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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 15 2013 07:54 GMT
#521
TSM has just really stagnated since they were NA champs in S2. Chaox/Xpecial used to be considered best NA bot lane by far, but it's like they haven't improved at all while all the other bot laners have improved drastically. Same deal with Dyrus. Regi is as inconsistent as ever, being a complete beast one game and being a total nub in the next. TOO's probably improved the most out of them all, but his playstyle means that if the rest of TSM is sucking, he's simply not going to have an impact.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 07:59:27
February 15 2013 07:59 GMT
#522
Voyboy would not be easily crushed by international top laners. I think it would depend on the jungler
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:17:20
February 15 2013 10:02 GMT
#523
Oh my god watching the vods right now, Qtpie 1v3 TSm and actually gettingthe kill on Regi, glorious Draven power.

And yeah the game snowballed off of the mid doublekill+doublebuff for scarra, Regi going aggro once again and staying in Diana melee range to "bait".

I often see alot of people saying Reginald is there playmaker and if he does well, TSM does well. Well surprise to me that's just the nature of the Mid position, imo the positiion with the most carry potential. If he falls behind because he goes aggressive once again, the other mid will crush his entire team in return.

Last time after his "Pax Trashtalk" he uploaded a video saying he crushed scarra 1v1, I wonder if he does it again this time admitting Scarra crushed him 1v1 :D probably not but noway he woulda survived that even without mao/xin intervention.

and holy shit the 2 Vi games were terrible :D Riot pls don't nerf her
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 11:46:24
February 15 2013 11:45 GMT
#524
nooooooo but its ok we can go 26-2.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
February 15 2013 12:25 GMT
#525
Damn St Valentin I could not watch anything, something out of the ordinary worth watching ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 13:05 GMT
#526
On February 15 2013 21:25 WhiteDog wrote:
Damn St Valentin I could not watch anything, something out of the ordinary worth watching ?


There's a poll section in OP you know.
Last two matches are possibly worth watching.
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Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
February 15 2013 13:49 GMT
#527
So after watching OddOne and ClakeyD I have to say, jesus the jungle snowballs hard now.

I mean, I hadn't really thought about it, but the removal of ramping gold/exp for camps you hadn't cleared really hurts if you fall behind (die) and aren't able to be clearing camps. They both had a death relatively early, and then it looked like they just fed for the rest of the game.

They were trying to make plays to get back into the game and get caught up, but with wards being as relevant as they are it ended up putting them further behind.

This also explains why Xin/J4/etc are really popular right now. Play a strong duelist, get ahead of the other jungler, then just make them irrelevant by being stronger during every gank/counter gank, or go them mess up in their own jungle. Look at how Saint treated Clakey, or Crumbzz treated OddOne.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 13:50 GMT
#528
Alright, so I finally watched the dig v TSM game from Day 1. TSM got FB on KiWi after dying 3v1 np but then Chaox dies. Then a few minutes in mid, Regi straight up dies to scarra with zero intervention. All Crumbzz did was ensure OddOne didn't revenge kill scarra but either way Diana ends up 2-0 with double buffs.

-.-;;
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#529
On February 15 2013 22:49 Lounge wrote:
So after watching OddOne and ClakeyD I have to say, jesus the jungle snowballs hard now.

I mean, I hadn't really thought about it, but the removal of ramping gold/exp for camps you hadn't cleared really hurts if you fall behind (die) and aren't able to be clearing camps. They both had a death relatively early, and then it looked like they just fed for the rest of the game.

They were trying to make plays to get back into the game and get caught up, but with wards being as relevant as they are it ended up putting them further behind.

This also explains why Xin/J4/etc are really popular right now. Play a strong duelist, get ahead of the other jungler, then just make them irrelevant by being stronger during every gank/counter gank, or go them mess up in their own jungle. Look at how Saint treated Clakey, or Crumbzz treated OddOne.


I think part of the problem is they tried too hard to get back. I mean Clakey went to the enemy blue to steal it while being super behind and used his escape to get there. Really stupid play that only works if you're so far ahead. It seems like it's not just the case of jungle snowballing but also junglers not playing from behind properly and just feeding constantly.

Saint played Hec vs col and wasn't really ahead, they actually were struggling a bit but he just kept on farming and waited for chance to get ahead instead of trying to force plays that are far too risky. I just think Clakey is a bad jungler on anything that isn't J4. He showed that in LCS and showed that now again.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 14:47:04
February 15 2013 14:46 GMT
#530
On February 15 2013 22:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Alright, so I finally watched the dig v TSM game from Day 1. TSM got FB on KiWi after dying 3v1 np but then Chaox dies. Then a few minutes in mid, Regi straight up dies to scarra with zero intervention. All Crumbzz did was ensure OddOne didn't revenge kill scarra but either way Diana ends up 2-0 with double buffs.

