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[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation

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TL.net ESPORTS

4 Posts

November 12 2025 02:54 GMT

Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation

All the votes have been tallied, and now it's time to announce the official maps for the 2025 Fall/Winter ladder rotation.

We thank everyone for their participation in TLMC voting, and we look forward to bringing you good news about the future of TLMC going forward.

1v1 Map Pool

Nine new 1v1 maps will be added to the ladder map pool, as public voting and progamer voting favored a full rotation. The nine maps were decided through the TLMC public vote (3 maps), progamer vote (3 maps), and tournament organizer vote (3 maps).

See TLMC #21 Finalists

Top 3 community voted maps from TLMC #21 finalists

Mothership
Celestial Enclave
10000 Feet

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#1: Mothership
#2: Celestial Enclave
#3: 10000 Feet
#4: Talisman
#5: Winter Madness
#6: Missing You Today
#7: Andromeda
#8: Magnetic North
#9: Old Republic
#10: White Rabbit
#11: Satellite Years
#12: Throne of the Dunes
#13: Ruby Rock
#14: Taito Citadel
#15: Tourmaline
#16: Risen Memory

Top 3 pro-player voted maps from TLMC #21 finalists (top 40 of Aligulac.com invited to vote)

Ruby Rock
White Rabbit
Winter Madness

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#1: Ruby Rock
#2: White Rabbit
#3: Winter Madness
#4: Taito Citadel
#5: Tourmaline
#6: Old Republic
Tie #7: Missing You Today
Tie #7: Satellite Years
#9: Throne of the Dunes
#10: Magnetic North
#11: Risen Memory
#12: 10000 Feet
#13: Andromeda
#14: Celestial Enclave
#15: Mothership
#16: Talisman

Top 3 tournament organizer voted maps from TLMC #21 finalists

~~10000 Feet~~ (overlap with community)
~~Mothership~~ (overlap with community)
Old Republic
~~Celestial Enclave~~ (overlap with community)
Taito Citadel
~~Ruby Rock~~ (overlap with progamers)
Tourmaline

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#1: 10000 Feet
#2: Mothership
#3: Old Republic
#4: Celestial Enclave
#5: Taito Citadel
#6: Ruby Rock
#7: Tourmaline
Tie #8: Andromeda
Tie #8: Magnetic North
Tie #8:White Rabbit
#11: Throne of the Dunes
#12: Missing You Today
Tie #13: Satellite Years
Tie #13: Talisman
Tie #13: Winter Madness
#16: Risen Memory

2v2 Map Pool

All team mode maps will undergo a partial rotation, as the volume of maps submitted does not support a full rotation (ideally, we would hold separate TLMC's for each team mode, but it is not possible due to practical limitations).

See Team TLMC #5 Finalists

Top 2 community voted maps from Team TLMC #5 finalists

Gemgarden
New Bed of Chaos

7 maps from previous map pools or TLMC finalists

Rust Bucket (Team TLMC #5)
Rhoskallian
Rohana
Fields of Death
Yellowjacket
Undercurrent
Reclamation

3v3 Map Pool

Top 2 community voted maps from Team TLMC #5 finalists

Baalpeak
Incognito

7 maps from previous map pools or TLMC finalists

Tacit Sanctity (Team TLMC #5)
Radiator (Team TLMC #5)
Sentinel
Voracity
Sandstorm
White Chamber
Rosebud

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4v4 Map Pool

Top 2 community voted maps from Team TLMC #5 finalists

Netsphere Terminal
Heavenward

7 maps from previous map pools or TLMC finalists

Greenspill (Team TLMC #5)
Morheimen
Tunguska
Floodplain
Riptide
Slowdive
Concord

ejozl

Denmark3481 Posts

November 12 2025 06:57 GMT

What's interesting is how the pro player opinion differs from others. Is that because top 40 is mb toss heavy and these are the toss maps, or?

CicadaSC

United States1867 Posts

November 12 2025 07:50 GMT

On November 12 2025 15:57 ejozl wrote:
What's interesting is how the pro player opinion differs from others. Is that because top 40 is mb toss heavy and these are the toss maps, or?

pros dont like this map pool?

