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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 01 2010 22:37 GMT
#901
i dont mind they charge for the stream. but the current pricing model is just a big fat joke.

they can't be serious with different fees for vods and live and also monthly fee of total 50 bucks. and that wont even let you see the vods after the month has passed. lol
Midj
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 03:48:15
September 01 2010 22:39 GMT
#902
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
After sleeping on it I think the worst thing is how they think they can treat us. If it costs a fucking penny I'm not going to pay it. I'll support them by watching their ads but that is it. They sprung this on us and then flat out lied about being in dire financial straits with the Kpop event of the year booked and exclusive SC2 rights from Blizzard still warm in their portfolio. This is not the way to court an audience, it's trying to strongarm money away from people without much, just like they're doing to Kespa.

I see right through the bastards. I can't believe that they would even try this shit...

EDIT: I also woke up to find this in my inbox
Show nested quote +
edited ou


Nothing particularly new except the same things he did post on the forum. It seems like this fellow is very responsive, so if you have specific queries you might send him an email.

EDIT2: If they are actually in the red and need to make a certain amount from this there are so many better ways to do it than gouging foreigners. A 50 cents per replay download from US and Korea could make more money. A 2 dollar pass from US and KOR would make more. Making more from advertisers would probably make more. Cutting costs would increase profits, meaning cut one of the kpop acts or something. Even if everything they are saying is true it still is a slap in the face to foreigners.


The honesty is refreshing. However this also says that OGN has been banned from broadcasting the GSL. So no freebies for the koreans?
I enjoy watching more than playing.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 01 2010 22:41 GMT
#903
The choice left to us was to either not broadcast at all outside Korea or charge them.


this is just a huge pile of BS

there would have been another option: not to provide english streaming but NOT BLOCK IPs FROM OUTSIDE; if providing a service in the US is too expensive - fair enough; but actively preventing people from accessing the korean source adds a whole new dimension to this
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 01 2010 22:41 GMT
#904
there will be alternatives people
savior did nothing wrong
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
September 01 2010 22:41 GMT
#905
I don't think they understand that most of the people wanting to watch it simply do not have the resources to do so. Sure some refuse to pay that much, but I bet the majority simply does not have a way to pay that much. If the prices were lowered in most people price range, they would make so much more money!
Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
September 01 2010 22:42 GMT
#906
Solution: We each pitch in 1 dollar and someone with ownage internet hosts it on JTV, Ustream, Livestream, etc. I don't think they will be cracking down on this too hard..sad that we would have to resort to something like that though..
Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
September 01 2010 22:44 GMT
#907
I think GOM's reasoning is sound, and in fact I support their decision to charge for this event fully. I think charging $30 for VODS is overkill, and should be combo'd w/ the live stream for $30 total. But I don't think that $20 for the live stream is outlandish at all
Gumbeez
Profile Joined July 2010
United States9 Posts
September 01 2010 22:45 GMT
#908
This is so LOL.

I seriously and truly hope that not a single person pays for this. ( Very far fetched hope, considering how stupid the general gaming society is and would shell out the money for this)

This is just sad.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
September 01 2010 22:46 GMT
#909
I mean why cant blizzard provide some servers on US??? Its not like Gom has to do all on their own, blizz could lets some servers atleast for this season to get thing runing and let gom get money so they can do it next season...
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 03:48:24
September 01 2010 22:47 GMT
#910
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
After sleeping on it I think the worst thing is how they think they can treat us. If it costs a fucking penny I'm not going to pay it. I'll support them by watching their ads but that is it. They sprung this on us and then flat out lied about being in dire financial straits with the Kpop event of the year booked and exclusive SC2 rights from Blizzard still warm in their portfolio. This is not the way to court an audience, it's trying to strongarm money away from people without much, just like they're doing to Kespa.

I see right through the bastards. I can't believe that they would even try this shit...

EDIT: I also woke up to find this in my inbox
Show nested quote +
edited out


Nothing particularly new except the same things he did post on the forum. It seems like this fellow is very responsive, so if you have specific queries you might send him an email.

