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On September 09 2010 23:57 CTStalker wrote:
i do agree that it seems like tasteless could use a little brushing up on the game overall. artosis seems much more familiar with sc2 in comparison.
Its just the caster tools hes not familiar with... im pretty sure he played alot of sc2 himself so i wouldnt know why hes not familiar with the actual game...
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On September 10 2010 02:46 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 23:57 CTStalker wrote:
i do agree that it seems like tasteless could use a little brushing up on the game overall. artosis seems much more familiar with sc2 in comparison.
Its just the caster tools hes not familiar with... im pretty sure he played alot of sc2 himself so i wouldnt know why hes not familiar with the actual game...
I hurts to say but it seems Husky has a better understanding of the caster tools
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On September 10 2010 02:22 SRY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 01:12 CubEdIn wrote:On September 10 2010 01:04 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 00:58 SavX wrote:
lol @ not paying $20 for 30+ hours of entertainment lol @ thinking that $20 is worth 30+ hours of TV entertainment. note that most internet streaming services give you much, much more bang for your buck, for example every sport stream gives you quality athletes (bonus) more coverage (bonus) no commercials (bonus) and lasts for the entire year, instead of a (very) limited time. This. Also, I can find similar VODs of most of the SAME PLAYERS, if not better, for free (see Star 2gether). Now, again, I'm not saying they shouldn't charge for their service, but not like this. Pay your 20 bux, watch all the vods, support esports. Theres no ads on the stream and the quality is quite nice. Its the 1st GSL, the goal is to show it can be big, once it does and gets more sponsors they can actually worry about providing bonus coverage. Its not about hey am I getting the best bang for my buck with this 20$, its hey im helping SC2 succeed and expand while getting something out of it.
Vote with your dollar, stop selling your opinions short, as far as this "contribute to esports" dont give me that jack, i contribute enough to esports not to throw my money at conglomerates without some sort of thought process.
If you think this is helping sc2 succeed, then im sorry that you cannot see the forest through the trees.
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On September 10 2010 02:57 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 02:22 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 01:12 CubEdIn wrote:On September 10 2010 01:04 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 00:58 SavX wrote:
lol @ not paying $20 for 30+ hours of entertainment lol @ thinking that $20 is worth 30+ hours of TV entertainment. note that most internet streaming services give you much, much more bang for your buck, for example every sport stream gives you quality athletes (bonus) more coverage (bonus) no commercials (bonus) and lasts for the entire year, instead of a (very) limited time. This. Also, I can find similar VODs of most of the SAME PLAYERS, if not better, for free (see Star 2gether). Now, again, I'm not saying they shouldn't charge for their service, but not like this. Pay your 20 bux, watch all the vods, support esports. Theres no ads on the stream and the quality is quite nice. Its the 1st GSL, the goal is to show it can be big, once it does and gets more sponsors they can actually worry about providing bonus coverage. Its not about hey am I getting the best bang for my buck with this 20$, its hey im helping SC2 succeed and expand while getting something out of it. Vote with your dollar, stop selling your opinions short, as far as this "contribute to esports" dont give me that jack, i contribute enough to esports not to throw my money at conglomerates without some sort of thought process. If you think this is helping sc2 succeed, then im sorry that you cannot see the forest through the trees.
So how exactly do you contribute? Posting on teamliquid and watching random player streams?
You think any sport would be big without any money involved or atleast a good initial cash injection.
Check your totem man.
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VOD quality still shit on day 5.
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Sorry but after hearing about the VOD quality for premium members there's no way I'm paying $20. Does anyone know where the games with English commentary have been uploaded? Or are only the Korean commentaries available right now.
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are people expecting 1080p for vod quality or something? Or do I have some magical service that make my vods more than fine?
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Very frustrating to see T dominate P and then lose because of lack of ghosts.
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Fuck yeah IntoTheRainbow! Please bring about a SC2 micro revolution.
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On September 10 2010 03:09 fantomex wrote:
VOD quality still shit on day 5.
I cant even get the Vods to load :/
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On September 10 2010 03:21 SRY wrote:
are people expecting 1080p for vod quality or something? Or do I have some magical service that make my vods more than fine?
I paid the $20 and am pretty happy with how the HQ stream is now, but the vods appear to be equivalent to the low quality stream. I'd really like to see the vods be a lot higher resolution. I'm watching the vods from the videos section on GOMtv.net, not sure if you are looking at them from somewhere else.
