EPTultralisks COMPLETELY WRECK BUILDINGS, so the whole 1 at a time wouldnt matter so much, sicne you only need like 5 to own the crap out of some buildings.
idk though, i play T and always crap sensor tower mid game
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fulmetljaket
482 Posts
ultralisks COMPLETELY WRECK BUILDINGS, so the whole 1 at a time wouldnt matter so much, sicne you only need like 5 to own the crap out of some buildings. idk though, i play T and always crap sensor tower mid game | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 21 2010 05:58 avilo wrote: lol I made a thread about this and zergs overreacting to roach nerf but it was closed due to being blasphemous or something against what other "top players" are saying. /facepalms but yes, nydus worms are very, very good, and zergs refuse to use them STILL. You can build many of them and spawn worms simultaneously. It is sick. Eh they cost a good chunk of gas and are only really good when the other player isn't... I have found much better luck with overlord drops. | ||
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vlaric
United States412 Posts
On May 20 2010 19:53 7mk wrote: I dont know man, seems to me like the top asian Z players use overlord drop to much greater effect and I'm sure that getting a nydus done vs a really good player is just soo hard, if they play right you wont ever be able to get a nydus in their base. I mean as long as they spot their whole base even scvs can kill a nydus easily, cant say the same for drops. Agreed. I find drops much more effective as well. Drop tech is cheaper, too, and by the time it's finished you usually have a bunch of overlords to use straight away. Additionally, against better players who have good building spread and minimap sense Nydus gets shut down extremely quickly. Even if a drop gets spotted, it can unleash a significant amount of units faster than a Nydus worm can, dealing damage more quickly. Additionally, one can retreat with overlords and save them for later use, whereas once the worm dies you've lost 100/100. | ||
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Jadix
United States134 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Koffiegast
Netherlands346 Posts
at the start. I thought it was great, and shows there are 2 things that are in favor of nydus: 1. you can teleport / e.g. no overlords required to fly over defense lines, 2. you can do this all instantly. | ||
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Epsilon111
United States5 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On May 20 2010 17:44 Xinliben wrote: I'm in gold and I almost never see nydus worms used against me (I am T) to the point where if a zerg snuck one in my base late game, it would probably win the game for him as I would not be prepared at all. You know, thinking about it...I'm the exact same way. I'm gonna be all paranoid now watching for Nydus worms.  | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
On May 20 2010 19:26 a176 wrote: I thought everyone used nydus  Even Terran and Protoss? | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
On June 06 2010 18:28 Koffiegast wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LvHjCRKIOo at the start. I thought it was great, and shows there are 2 things that are in favor of nydus: 1. you can teleport / e.g. no overlords required to fly over defense lines, 2. you can do this all instantly. Wow! Great, great use of the Nydus NETWORK!  Will definitely have to try that even though I guess I suck too much to multitask it properly That number of Nydus Worms costs a lot but they also took out the Protoss so really think Zergs so at least try to do something similar more often | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
Basically a free win if they power too hard, and you're usually able to do major damage (kill an expo/main) if it doesnt win you the game outright. | ||
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MindRush
Romania916 Posts
On May 20 2010 18:12 BlackHat wrote: Ugh please don't encourage people to use nydus. I have lost a few games because I don't quite have vision over my whole main (Lost temple is the main offender here) and they put a nydus in the back and roll my base with hydras. And by that, of course I mean they are hella good and Z should keep an eye out for opportunities to ruin the other player's day with them. man, you SHOULD have vision over your whole main ........ if you lost to nydus worm it's your fault .......... this is just like protoss makes a pylon in your base and warps in alot of zealots, stalkers, templars and you don't see this and lose. Or terran establishing a tank/bunker/turret position in your main without you noticing BTW, when you hear the worm screaming, you must check for the nydus worm. And start looking for it in your main ...... it's the 1st place you want to be sure of | ||
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Melt
Switzerland281 Posts
You can drop on different places at the same time and it's faster than the nydus. also, the surprise effect often is bigger. Nevertheless, nydus worms aren't useless, but it should be more used like the nydus from BW. use it in long macro games to link your bases together or to get reinforcements into the battle more quickly. You can secure an island expansion with them too. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
I'd probably use nydus a lot more if cracklings have the same kind of destructive power as they did in sc1, but since they don't, an one-time investment in ovie drop will do pretty much the exact same thing. It isn't like it is too hard to secure distant expansions if you spread creep properly, and the one-unit-at-a-time way nydus unloads makes it hard to work with in base defense. Though to be honest, when I was playing T, I did take a ling-bling nydus that hurt a ton, but that was less about how nydus is good as it is how I screwed up and shouldn't have ended up in a situation like that anyway. The most success I have had with nydus is really in 2v2, with more distant expos, keeping a few defensive units in nydus to deal with small harass has been fairly useful. | ||
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Fruscainte
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Bubbadub
United States156 Posts
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
Take Lost Temple for example. You spawn at 6 and you opponent at 12. You want to take the island expansion just right of you. Will he still hear a Nydus Worm being popped? Even though it's not used offensively against him and from far away? Would like to do that more often but kinda defeats the purpose a bit if he panics and looks around his base wihtout seeing a Nydus. Then he might be suspicious of island expos and such instead revealing your otherwise extra and hidden base. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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