• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:41
CEST 16:41
KST 23:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2036 users

[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 204

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 202 203 204 205 206 432 Next
Smackzilla
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States539 Posts
April 26 2013 18:48 GMT
#4061
Re: camera keys...

I think the core changes the game a bit with camera keys. Layered cameras are simply much more efficient to use than with Standard's function key bindings. Furthermore, developing the muscle memory for it is pretty easy too. I've been using The Core since March 12th, and I can't imagine not having the base cams for sending SCVs back to mineral lines, jumping to ramps, etc.

In my experience, drag and side scrolling are slower than cameras and learning cameras are easy to pick up with The Core.
You see a mousetrap. I see free cheese and a f&%*ing challenge - Scroobius Pip
ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 18:57:04
April 26 2013 18:53 GMT
#4062
For the left-handed layouts, W-E-R-G are the home keys.


For a passionate Dota player, qwer being the home keys was self-evident to me.
Now a lot of stuff begins to make sense for me

I'm not going to change THAT habbit though. Nevertheless, beside this inconvenience, I love TheCore so far. Thank you guys
beer
JDub
Profile Joined December 2010
United States976 Posts
April 26 2013 18:57 GMT
#4063
On April 27 2013 03:53 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Thank you JDub.

For a passionate Dota player, considering qwer as the home keys seemed to be self-evident.
Now a lot of stuff begins to make sense for me

Haha yeah I bet. QWER definitely could make sense, but Jak has gone with WERG for a variety of reasons (I'm sure he could explain much better than I could). Good luck learning TheCore!
Shompol
Profile Joined March 2013
United States12 Posts
April 26 2013 19:37 GMT
#4064
@Jose
I am using right Windows key for "next subgroup". Unfortunately SC does not allow using Windows key, so I had to map it as Tab using remapkeys.exe from Windows Resource Kit Tools. You can download it for free from Microsoft
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#4065
Concerning WERG and JIOP homekeys,

Remember that if your thumb is not on shift, then you are doing it wrong! If you are using WERG then your right hand should be on the keyboard and your left on the mouse. That being said:

The pinky is shorter than the rest of the fingers and more easily rests on a row lower than the other fingers. This allows all of the fingers to have enough of a curl to reach a row above and a row below with minimal motion in the wrist. (we actually set it up so the pink never has to reach upwards as it is the worst finger to do so.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 20:12:44
April 26 2013 20:10 GMT
#4066
--- Nuked ---
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 26 2013 20:13 GMT
#4067
@Hot_Ice
You keep these features to yourself? Or will you share them with us?
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
furyofSkanks
Profile Joined March 2012
32 Posts
April 26 2013 21:05 GMT
#4068
Ya it's cool that everything is so close together that you don't need perfect hand positioning / technique and it's still pretty effective. To be completely honest I think I switch back and forth between jiop when I'm macroing and jkl; when I'm using my army I just don't really think about it. Which is not ideal I guess with the new layout. Just for the record... I've tried changing my resting position between jiop and j l whatever and = is pretty close to ]. Neither feels better or worse to me if you are using the correct hand position.
Pyro_Dub
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1 Post
April 26 2013 21:46 GMT
#4069
Thank you so much for this! Having a set of key bindings made for large hands is awesome. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find any documentation on the large hand keys. Am i just missing it or is it only being created for the medium size?
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 21:53:40
April 26 2013 21:52 GMT
#4070
I am literally working on this right now

It's going to take a while to make it presentable, but you can check out the happenings in TheCore Archive if you're brave enough. I will not explain how it all works in there, that's where we keep all the moving parts that will eventually create all the documentation you'll see on the full release. Still getting it all worked out.

EDIT: just in case I didn't use the word all enough:
all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Hancho
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany89 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:19:31
April 26 2013 22:17 GMT
#4071
i just want to point out that the Visual Aides Fingers pics are not outdated (as far as i know (EDIT: except the version number))
you can see which keys are the home keys for the different layouts and which key should be pressed by which finger.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 26 2013 22:27 GMT
#4072
I was told that they were outdated... I don't really have time to go through them all right now, so I'll leave the label up to be safe for now.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 22:44:17
April 26 2013 22:41 GMT
#4073
Why is chat on tab? : ?

I just quit from a game because I couldn't say glhf to someone. I don't want to look like a bmer. :<
Borskey
Profile Joined February 2012
160 Posts
April 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#4074
On April 27 2013 07:41 Antylamon wrote:
Why is chat on tab? : ?

I just quit from a game because I couldn't say glhf to someone. I don't want to look like a bmer. :<


So some other function can be on Enter
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 26 2013 23:32 GMT
#4075
Chat was supposed to be on tab a long time ago, that was my error. It is on tab so that game functions can be on enter. Chat function usually uses both hands so putting it on a far away key isn't as detrimental as putting a game key far away.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
April 26 2013 23:48 GMT
#4076
I assumed that, but I figured I'd ask anyway since there's nothing on Enter.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 26 2013 23:51 GMT
#4077
@Anty
Enter for xRM should be a camera rotate or select all army. Not 100% sure which off the top of my head.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
sixilli
Profile Joined April 2013
51 Posts
April 27 2013 00:13 GMT
#4078
Anyone else feel like the control group keys are too sporadic? It seems like they aren't in any particular order.
Ricoic
Profile Joined May 2012
39 Posts
April 27 2013 00:22 GMT
#4079
@sixilli

I thought that at the start but over time I realized it was nice how they are set up. I use the 890 for my army control and the OP[ for buildings queens and upgrades. There is little chance of screwing up and selecting all hatcheries and hotkeying them over your army or something that could lose a fight and even the match.
"Take what you can, Give nothing back!"
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 27 2013 00:53 GMT
#4080
The CG keys are (as stated in the 0.7 video) ranked in order of speed to press. This way you can assign the CGs most important to you from left to right (or top to bottom in the hotkeys section).
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Prev 1 202 203 204 205 206 432 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#87
IntoTheiNu 1250
WardiTV1227
OGKoka 537
Rex146
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 1003
OGKoka 537
Rex 146
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10051
Bisu 3162
Horang2 1960
Jaedong 1474
Mini 603
EffOrt 593
ggaemo 477
Soulkey 464
BeSt 368
Light 343
[ Show more ]
firebathero 281
Hyuk 261
Snow 176
Rush 172
Pusan 123
sorry 116
Mong 107
Hyun 99
hero 81
Sharp 74
Zeus 68
scan(afreeca) 60
[sc1f]eonzerg 49
Aegong 49
Backho 43
ToSsGirL 39
Barracks 37
Sexy 34
910 28
Movie 26
soO 20
GoRush 15
Sacsri 13
Rock 11
zelot 10
Terrorterran 10
Noble 6
Dota 2
syndereN413
Counter-Strike
zeus850
byalli510
allub287
edward68
Other Games
singsing2808
B2W.Neo1452
hiko842
Lowko380
Hui .343
crisheroes274
Pyrionflax235
monkeys_forever119
ArmadaUGS59
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1606
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 838
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 5
• Michael_bg 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5921
Other Games
• WagamamaTV472
• Shiphtur118
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
1h 19m
Replay Cast
9h 19m
The PondCast
19h 19m
Kung Fu Cup
20h 19m
GSL
1d 18h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.