EDIT2: If they are actually in the red and need to make a certain amount from this there are so many better ways to do it than gouging foreigners. A 50 cents per replay download from US and Korea could make more money. A 2 dollar pass from US and KOR would make more. Making more from advertisers would probably make more. Cutting costs would increase profits, meaning cut one of the kpop acts or something. Even if everything they are saying is true it still is a slap in the face to foreigners.
...maybe a less ambitious broadcasting schedule, maybe cutting back on the prize pool for future tournaments, maybe selling broadcasting rights for the tournament to MBC...

If that email is real that helps explain alot. I wish they just say shit like that in there orginal post as being blunt helps understand the situation alot more. I guess they don't want to look weak, or whatever. Also plz you or a mod edit that guys name out. I think its pretty clear he did not want that geting out in the public.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Clipped
Profile Joined August 2010
France122 Posts
September 01 2010 22:48 GMT
#911
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
...
What about Korean Gomtv site? All IP from outside Korea will be blocked.
...

Surely there are Koreans outside Korea using Gom. I guess we'll see it's only a few days.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
September 01 2010 22:48 GMT
#912
On September 02 2010 07:47 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
After sleeping on it I think the worst thing is how they think they can treat us. If it costs a fucking penny I'm not going to pay it. I'll support them by watching their ads but that is it. They sprung this on us and then flat out lied about being in dire financial straits with the Kpop event of the year booked and exclusive SC2 rights from Blizzard still warm in their portfolio. This is not the way to court an audience, it's trying to strongarm money away from people without much, just like they're doing to Kespa.

I see right through the bastards. I can't believe that they would even try this shit...

EDIT: I also woke up to find this in my inbox
Hi,

I'm glad to finaly recieve an email. I was not allowed to write the reason we are doing this form some reason. However for this email I will tell you honestly why such decision was made.

First of all many of you seem to think that there is no reason for you to pay when there are alternatives. Let me tell you, there won;t be any alternatives. All sites that have been streaming SC2 such as OGN or MBC have been banned from braodcasting GSL. What if someone puts them on utube or on any other source? They will be found and they too will be banned. What about Korean Gomtv site? All IP from outside Korea will be blocked.

I have reported your reaction rowards the policy and the decision makers are aware of it. Everyone including me thinks it would be much more profitable in the long run if we broadcast the streams without charge, at least for this season.

One thing that many foreigners, or even Koreans are not well aware of is that Gomtv hardly has enough reesources to broadcast it even within Korea. We are relatively new in the market and conventional gaming channel are hogging all the sponsors. Most sponsors think there s no need to sponsor SC2 when SC1 is doing just fine. Also our balance sheet has been on negative side for very long time. We almost thought of giving up the whole e-sports thing because KeSPA and other channels have been giving us very hard time until Blizzard signed exclusive contract with us.

We have 2 more seasons to run just this year and yet we are underfunded and understaffed. The expense to host a server in US and providing English stream was much higher than we had anticipated. Probably why conventional channels never tried to expand beyond Korea. We desperately need money if we are to improve oversea service at this stage, and gaining sponsors is easier said than done.

The choice left to us was to either not broadcast at all outside Korea or charge them. Charging 20$ for a season is not a choice we take willingly, but limiting GSL to only Koreans seems even less attractive.

Some of these informations, I was not allowed to mention on the post at TL. I trust you with this information because you have made a polite request despite your frustration and anger.

I personally feel very sorry to fans overseas about how thing turned out, but I do not mean to give up and I will do my best to have things improved for future GSL.

Yours sincerely


Nothing particularly new except the same things he did post on the forum. It seems like this fellow is very responsive, so if you have specific queries you might send him an email.

EDIT2: If they are actually in the red and need to make a certain amount from this there are so many better ways to do it than gouging foreigners. A 50 cents per replay download from US and Korea could make more money. A 2 dollar pass from US and KOR would make more. Making more from advertisers would probably make more. Cutting costs would increase profits, meaning cut one of the kpop acts or something. Even if everything they are saying is true it still is a slap in the face to foreigners.
...maybe a less ambitious broadcasting schedule, maybe cutting back on the prize pool for future tournaments, maybe selling broadcasting rights for the tournament to MBC...

If that email is real that helps explain alot. I wish they just say shit like that in there orginal post as being blunt helps understand the situation alot more. I guess they don't want to look weak, or whatever. Also plz you or a mod edit that guys name out. I think its pretty clear he did not want that geting out in the public.

