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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 11 2014 14:22 TotalBiscuit wrote: Wouldn't it be great if 2 ex-Broodwar pros like say.... Ryung and Impact.... played a game on Texas.... and it was cast.... Yeah but nobody here has really the connections to do so  :D | ||
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
On January 11 2014 14:22 TotalBiscuit wrote: Wouldn't it be great if 2 ex-Broodwar pros like say.... Ryung and Impact.... played a game on Texas.... and it was cast.... You... no... What... YES! | ||
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( bush
321 Posts
On January 11 2014 14:32 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah but nobody here has really the connections to do so :DYou realize who is the person you just quoted? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 11 2014 15:16 ( bush wrote: You realize who is the person you just quoted? Yes ofc, i thought that ":D" in the end made that clear, gogo TB you are amazing! | ||
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
On January 11 2014 14:22 TotalBiscuit wrote: Wouldn't it be great if 2 ex-Broodwar pros like say.... Ryung and Impact.... played a game on Texas.... and it was cast.... TB you are the man. I think it's so cool that you would take the time to support a project like this. <3 | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starbow Oh and TB: Make it happen! Please! But have them play a few games first, so they know the in's and out's. Let me know if you need a co-caster  For more maps, I would suggest: - New bloody ridge. - Destination. - Roadrunner (just rename my Star-road-runner to roadrunner). To begin with. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
delivered | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
Also, I am currently working on getting a suggestion up for a ranking system. I just need some skills / help first | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Time for a Xiphias+TB dual cast, Hider vs Impact! Starbow elite vs progamer!  | ||
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Balosaar
United States35 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
You and the starbow team are fucking incredible :D My god I hope this game replaced what we've currently got | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
Cool game. Anyway, Dark Swarm was quite hard to see on that map. May need a small colour change I guess. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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GoldforGolden
China102 Posts
I don't really see that many interesting dynamic between units, lurker vs bio for example is not nearly as interesting as banelings vs bio imo. then the lurkers just sit there and take the irradiation damage most of the battles are still deathball vs deathball with less micro to see. can someone point out where are the cool micro from the video, so I can understand more and appreciate them? | ||
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
On January 11 2014 19:47 GoldforGolden wrote: I guess the mod is probably not for everyone, I didn't really find the match that exciting. I don't really see that many interesting dynamic between units, lurker vs bio for example is not nearly as interesting as banelings vs bio imo. then the lurkers just sit there and take the irradiation damage most of the battles are still deathball vs deathball with less micro to see. can someone point out where are the cool micro from the video, so I can understand more and appreciate them? Yeh that game wasn't any especial. A HOTS TvZ at pro level is often times more exciting. But remember, it is typical for games to not look so god the first time they are played by new players. There was lots of potential for both players to play a more multitask-based style. For instance, dropships are stronger than in BW due to speedboost, Ryung might not have been aware of that, and thus opted for a "deathball" style. Planetary can also be abused to a much larger extent than what we saw in the last game. The intention is that you "force" the action with a couple of lings --> retreat, and then you can harass it freely afterwards. So I think we could have seen a lot more lingrunbys from Impact had he been more experienced. Anyway, it is easiest for Starbow to shine in the vs Protoss matchups, because P in Sc2 is just very poorly designed, and I think it is a lot more fun to play in Sbow. HOTS TvZ, while very much the same (little variation) is still pretty awesome in what it does, and thus, I think at best Starbow (when finished) can create more options in the game (such as the ability to use both mech and bio) relative to HOTS. Anyway, Starbow also isn't finished. Your right about Irradiate vs Lurkers. Its not that exciting since it always kills the Lurkers. Instead, Irradiate is mostly exciting when it is used on a clump of units and forces the opponent to split their units away from the irradiated one to avoid splash damage. I think in a not so distant future, it is the intention to make Irridiate not kill units (but leave them w/ 1 HP) to incentivize more of the splash-damage micro rather than single-target vs Lurkers. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 11 2014 19:47 GoldforGolden wrote: I guess the mod is probably not for everyone, I didn't really find the match that exciting. I don't really see that many interesting dynamic between units, lurker vs bio for example is not nearly as interesting as banelings vs bio imo. then the lurkers just sit there and take the irradiation damage most of the battles are still deathball vs deathball with less micro to see. can someone point out where are the cool micro from the video, so I can understand more and appreciate them? Well, both players are clearly rusty, so this was to be expected. Obviously the quality of gameplay will improve as they put more time into the mod. As for the micro, look for splitting bio vs lurkers, using surrounds and flanks to kill them and minimize losses. Normally zerg will want to spread lurkers out to avoid splash damage from irradiate. Another big part is the science vessel/scourge dance, juking vessels to bait scourges into marines, cloning(http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Cloning) scourges to ensure that they hit the maximum number of vessels. Landing Plague on vessels and using dark swarm to break up bio attacks is also crucial, the Defiler is probably the single most important zerg unit. I will say the animations for both these spells were pretty hard to see, maybe they could be made more distinct on the screen. If you are looking for a game where the gameplay truly differentiates itself from SC2, check out the TvP of Dirtybag vs Ronsom, or something to that effect. Will try to find vod. | ||
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GameHeart
286 Posts
Anyways let me know. I can be reached on skype as rtschutter and by email at TeamGameHeart@gmail.com If you are planning to convert Starbow into an extension mod and are having any issues with it please let me know. I have been working with the extension mod system for a bit now and I have developed a few systems in GameHeart to help me convert it into an extension mod that might help you as well. This includes a 'map detection' system that could allow you to make specific changes to specific maps to make them more appropriate for Starbow even in extension mod form. Great work! | ||
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enord
France258 Posts
should really capitalize on it update op with it make a tutorial video out of it by remaking the audio for such a purpose  long live brood war | ||
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
So something needs to be done, because otherwise bio +SV's will a-move stomp everything. 3 different types of solutions 1) What about giving Ultralisks splash damage as in Sc2? Besides, making the game more balanced in TvZ, I think it also adds more micro to the game (splitting vs Ultralisks can be quite fun). One concern is ofc how it will look vs protoss - Not sure about that, but from the games I played vs Ultralisks (as toss), it seemd that Dragoons were quite good vs. them. 2) Nerf to bio units. Maybe Maurauder HP too high, medi healing too high (?). 3) This is a bit "crazy": Make the baneling the counter to clumped up armored units instead of light units. This is actually my favourute suggestion, and could be awesome for the game, but........ it is extremely unintuitive . But let's look at the advantages of this suggestion; - Help differentiate the baneling from the Lurker. - Force the bio player to split up his units --> This creates synergy w/ Ultralisks and Speedlings (as they can get better surface area) --> Overall buff to zerg vs bio. - Make the Siege Tank more important vs zerg in the late game (unless the terran player has insane splits). Though vs Siege Tanks, I guess we might see a lot of Baneling-bombs which might be pretty exciting (but also imbalanced?). - Could make it usefull vs protoss. Watching Banelings vs Dragoons could be quite fun? | ||
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