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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 09 2010 22:16 GMT
#1701
I agree with the sentiment about community backlash against posting of bootleg VODs of GSL. And I don't care about its illegality. At its core, it's a dick thing to do to a company that is trying to cater to the worldwide audience by having an English commentary stream.

If you don't think $20 per season is worth it, don't pay for it and don't expect to watch it. GOM will understand that message very clearly.
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TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
September 09 2010 22:17 GMT
#1702
PLEASE HELP, I paid 20$ and all GOMTv send me were a receipt and a pop-up thanking me for my "donation".
And it seems that you can't even create a thread in their useless forum... omfg I'm already starting to regret my choice...

What am I now supposed to do to access VOD and premium live ?
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 22:19 GMT
#1703
you need to l2gom. works for everyone else, I suggest try reading the website closely.
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
September 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#1704
On September 10 2010 01:01 samhuan wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is there anyone who knows where I can watch game2 and 3 of Artosis?


http://sc2.plu.cn/

Game 2

Game 3


Nobody should be forced to pay for some low quality sc2 vods, if the other tournament organizers will see that the gom guys succeed with that, we all have to pay for every future event.

Thanks for the links, Glad i could watch all of Artosis's games.
:o
leetchaos
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 22:33:04
September 09 2010 22:27 GMT
#1705
On September 10 2010 07:16 TanGeng wrote:
I agree with the sentiment about community backlash against posting of bootleg VODs of GSL. And I don't care about its illegality. At its core, it's a dick thing to do to a company that is trying to cater to the worldwide audience by having an English commentary stream.

If you don't think $20 per season is worth it, don't pay for it and don't expect to watch it. GOM will understand that message very clearly.


Sadly if they offer shitty quality (low resolution VOD's, no dedicated observer for english cast) people will do what it takes to get the best quality available (korean vod's dubbed with english cast).
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
September 09 2010 22:29 GMT
#1706
Can we stop with all the relative cost arguments? They're useless as anyone can use any other purchasable thing to make their point. Someone yelled at another poster for comparing it to HBO while others are comparing it to CDs and movies. Just stop it, it doesn't get us anywhere. Let the product speak for its own price.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
September 09 2010 22:38 GMT
#1707
On September 10 2010 07:16 TanGeng wrote:
I agree with the sentiment about community backlash against posting of bootleg VODs of GSL. And I don't care about its illegality. At its core, it's a dick thing to do to a company that is trying to cater to the worldwide audience by having an English commentary stream.

If you don't think $20 per season is worth it, don't pay for it and don't expect to watch it. GOM will understand that message very clearly.


I guess you're right, maybe after a few months they'll lower the price or make sure the VODs are HQ. Or maybe they'll be satisfied with their audience as it is and won't change anything.

I think it's fair enough to settle with the live streams, just hope they don't shut those down if their $20 policy doesn't work as expected.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:03:51
September 09 2010 22:59 GMT
#1708
On September 10 2010 07:16 TanGeng wrote:
I agree with the sentiment about community backlash against posting of bootleg VODs of GSL. And I don't care about its illegality. At its core, it's a dick thing to do to a company that is trying to cater to the worldwide audience by having an English commentary stream.

If you don't think $20 per season is worth it, don't pay for it and don't expect to watch it. GOM will understand that message very clearly.


You mean the company that at first wanted to give it for 50$, then 20$ for low quality.

Yeah right. I can afford it no problem, but I won't because I pay things that I think are worth it. 10$ i would have paid or 20$ for better quality, replays and maybe more than a month, some behind the scene or shit. In its state no way... and I don't care about them not having foreigners money I would not be surprised that with Korean TV audience, peripheral sells, increase of general audience to the channel, and foreigners tickets they should really get enoug money to make some profit now or in an early tournament.

One might argue though that when you see how their marketing team proposed a 50$ ticket... they might be completly stupid and they won't make any profit in the end because of too much expenses. But I don't care, this is not a charity, I won't give them 20$ for a product that is not worth it.

Meanwhile I watch Korean version, plagued with chinese advertising... therefore increasing some chinese company revenue for a korean event. Could have been for gretech.

P.S. : and for english commentary, really from what I have seen Tastosis are funny and somewhat entertaining but I'm not learning anything and some comments are rather clueless or just obvious. Maybe if it had jp + d9 quality i would have craved to have them but right now they need to step up.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
bellyfrog
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand72 Posts
September 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#1709
On September 09 2010 21:31 starcraft2yp wrote:


Updated brackets and vods from youtube


Are any of those youtube VODs from the ro64? I haven't been able to keep up with the livestream since NZ internet is so terribad it lags to high heaven. But from what I have read I didn't see any of these matches in the ro64.
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
September 09 2010 23:06 GMT
#1710
On September 10 2010 08:03 bellyfrog wrote:
Are any of those youtube VODs from the ro64? I haven't been able to keep up with the livestream since NZ internet is so terribad it lags to high heaven. But from what I have read I didn't see any of these matches in the ro64.