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is there any way to watch the tester series without paying the $20 for the VODs? A little confused how this works and would love to see some Tester PvT action!
Thanks in advance
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ok so I'm just curious if anyone else is having problems watching the videos from lastnights stream? I click play and it just loads continously.. I bought the season ticket so I know its not that. Any help?
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On September 10 2010 03:08 SRY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 02:57 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 02:22 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 01:12 CubEdIn wrote:On September 10 2010 01:04 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 00:58 SavX wrote:
lol @ not paying $20 for 30+ hours of entertainment lol @ thinking that $20 is worth 30+ hours of TV entertainment. note that most internet streaming services give you much, much more bang for your buck, for example every sport stream gives you quality athletes (bonus) more coverage (bonus) no commercials (bonus) and lasts for the entire year, instead of a (very) limited time. This. Also, I can find similar VODs of most of the SAME PLAYERS, if not better, for free (see Star 2gether). Now, again, I'm not saying they shouldn't charge for their service, but not like this. Pay your 20 bux, watch all the vods, support esports. Theres no ads on the stream and the quality is quite nice. Its the 1st GSL, the goal is to show it can be big, once it does and gets more sponsors they can actually worry about providing bonus coverage. Its not about hey am I getting the best bang for my buck with this 20$, its hey im helping SC2 succeed and expand while getting something out of it. Vote with your dollar, stop selling your opinions short, as far as this "contribute to esports" dont give me that jack, i contribute enough to esports not to throw my money at conglomerates without some sort of thought process. If you think this is helping sc2 succeed, then im sorry that you cannot see the forest through the trees. So how exactly do you contribute? Posting on teamliquid and watching random player streams? You think any sport would be big without any money involved or atleast a good initial cash injection. Check your totem man.
Most sports survive as grassroots for a very long time before they are taken into the mainstream media, even so they are usually propelled there by stuper stars within the community, rather than the money injection from an audience base. As far as my contributions, well, I run a sc2 team, help run the top amateur korean wc3 team, as well as administrate 2 wc3 leagues, and helped found another which I only stepped down from position recently and before that i actively competed in Canadian 1.6 competitions. So if you want to try to downplay me as your typical TL poster, go ahead, but i can assure you i have contributed my fair share to esports that you cannot guilt me into paying 20$ to two companies i dont care to see succeed.
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On September 10 2010 03:58 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 03:08 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 02:57 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 02:22 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 01:12 CubEdIn wrote:On September 10 2010 01:04 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 00:58 SavX wrote:
lol @ not paying $20 for 30+ hours of entertainment lol @ thinking that $20 is worth 30+ hours of TV entertainment. note that most internet streaming services give you much, much more bang for your buck, for example every sport stream gives you quality athletes (bonus) more coverage (bonus) no commercials (bonus) and lasts for the entire year, instead of a (very) limited time. This. Also, I can find similar VODs of most of the SAME PLAYERS, if not better, for free (see Star 2gether). Now, again, I'm not saying they shouldn't charge for their service, but not like this. Pay your 20 bux, watch all the vods, support esports. Theres no ads on the stream and the quality is quite nice. Its the 1st GSL, the goal is to show it can be big, once it does and gets more sponsors they can actually worry about providing bonus coverage. Its not about hey am I getting the best bang for my buck with this 20$, its hey im helping SC2 succeed and expand while getting something out of it. Vote with your dollar, stop selling your opinions short, as far as this "contribute to esports" dont give me that jack, i contribute enough to esports not to throw my money at conglomerates without some sort of thought process. If you think this is helping sc2 succeed, then im sorry that you cannot see the forest through the trees. So how exactly do you contribute? Posting on teamliquid and watching random player streams? You think any sport would be big without any money involved or atleast a good initial cash injection. Check your totem man. Most sports survive as grassroots for a very long time before they are taken into the mainstream media, even so they are usually propelled there by stuper stars within the community, rather than the money injection from an audience base. As far as my contributions, well, I run a sc2 team, help run the top amateur korean wc3 team, as well as administrate 2 wc3 leagues, and helped found another which I only stepped down from position recently and before that i actively competed in Canadian 1.6 competitions. So if you want to try to downplay me as your typical TL poster, go ahead, but i can assure you i have contributed my fair share to esports that you cannot guilt me into paying 20$ to two companies i dont care to see succeed.