-.-;;

Yeah, was pretty disappointed by TSM, quite a one sided start. Even if TSM made some pretty interesting move, such as ward dig's blue, taking it after tower, they were just dying in lane and getting outplayed. Regi going in close range without mana and half hp against a diana with her passiv up was just plain bad.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 15:32 GMT
#531
I just want to comment on all the Twitches and Dravens wrecking teams at LCS lately.

Good thing someone predicted this last year.



hue
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
February 15 2013 15:43 GMT
#532
How long did it take to find that post?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 16:03 GMT
#533
Haha, not that long if you use the search function properly.
Search "twitch and draven", localize to just the LoL subforum, looking at my own posts. Took 30 seconds top.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#534
OK! Just read from page 2 to the last page. Time to respond!

On February 15 2013 05:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 05:12 JonGalt wrote:
Gahhhh, matches don't start until 11pm for me. And my phone's dead.

TSM TSM TSM!!


YOU WUSSING OUT ON US GALT?

Edit: I'd cheer for Curse, but they don't need it today.


First: No I wasn't! My phone did though Poor conservation of phone battery. If the sun came out at night I could charge it Or if I had a lunar charging panel AND a solar charging panel. Someone invent this please

On February 15 2013 09:56 Slow Motion wrote:
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On February 15 2013 09:55 FindMeInKenya wrote:
it's k, TSM will win the LCS, right? RIGHT??

26-2 son no probs.


EZPZ Lemon Squeezy.

In all honesty, to make it to mid-season, 20-8 will probably be good enough.

On February 15 2013 10:50 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
This subforum swings really violently with TSM. They have good games and bad games, last week they lost to CLG, "they don't have what it takes anymore" then they win their next games and everyone swings the other way. Now TSM goes 1-1 on the day and people are back to talking about how they just aren't good enough. Very few posts actually make it seem like TSM is a competent team, which they still are, for sure. xD


You sir perfectly embody your name. The wisdom of Ghandi and the courage/bravery of an Eagle. Definitely agree with you.

I also admit that TSM's weakest point is that they are very poor at adapting. Granted I can't watch the LCS, but reading the forums and remembering from S2 - they really need to learn to adapt. And learn to play from behind. I hope them getting beat by draven/singed really gives them a kick start to try and start opening up their champ pool and strategies.

It seems Crumbzz mindgamed them hard. They are too predictable.

(And I blame every TSM loss on Asmodeus)

Oof. That hurt to say all that. Must. Unleash. Fanboyism.

TSM TSM TSM TSM FK IT BAYLIFE TSM TSM TSM TSM.

Phew. Feels better.

On February 15 2013 07:09 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:02 Shiv. wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:01 Treadmill wrote:
Xpecial on both teams apparently.

Please tell me someone screencaptured that, I was too busy falling off my chair.

Oh and for reddit, I don't mind the trashtalk thread, but /r/leagueoflegends has been general discussion 2.0 for a couple of months now.

[image loading]


Someone get this shit to JonGalt.

"Xpecial is so good that he can play on both teams in same time"


Might (definitely) have to edit the Fanclub.

Only reason TSM lost to Dig was because they saw how badly Dig crushed MRN and was worried Dig forgot how to throw. (And because of Asmodeus)

P.S. LB finally NOT banned, and Regi didn't play her. What gives!? Although I have never played a Diana vs LB lane, nor have I seen one. Anyone have any insight as to how it goes? And anyone have any insight as to why Regi didn't pick her? I can't wait to see if he plays her tonight.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
February 15 2013 17:08 GMT
#535
Think LB gets pushed by Diana, and Diana thus has better roam and more threat in general.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 15 2013 17:30 GMT
#536
I asked ClakeyD why he thought the brush he stood in wouldn't be warded, and he said he was sick and going through "withdrawal," I'm assuming from the meds. And that teams normally ward banana brush on blue side and the mid brush on red side so he assumed it wasn't warded. Scarra was also comboing ecco every chance he got so clakey thought he could burn scarra's flash if he ganked at lv3.


Regi is definitely not the weak link in TSM. He's their playmaker. In most games it's hard to pin blame on one person. In the loss vs. Dignitas it was a team wide breakdown.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 15 2013 18:13 GMT
#537
Effffff, games start at 3am for me. Looks like I will play catch up tomorrow!

At least I can read the LR thread live for EU.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
February 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#538
Why so late, watch VoDs me don't want.
are they lost forever?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 15 2013 20:12 GMT
#539
I also admit that TSM's weakest point is that they are very poor at adapting.
Case in point: Jarvan and Xin are unavailable, Oddone ends up picking Maokai as jungler when he had much better options for their comp available.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
February 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#540
The VOD-link points to the european lcs. The correct one is here.
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