch it at all.

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viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 23:53 GMT
#1722
haha its okay, you will never get it
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 09 2010 23:56 GMT
#1723
On September 10 2010 08:53 viraltouch wrote:
haha its okay, you will never get it

me?
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 23:57 GMT
#1724
no not at you lol the guy i was talking to just before you posted.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 00:03:50
September 10 2010 00:02 GMT
#1725
that .cn site is amazing, now we just need reposted english vods. lols.
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Nithix
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States184 Posts
September 10 2010 00:13 GMT
#1726
I've noticed today's game's VODs were a bit better in quality, I can MOSTLY read numbers now, its a lot less pixelated and blurry in general. Anyone else notice this, or am I crazy? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
Sad to see Artosis didn't make it through, but you played well bro! Also, that Tester wall after that would have really sucked, but hey. props <3
Not even death can save you from me. - Diablo
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 00:18:55
September 10 2010 00:16 GMT
#1727
I missed tester's games in the morning, just watched the vods... Oh my CHRIST that guy is a beast.

For some reason I didn't particularly enjoy watching Game 1, although it was truly incredible play from both players. I guess I just felt that if I was in tester's position I'd be banging my head against the desk from the start of the drops til the end. Amazing play though, just keeping calm and composed, and god, having HTs at the destructible rock-pathway. That was brilliant, as he could literally carpet storm the path with no place for the T to run.

Game 2 was just sick... Insane forcefields, as everyone noted, and the push was just unstoppable. Anyone else notice how tester warped in zealots in front of the stalkers to soak damage? Amazing once more.

<3 Tester, I want to see him vs Cool in the final, as we all know the PvZ is the SHIZ.

Excited for day 6!

Edit: If any of you are looking for the vods, http://www.youtube.com/user/maxijazzeee#p/u has the VODs in high quality, pretty damn good. They also have the english commentary, but with the Korean commentator's view (or so I think) so you can't always see what tasteless/artosis are talking about, but you get to the big battles right on time
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 10 2010 00:18 GMT
#1728
On September 10 2010 09:13 Nithix wrote:
I've noticed today's game's VODs were a bit better in quality, I can MOSTLY read numbers now, its a lot less pixelated and blurry in general. Anyone else notice this, or am I crazy? lol

+ Show Spoiler +
Sad to see Artosis didn't make it through, but you played well bro! Also, that Tester wall after that would have really sucked, but hey. props <3

You're not crazy. VOD quality was increased from 400kbps to 500kbps.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 10 2010 00:23 GMT
#1729
On September 10 2010 08:46 leve15 wrote:
75% of the people can't even watch the games, as the only time they are free is at 4 in the morning.
To be fair, Day9 Daily is exactly at 4 a.m. CET, and quite a lot of Europeans still stay up to watch it live, even though there are vods, and even though it's educational, instead of competitive.

But yeah, we need vods. I hope GSL gets major sponsors soon, so they can get rid of those limitations asap. From their statements, it seems their goal is to make it all free asap.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Cuddly
Profile Joined November 2008
United States55 Posts
September 10 2010 00:26 GMT
#1730
Are VODs not working for anyone else?
damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
September 10 2010 00:43 GMT
#1731
On September 10 2010 09:26 Cuddly wrote:
Are VODs not working for anyone else?

They've been up and down a couple times today for me.

Clicking the "Set 1" button again (or whichever one your on) seems to help.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 10 2010 00:45 GMT
#1732
On September 10 2010 08:53 TanGeng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2010 07:59 rezoacken wrote:
You mean the company that at first wanted to give it for 50$, then 20$ for low quality.

Yeah right. I can afford it no problem, but I won't because I pay things that I think are worth it. 10$ i would have paid or 20$ for better quality, replays and maybe more than a month, some behind the scene or shit. In its state no way... and I don't care about them not having foreigners money I would not be surprised that with Korean TV audience, peripheral sells, increase of general audience to the channel, and foreigners tickets they should really get enoug money to make some profit now or in an early tournament.


Simply don't pay them money. Strategically making users pay for HD streams without demonstrating robustness first was a massive mistake. I'm not sure how many people paid the 20 but they were taking a leap of faith tthere. Then having a capacity cap on their LQ stream was an equally big mistake pretty much suggesting that they wouldn't have the capacity reliability on their HQ streams.


I think the problem is/was:
They though "We will let them pay 50$. Probably X people will buy this, so our hardwaresetup should be able to deal with this".
Then they changed their policy to "20$ AND a free stream". Suddenly much much more people than X want to watch - thus the hardware isnt capable of managing all the load. And you just cannot just improve the total bandwidth / hardware on the fly in like 3-4 days. Just not possible.

Their livestream product would've been better if they just didnt offer the freestream & lowered the price.

So I am kinda torn - on one side I am glad they wanted to show their good will. On the other side I am "raging" a little whenever my HQ streams lags and then returns to good quality when the "I have been kicked from the SQ stream and now it tells me limit has been reached" posts start to show up.


The VODs on the other hand should be in a way better quality.

And I am frightened of the finals. Sooo many people will try to watch. I honestly doubt their hardware will be good enough until then
rlagksquf
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
September 10 2010 01:01 GMT
#1733
sick of seeing ppl whining about $20 fee

yea if you don't like what Gretech is doing don't watch it
esla_sol
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States756 Posts
September 10 2010 01:08 GMT
#1734
spend 20$:

watch all the games
have lots of happy time with tasteless and artosis
never fret about staying up late
hours and hours of entertainment

sounds good to me
Cuddly
Profile Joined November 2008
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 01:11:24
September 10 2010 01:11 GMT
#1735
Ahaha GOM is the most professional organization ever.
Apache
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
September 10 2010 02:09 GMT
#1736
On September 10 2010 09:45 Zocat wrote:
[I think the problem is/was:
They though "We will let them pay 50$. Probably X people will buy this, so our hardwaresetup should be able to deal with this".
Then they changed their policy to "20$ AND a free stream". Suddenly much much more people than X want to watch - thus the hardware isnt capable of managing all the load. And you just cannot just improve the total bandwidth / hardware on the fly in like 3-4 days. Just not possible.


Honestly, why can't they?

They're serving the stream via CDNetworks's servers at a datacenter in the California Bay Area (think San Francisco area, although the datacenter is South). CDNetworks is one of the biggest CDNs in the world, and is a SK company IIRC which is probably why they're using it. They already have the infrastructure and hardware in place. GOM just needs more servers fielding the stream. On day 1 they had 12~ up; on day 2 or 3 I saw 15. They could easily add more (of course, it would cost them more, but that's that).
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
September 10 2010 04:38 GMT
#1737
Just saw the artosis games. They were painful. What the hell was he doing? Unusual... wierd play from the protoss countered by even wierder play by artosis. (Banelings?) wataf.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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