MJG

United Kingdom1401 Posts

November 12 2025 08:12 GMT

Only two maps that I consider instant vetoes, so that's nice.

breaker1328

Canada299 Posts

November 12 2025 08:34 GMT

On November 12 2025 16:50 CicadaSC wrote:

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pros dont like this map pool?

I think they like the map pool, it's just that their vote was the complete opposite of the community vote. I think it's pretty easy to see what the vetos are going to be over the next few months.

[PkF] Wire

France24238 Posts

November 12 2025 14:52 GMT

I wish we'd kept 1 or 2 maps from the previous pool, but it looks rather solid. Can't wait to test them in game.

zelevin

United States312 Posts

November 12 2025 15:02 GMT

SageYeti

4 Posts

November 12 2025 18:28 GMT

Seems like a flawed approach if the pro vote isn't split evenly between the races.

JSchwartz

1 Post

November 12 2025 22:08 GMT

I would need like 10 vetos

Agh

United States1037 Posts

November 13 2025 07:04 GMT

#10

Feel like Taito got glossed over and is pretty underrated. Winter Madness is just a better Abyssal Reef.

White rabbit strains my eyes(when I get zerg mainly) and 10000ft is probably going to get old very fast.

Tried everything out except for Old Republic and Tourmalene so far. In general everything plays better than my initial expectations.

Not sure if anyone genuinely likes LoS blockers on maps but I could do with never seeing them again.

MJG

United Kingdom1401 Posts

November 13 2025 10:18 GMT

#11

I've noticed on several of the new maps that it isn't immediately obvious which terrain is or is not buildable.

Only by attempting to build can you see where unbuildable areas are.

These areas can be traversed by units, so it doesn't make sense for them to be unbuildable.

This was also a problem in the last map pool.

Something for map makers to work on.

Visual clarity is very important.

sidasf

94 Posts

November 14 2025 19:13 GMT

#12

This looks like a great map pool, I think it's much more balanced and enjoyable than the last one.

I would like to echo the sentiment of some players here.

1. (Opinion) Like wire, myself would like to see even a couple maps from the last pool.

2. As Agh says, white rabbit's lighting is very disruptive, it causes eye strain and accessibility issues for myself and some other players.

3. As MJG says, it's a little hard to tell which areas are buildable on a couple maps, particularly when walling off with protoss. Not a huge deal for me but could still be improved.

I'll add one myself-some of the bases such as the natural in tourmaline, the base marker is misaligned.

Not sure if it's possible to fix any of these, but figure I'd post nonetheless.

[PkF] Wire

France24238 Posts

November 14 2025 21:59 GMT

#13

Ouch the lightning is hard on some of those ones (especially White Rabbit indeed, but I find Old Republic and Winter Madness very bright as well). I guess we'll get used to it but it's indeed a bit shiny and could use some toning down.

derkopf

Germany83 Posts

November 16 2025 11:24 GMT

#14

On November 15 2025 06:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Ouch the lightning is hard on some of those ones (especially White Rabbit indeed, but I find Old Republic and Winter Madness very bright as well). I guess we'll get used to it but it's indeed a bit shiny and could use some toning down.

ja you are very right--it is to bright to be frank

MJG

United Kingdom1401 Posts

November 18 2025 08:52 GMT

#15

On November 13 2025 19:18 MJG wrote:
I've noticed on several of the new maps that it isn't immediately obvious which terrain is or is not buildable.

Only by attempting to build can you see where unbuildable areas are.

These areas can be traversed by units, so it doesn't make sense for them to be unbuildable.

This was also a problem in the last map pool.

Something for map makers to work on.

Visual clarity is very important.

I want to add to this that many of the maps are not symmetrical when it comes to where buildings can/cannot be placed.

I enjoy the occasional Cannon rush, for which building placement is very important (obviously), and some of the maps are so poor in terms of symmetry that one spawn is favoured for Cannon rushing over the other.

I know this is a niche concern, but symmetry should be a given.