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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
February 15 2013 00:56 GMT
#481
On February 14 2013 04:34 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 04:24 GettingIt wrote:
I really hope Dignitas steps their game up, 1-2 for week 1 is really disappointing T_T


Please Dignitas. I don't really see them winning against TSM, but I at least hope they win their other 2 games.


Glad I was wrong :D
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
February 15 2013 00:56 GMT
#482
On February 15 2013 09:51 sinii wrote:
Commentators completely missing that Kiwi drew agro top so Dig could get an uncontested dragon. A death for a drag is a good trade.

Lol, he already pulled two people he didn't have to suicide. Also, if he pops his ghost in time like someone who's actually good he gets away easily. Amateur mistake, no need to defend it.
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
February 15 2013 00:56 GMT
#483
Kiwikid looked so happy the entire game in contrast to all the pissed off looks from TSM on the player cams xD
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
February 15 2013 00:58 GMT
#484
On February 15 2013 09:56 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:51 sinii wrote:
Commentators completely missing that Kiwi drew agro top so Dig could get an uncontested dragon. A death for a drag is a good trade.

Lol, he already pulled two people he didn't have to suicide. Also, if he pops his ghost in time like someone who's actually good he gets away easily. Amateur mistake, no need to defend it.


He tried something because he knew already that the team would come out on top of the overall trade. He could have played it better, but if he somehow got Oddone then it would have been an overwhelming victory.

Point is, it wasn't a bad play as Dig came out on top.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 15 2013 00:58 GMT
#485
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 15 2013 00:59 GMT
#486
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 15 2013 01:00 GMT
#487
On February 15 2013 09:59 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.


Yeah, I always thought TOO was the weakest player on TSM and now the s3 changes have hit him really hard.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 01:03 GMT
#488
Fuck, Crumbzz is inside TSM's head. lololol
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Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
February 15 2013 01:05 GMT
#489
On February 15 2013 10:00 nxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:59 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.


Yeah, I always thought TOO was the weakest player on TSM and now the s3 changes have hit him really hard.

And I think you are wrong on both accounts.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2013 01:07 GMT
#490
On February 15 2013 10:05 Fwmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 10:00 nxk wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:59 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.


Yeah, I always thought TOO was the weakest player on TSM and now the s3 changes have hit him really hard.

And I think you are wrong on both accounts.


If you're going to say someone's opinion is wrong, you better offer something better.
Frankly, I don't think S3 did OddOne any service, if he's not your pick for TSM's weakest link, then who is?
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susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
February 15 2013 01:10 GMT
#491
On February 15 2013 10:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 10:05 Fwmeh wrote:
On February 15 2013 10:00 nxk wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:59 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.


Yeah, I always thought TOO was the weakest player on TSM and now the s3 changes have hit him really hard.

And I think you are wrong on both accounts.


If you're going to say someone's opinion is wrong, you better offer something better.
Frankly, I don't think S3 did OddOne any service, if he's not your pick for TSM's weakest link, then who is?


I cant speak for Fwmeh, but Regi really didn't deliver that game. I don't blame him though, double kill/double buff scarra is no joke. TOO didnt do anything technically wrong there, Crumbz just read him like a book.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 15 2013 01:12 GMT
#492
Xin picked/banned 11 out of 12 NA LCS games so far.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
February 15 2013 01:12 GMT
#493
It just seems like TSM isn't playing "together." if that makes sense. It seems like no one knows what anyone else is doing on the team. There is no cohesion, teamwork, etc. It might be rust, but if they don't get better quick, i don't see TSM being in the Top 4 anymore.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
February 15 2013 01:14 GMT
#494
On February 15 2013 10:00 nxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:59 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:58 nxk wrote:
Seems to me that OddOne can only play support junglers and it's really limiting the team comps that TSM can run. Hopefully he can step it up soon or TSM might drop down to #4 if not lower.