They are all from the ro64. The page is setup with two ro32's, which can be easy to miss if you don't scroll all the way down.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:14:17
September 09 2010 23:13 GMT
#1711
They need numbers to give to potential international sponsors, yet they limit the number of viewers for the LQ stream (or so I've heard) and require payment for the HQ stream. This seems pretty backwards to me. Shouldn't they have good and reliable free streams first to get the numbers and then get the sponsors?
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 23:14 GMT
#1712
I swear, we are going to have daily gsl threads for awhile and I have a feeling that they are gonna be thread capped with people crying about the price and value. it got old days ago. either jump aboard or gtfo w/o the bitching please.
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
September 09 2010 23:20 GMT
#1713
On September 10 2010 07:17 TeWy wrote:
PLEASE HELP, I paid 20$ and all GOMTv send me were a receipt and a pop-up thanking me for my "donation".
And it seems that you can't even create a thread in their useless forum... omfg I'm already starting to regret my choice...

What am I now supposed to do to access VOD and premium live ?



Go to "LEAGUE", at the top. find Starcraft 2
After you go there, there should be a section called "Schedule" with all games and the day they were played

Regarding value, It might not be worth 20$ to some people, but definitely worth $20 to others. We should all just agree that we don't know each others' utility curve to the penny.

I paid for the season, not sure if I have to pay for the remaining 2 tournaments of the year, but I don't regret my decision for a second. VOD quality is fine. It's not HD but still better than many streams, and the quality of play I've seen so far seem better to me than MLG/IEM.



leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
September 09 2010 23:28 GMT
#1714
On September 10 2010 08:14 viraltouch wrote:
I swear, we are going to have daily gsl threads for awhile and I have a feeling that they are gonna be thread capped with people crying about the price and value. it got old days ago. either jump aboard or gtfo w/o the bitching please.

if posting the links to vods with korean commentary and skillful observing offends the people who paid $20, then so be it.

allow us to jump on board in the way that we want to and can, and "gtfo w/o the bitching please"
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:34:16
September 09 2010 23:33 GMT
#1715
On September 10 2010 07:48 fantomex wrote:
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Sir, you just won a Internet ^^

I honestly support GOMTV in charging money from the start. Better to do it early and let people pirate if they want to, then to build a community on free bandwidth and loans, then when they decide to charge, everyone protests and you can't win no matter what you do. Most of the people playing and watching SC2 are 20+ (for now?), with jobs and incomes. Hopefully they can get enough subscribers to make it a viable business. If not, better they find out sooner then later and shut it down.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 23:34 GMT
#1716
your 4 posts on this thread shown below. yea you are threadcrapping gtfo
#1
I wouldn't pay more than 2 dollars to watch these (frankly poor quality) vods of people playing starcraft. I already pay for internet, and have to sit through the advertisements.
20? hahahahaha. for a month? wow..
I wish we would boycott them, but apparently some people think that is a good deal or something. Here's to paying in the future.
btw these korean vods have much better observers. I prefer them to watching tasteless be a "charismatic" child.

#2
Game 2 of tester vs zenith
http://sc2.plu.cn/vod/gsl2010/1401.html
with better observing, and the koreans casting for nostalgia

#3
check my post.
and I agree. first they'd need a quality product for me to consider paying them 20 dollars. and then I still wouldn't pay for it. and I have a job*

#4
That's not the vod they're charging money for. Some of us don't care about hearing people speak English. We never did for the original BW vods either.
Take it up with the people who uploaded the videos on youku. It's not TL's responsibility.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:47:49
September 09 2010 23:45 GMT
#1717
I have the same position on this as on all other pirating: you either get the free content or the moral high ground, never both.
If you don't like what Gretech does, don't watch. If you do watch, don't pretend that because you don't like Gretech's policies it's ok. You don't deserve to pirate, if you do do it somewhere else; no one's going to chase you.
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:47:43
September 09 2010 23:46 GMT
#1718
I'm not exactly off-topic. There's not much else to discuss. 75% of the people can't even watch the games, as the only time they are free is at 4 in the morning.

I'm sure plenty of people would invite a discussion about the game, but frankly, the games we saw were rather uninteresting (other than the amateur production behind them, which is amazing considering the prize pool and they expect people to pay for the service!)

Who pirated anything?
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 09 2010 23:49 GMT
#1719
you are missing the point, nature of your posts all consists of crying and whining of some sort. stop being such a nag and a buzzkill, geez. you can't watch the games, others can. and they can discuss it on this thread. complaining about price, service, quality, CRYING IN GENERAL should be moderated imo because its been discussed in detail for the first few days. I just don't want people to keep bitching about it when finals are around.
more direct approach would be bitching at gomtv.net forum. they can actually respond. TLers can't.
leve15
Profile Joined August 2010
United States301 Posts
September 09 2010 23:52 GMT
#1720
everything's gonna be okay man, don't cry.
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