If he asks to have his name removed I will remove it. I don't see what is wrong with it and I told him I would be posting the email in the response I sent him. Maybe I told him at too short of notice, but there's no problem with that right?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#913
Wow I must have been living under a rock because I thought that Blizzard was putting money into this event's organization. They can afford hundreds of thousands of dollars in prize pool but they can't afford internet broadcasting? Sorry this situation is too much for me to understand.
o choro é livre
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 03:48:35
September 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#914
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
After sleeping on it I think the worst thing is how they think they can treat us. If it costs a fucking penny I'm not going to pay it. I'll support them by watching their ads but that is it. They sprung this on us and then flat out lied about being in dire financial straits with the Kpop event of the year booked and exclusive SC2 rights from Blizzard still warm in their portfolio. This is not the way to court an audience, it's trying to strongarm money away from people without much, just like they're doing to Kespa.

I see right through the bastards. I can't believe that they would even try this shit...

EDIT: I also woke up to find this in my inbox
Show nested quote +
edited out


Nothing particularly new except the same things he did post on the forum. It seems like this fellow is very responsive, so if you have specific queries you might send him an email.

EDIT2: If they are actually in the red and need to make a certain amount from this there are so many better ways to do it than gouging foreigners. A 50 cents per replay download from US and Korea could make more money. A 2 dollar pass from US and KOR would make more. Making more from advertisers would probably make more. Cutting costs would increase profits, meaning cut one of the kpop acts or something. Even if everything they are saying is true it still is a slap in the face to foreigners.
...maybe a less ambitious broadcasting schedule, maybe cutting back on the prize pool for future tournaments, maybe selling broadcasting rights for the tournament to MBC...


The first paragraph sounds more like a threat than anything. And like I said before, if they were really so far in the red already, then by expanding blindly like this only shows them to be either very greedy or very stupid. Or both (baby's first monopoly and all). I hope they will be able to clean up their mess, cause I highly doubt the community will be sympathetic enough to do it for them.
What this
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
September 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#915
remove his name just incase its basically the only feedback weve had and he might not give anymore if your making all his info public along with a name
Saekar
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany28 Posts
September 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#916
+ Show Spoiler +
Some of these informations, I was not allowed to mention on the post at TL. I trust you with this information because you have made a polite request despite your frustration and anger.


I think he might have a problem with this mail + his name on TL.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
September 01 2010 22:52 GMT
#917
Look at the poll on the TL homepage.

85% of the people WILL NOT PAY for your matches. Have fun running yourselves into the ground Gretech...
Got that.
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 07:24:35
September 01 2010 22:53 GMT
#918
Edit: Quote removed by request of original poster.

Yeah, it just seems to me like they mismanaged their funds and have decided to take it out on the foreigners. If the cost of running a server in America is the issue, why would they not allow people to restream the Korean stream? As far as I know, it would cost them nothing, other than any potential lost funds they're trying to squeeze out of us. The more I look at this email, the more convinced I am that they just want to squeeze all of the money out of us that they can. I don't particularly care for financing GOM's poor decision making. They could have pretty easily cut some money from other parts of their budget (like the gigantic prize pool) in order to provide access for foreigners. Instead, they chose to disrespect us by treating us as just an easy source of capital rather than a potential market for the future.

I also still don't understand the price point. It seems like such a high price will earn them less money than they would get if they just lowered the price. The more I look at the whole thing, the more it looks like GOM is being run by completely clueless people. Case in point:

Edit: Quote removed by request of original poster.
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koOma
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway462 Posts
September 01 2010 22:54 GMT
#919
I might get the VOD ticket, but I'll need some clarification on quality, how many matches are casted, how long the season lasts etc.
He wears a mask so when he dogs his face / Each and every race could absorb the bass /// ST_Life
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
September 01 2010 22:56 GMT
#920
wtf??? 50 bucks??? per friggin MONTH? I pay 20 bucks to esl for a whole year of premium shit and these clowns wanna charge me 600 (that is six hundered in words) $ a year just to get SC2 esports entertainment when I had all that jazz in BW for free?? Honestly who thought this was a good idea? I hope to god this whole GSL shit fails hard and all those greedy bastards go bankcrupt asap.
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