That's exactly what Saint said about OddOne coming into Season 3 but of course everyone dismissed him as a hater.


Yeah, I always thought TOO was the weakest player on TSM and now the s3 changes have hit him really hard.

First of all, Regi is the weakest, this is not even a topic to argue. And I think their bot lane is much more dismal than TOO. Chaox didn't get mf = GG. He was humiliated vs Doublelift, and now Draven 1v3s TSM while Chaox remains essentially useless. He's not a bad player but he's mind is on "what's op, i pick something op!!" and thinks it will just win him the game. Can't say it didn't work out with the MF picks, but unlike Cop who could operate with other ADs as well, Chaox just fails hard. Dying in 3v1 as Ezreal versus a not so good* player as Kiwi...

*okay, Kiwi might be just under too much pressure, I don't know, but after double boots, a fail kill attempt for Lulu and suiciding just because he can't drop turret aggro and can't use ghost in time, he was definetly not good. Yet he managed to "outplay" Chaox who had 2 Flashes.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 15 2013 01:16 GMT
#495

I cant speak for Fwmeh, but Regi really didn't deliver that game. I don't blame him though, double kill/double buff scarra is no joke. TOO didnt do anything technically wrong there, Crumbz just read him like a book.


Well what once Scarra got the double kill, all Regi could do was farm. Diana snowballs hard with an early lead. And that Maokai pick did absolutely nothing since none of the lanes were gankable (apart from mid which backfired)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:17:39
February 15 2013 01:16 GMT
#496
On February 15 2013 10:12 nojitosunrise wrote:
It just seems like TSM isn't playing "together." if that makes sense. It seems like no one knows what anyone else is doing on the team. There is no cohesion, teamwork, etc. It might be rust, but if they don't get better quick, i don't see TSM being in the Top 4 anymore.


I still think they're Top 4, just possibly at the bottom. Even if they're not playing cohesively, they have enough individual talent to blow out laning phase against GGU, MRN, coL, Vul and enter mid/late game with a considerable advantage.

+ Show Spoiler [My take on TSM atm] +
Dyrus >= Xpecial > TheOddOne > Regi >= Chaox
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nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
February 15 2013 01:19 GMT
#497
And how can people say that Regi is the weakest when he's their best playmaker and usually the one who carries the team when they win. When they lose he looks bad because he's under pressure to carry...
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
February 15 2013 01:21 GMT
#498
On February 15 2013 10:19 nxk wrote:
And how can people say that Regi is the weakest when he's their best playmaker and usually the one who carries the team when they win. When they lose he looks bad because he's under pressure to carry...

You cant be just a player who wins already won games. He needs to become a player who can make plays that can convert a lost game to a won one.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
February 15 2013 01:22 GMT
#499
On February 15 2013 10:19 nxk wrote:
And how can people say that Regi is the weakest when he's their best playmaker and usually the one who carries the team when they win. When they lose he looks bad because he's under pressure to carry...

Yeah... umm... no. He carries TSM as much as HotShot carries CLG. (Translation: Never. I'm not saying ever, because they had their shine in the 80s, khm, I mean in the early days.)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 01:27:02
February 15 2013 01:23 GMT
#500
On February 15 2013 10:19 nxk wrote:
And how can people say that Regi is the weakest when he's their best playmaker and usually the one who carries the team when they win. When they lose he looks bad because he's under pressure to carry...


People call Regi weak because he seems to play very linearly. It's purely aggro and if he gets set back significantly like this last game, he has trouble making an impact for his team for the remainder of the game.

As a carry, you need to be able to pull it together and still make plays. Regardless if your team is ahead or behind.

Edit: lolol triple kill post on one quote, gg guys
Edit2: HSGG can still carry with Nid and he's crazy consistent on that champ. Makes sense though because when CLG lets HSGG get Nid, they build a very competent team comp around it. Someone remind me the last time Regi demolished the opposing team and carried TSM to a win?
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