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Crankenstein
Australia150 Posts
I really like your building placement. Especially on Metalopolis and Xel Naga Caverns. Extending the ramp with your rax and CC, very cool  I also like how you make the turrets at an expo and then move the CC there. So many people do it in the reverse order and get rolled... In some of the later games you transitioned into mass raven towards the end. Do you think it is worth getting a single raven earlier so that you can save tumour scans for extra mules? | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
On December 23 2010 05:21 ReachTheSky wrote: So i've been thinking about this build. Are there any replays vs actual good zergs? I'm talking 2800+. No offense but anything below just isn't 'good'. The zergs i play utilize infestor turtle remax. Which seems like it would rape the hell out of this strat. 2 spines will shut down ur opening harass easily. I feel like this would only work vs newbs or people that haven't seen this before. Seems like a one trick pony tbh. can we get some real replays please? by the time he has infestors out you will have tanks. pure MM(+M) versus infestors is just impossible. There is a replay against a ~3000 level zerg (EGStrifeCro). You usually can't put down two spines before the 5 marine push on most maps. In fact, marines will typically arrive BEFORe spine crawlers are even half way finished. | ||
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Conrose
437 Posts
On December 23 2010 06:12 Griffith` wrote: by the time he has infestors out you will have tanks. pure MM(+M) versus infestors is just impossible. There is a replay against a ~3000 level zerg (EGStrifeCro). You usually can't put down two spines before the 5 marine push on most maps. In fact, marines will typically arrive BEFORe spine crawlers are even half way finished. Yeah, I've been finding that against 2 Rax Openings, its safer to get out 10 Lings as soon as I scout it and move them out of the way on the other side of the Natural ramp while further produced lings stick around the nat in order to circumvent stutter stepping. | ||
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Conrose
437 Posts
The funniest thing I've done with them though was Mules repairing a 30 Thor Ball + supporting Mothership that would get focused as soon as the Thors in the back sniped the enemy observers. | ||
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pwadoc
271 Posts
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Bixs
Denmark66 Posts
On December 24 2010 06:38 pwadoc wrote: This build seems like it relies on something that I would consider a bug. You should be reporting it and getting it fixed, not constructing a BO around it. Sigh.. the TL forums | ||
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pwadoc
271 Posts
If you don't think this use of mules is broken, I don't know what to say. This is like the ultralisk bug when they killed everything repairing a structure. I don't really understand the rush to abuse broken mechanics. | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
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Crankenstein
Australia150 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 23 2010 05:21 ReachTheSky wrote: So i've been thinking about this build. Are there any replays vs actual good zergs? I'm talking 2800+. No offense but anything below just isn't 'good'. The zergs i play utilize infestor turtle remax. Which seems like it would rape the hell out of this strat. 2 spines will shut down ur opening harass easily. I feel like this would only work vs newbs or people that haven't seen this before. Seems like a one trick pony tbh. can we get some real replays please? if you look at the replays strifecro is 3k. Dunno if theirs others but was used against him and beat him. | ||
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morimacil
France921 Posts
Great find. Now zerg just needs to find a way to triple expand in the face of a 2rax build, and saturate everything within 3 minutes of the expansions going down, while still producing enough defenses to hold off aggression from 2 barracks, and then everyone can go into the midgame on an even footing. Ah, how I wish zerg also had the option to "just go and kill him" when faced with something like that. Why does this work vs zerg, and not other races? Other race can actually punish someone for investing over a thousand minerals into something else than army or defenses. | ||
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ChineseWife
United States373 Posts
edit: colossus >>>>>>>>>>>>> X marines | ||
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itsben
435 Posts
On December 24 2010 09:44 onbaton wrote: scouted some guy trying to do this to me so i just killed him edit: colossus >>>>>>>>>>>>> X marines Maybe because its a TvZ build. | ||
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ChineseWife
United States373 Posts
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Griffith`
714 Posts
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Conrose
437 Posts
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Griffith`
714 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Griffith_4OC_(vs._Zerg) This thread will still serve as the main place for discussions. | ||
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grannock
United States81 Posts
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Griffith`
714 Posts
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dslyecix
Canada37 Posts
On December 27 2010 07:01 grannock wrote: This build is easily crushed by a decent player. Someone tried this against me for the first time the other day and it was a joke. Basically take 3-4 base and tech up and when they push out with their large army you already have broodlords. Player I beat was ~2600 with over 1500 terran wins. Just because you beat someone once doesn't mean the build is flawed. I don't have experience using it yet, but without posting the replay, nobody here can be certain your opponent used it right, kept pressure up properly etc. | ||
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