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Alegzandur
Philippines52 Posts
On June 21 2010 12:11 TheAngelofDeath wrote: Just saying...but I find overlord drops much more effective than nydus. Less of an investment, and harder to stop IMO. The real clincher on why I use Nydus instead is really the ability to load your units back from where they came and pop them out in your base, this quick two-way transportation is just so useful imo. | ||
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mind1337
France107 Posts
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Oddguy
United States10 Posts
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Turbo.Tactics
Germany675 Posts
I dont know if someone else has said this (didnt read all comments) , but i think if youre on a map with a small base ramp , you could use nydus worm as a last minute defense to keep enemies at bay. Say you just macrod up a ton of units in your main base , and your enemy is quickly advancing to your base , you could , in theory , pop up a nydus to block the ramp and then pop your army out. It may not be super effective , but it beats them getting up your ramp and screwing up your workers when you could've blocked them. All of this is in Theory of course (im not a very experienced player). (Also , sorry to post in an old-ish thread) Welcome to TL Mr. Oddguy Sir! Nice idea but i guess this isn't really viable because the worm dies so terribly fast... I mean REALLY fast! Even against workers >.< | ||
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Oddguy
United States10 Posts
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Rakgoska
United States20 Posts
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quirk
Estonia12 Posts
It seems to me that everyone who uses nydus worms use it to dry to bust the main/spawn it in the enemy base. Have people used nydus worms like protos players use proxy pylons? Instead of using a nydus worm as a surprise tactic you could spawn it somewhere near your attack front and have reinforces join quicker to the attack(or add more units to your forces before you attack). I know it's more expensive than warp tech + pylons, but haven't really seen this used in games(Maybe just a bad idea). Mainly it could be useful if you aren't very proactive with spreading creep or the maps are too large to spread creep very quickly. And you could also spread creep closer to the enemy base easier from the nydus worm. | ||
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Morphs
Netherlands645 Posts
Furthermore, an OL drop tends to be sacrifical for the units. If I drop 2-3 OLs of hydras in an enemy base, it's usually a matter of winning the game there or doing so much damage to his eco/base that the sacrifice is worth the loss of 8-12 hydras. Now suppose you save just TWO hydras using a NW, you already paid for the worm. And in most cases you can get away with a lot more units.. Only the cost is so high... while a bad comparison, warpgate tech is just 50/50 and 100 minerals per pylon. Maybe a bonus for casting the worm in creep would be nice. Like reduced cost (50/50) or faster building speed. This would also allow for great synergy with the OL, which can drop creep in the enemy base and provide some cover by dropping some hydras to defend the worm. What the video in this topic shows nicely is that you don't have to build worms in the opponents mineral line per se. I really like the worm south of his expo.. I'll be trying out some more worm strats now.. | ||
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
On July 05 2010 11:55 Oddguy wrote: I dont know if someone else has said this (didnt read all comments) , but i think if youre on a map with a small base ramp , you could use nydus worm as a last minute defense to keep enemies at bay. Say you just macrod up a ton of units in your main base , and your enemy is quickly advancing to your base , you could , in theory , pop up a nydus to block the ramp and then pop your army out. It may not be super effective , but it beats them getting up your ramp and screwing up your workers when you could've blocked them. All of this is in Theory of course (im not a very experienced player). (Also , sorry to post in an old-ish thread) 400 gas for a 200hp wall? no thanks. I think i'll just sit in the corner and cry that protoss get that tier 1 and for free. | ||
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Bob300
United States505 Posts
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Ko1tz
France493 Posts
I'm not sure if this works in higher lvls but sure as hell it works against gold/silver players who make the mistake of not putting turrets/supply depots/pylons around their base. (sry for my not so good english btw! :D) | ||
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WillKill
United States8 Posts
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On August 17 2010 02:28 WillKill wrote: Worms are so great. If your opponent gets in a position where he cant kill it then there's no hope for him a worm at 50% completetion can be killed by 5 workers b4 it pops/poops out too much units. give me one example of where the opponenent can't get to your worm and kill it b4 it drops meaning ful amount of units. Hell, i've been baited into nydus'ing. I played some guy back in Plat, he scouted my nydus, and insted of killing it, he just positioned his army to kill my units as they pop out. I lost the worm + a few hydra roaches. That made me stop using them offensively. They're great in multiplayer though. | ||
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Jadix
United States134 Posts
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/57566-1v1-terran-zerg-steppes-of-war http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays?filter-hidden-top-player-name=Seeders Nydus&filter-map= | ||
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