Wow thats actually pretty pro, respect. Can't really bash you.
Though. I think my statement still holds true for the usual person, as contributing something is better than nothing.
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On September 10 2010 03:58 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 03:08 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 02:57 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 02:22 SRY wrote:On September 10 2010 01:12 CubEdIn wrote:On September 10 2010 01:04 Holcan wrote:On September 10 2010 00:58 SavX wrote:
lol @ not paying $20 for 30+ hours of entertainment lol @ thinking that $20 is worth 30+ hours of TV entertainment. note that most internet streaming services give you much, much more bang for your buck, for example every sport stream gives you quality athletes (bonus) more coverage (bonus) no commercials (bonus) and lasts for the entire year, instead of a (very) limited time. This. Also, I can find similar VODs of most of the SAME PLAYERS, if not better, for free (see Star 2gether). Now, again, I'm not saying they shouldn't charge for their service, but not like this. Pay your 20 bux, watch all the vods, support esports. Theres no ads on the stream and the quality is quite nice. Its the 1st GSL, the goal is to show it can be big, once it does and gets more sponsors they can actually worry about providing bonus coverage. Its not about hey am I getting the best bang for my buck with this 20$, its hey im helping SC2 succeed and expand while getting something out of it. Vote with your dollar, stop selling your opinions short, as far as this "contribute to esports" dont give me that jack, i contribute enough to esports not to throw my money at conglomerates without some sort of thought process. If you think this is helping sc2 succeed, then im sorry that you cannot see the forest through the trees. So how exactly do you contribute? Posting on teamliquid and watching random player streams? You think any sport would be big without any money involved or atleast a good initial cash injection. Check your totem man. Most sports survive as grassroots for a very long time before they are taken into the mainstream media, even so they are usually propelled there by stuper stars within the community, rather than the money injection from an audience base. As far as my contributions, well, I run a sc2 team, help run the top amateur korean wc3 team, as well as administrate 2 wc3 leagues, and helped found another which I only stepped down from position recently and before that i actively competed in Canadian 1.6 competitions. So if you want to try to downplay me as your typical TL poster, go ahead, but i can assure you i have contributed my fair share to esports that you cannot guilt me into paying 20$ to two companies i dont care to see succeed. This is actually a really good post :O 100% correct in saying that things survive as grassroots for a long time.
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doens't really work with SC2 example since GOM jumpstarted sc2 scene in korea by offering huge prizes. this was purely done by injecting cash, and sc1 players are moving onto sc2 supposely. so it is working, you are just wrong.
im sorry, but having your own sc2 team is nice, but anyone can have a team. I'm thinking of starting a team with my roommate myself, not. hosting competitions is towards the right direction tho. but its still a different game. from what I've heard you haven't done much for sc2 community at all.
$20 bucks is not that much, and if you want to see the games then pay for them. if you are watching illegal vod streams then you are hurting the scene.
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On September 10 2010 03:50 Surrealz wrote:
is there any way to watch the tester series without paying the $20 for the VODs? A little confused how this works and would love to see some Tester PvT action!
Thanks in advance
Not legally at least. It works in the sense that they freely provide you with the first set of each match on their site. If you would like to see that last 1/2 sets you need to buy either a ticket for this season (20$ for about 1month) or a daily VOD ticket just to watch the VODs for the day (2$ I believe, check on gomtv.net).
Illegally the VODs may be available (I haven't bothered to check). But I wouldn't urge people to seek out illegal VODs as we should show GOM that the foreign scene supports them (at least if they do something about their English streaming servers). If there is too little support to make it profitable to hire Tasteless/Artosis+Servers they will probably just do with broadcasting to Koreans.
At current prices we pay about 6.67-10cents per set (for VOD + HQ streaming, assuming 20 days of games in a season, 5 games a day of 2-3 sets*). To me this is a reasonable price compared to for instance going to a movie, or renting a movie.
* I realize these figures are not exactly correct, but since I don't remember the exact tournament structure on the top of my head I just make rough estimates based on the number of sets in Ro64.
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All these arguments over paying $20 for an entire month of games are ridiculous. If you can afford it, great. If not, sorry, go get a job. Lets see what can u get for $20... A case of somewhat nice beer.. 1 and a half CDs. A nice meal out. 1 lapdance at a strip club. 1 DVD. A haircut..
Or you can have an entire fucking month worth of awesome games.
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