[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

On July 25 2013 06:25 Slusher wrote:


Vayne kinda needs to condemn you into a wall if it's pre-botrk, Ez comes down more or less to skill (ask Midking l0l).

Quinn I'll give you

On July 25 2013 06:30 UniversalSnip wrote:
so we're doing it? we're actually calling them marksmen, despite the fact this category includes shit like teemo?

On July 25 2013 06:14 wei2coolman wrote:
That begs the question; what inherent advantage does this give Corki over current ADC's?

On July 25 2013 06:32 TheYango wrote:

Higher baseline spell damage + synergy with other physical damage dealers while also maintaining mobility and self-sufficiency?

Tristana has similar mobility but has a huge dip in midgame damage due to relying almost purely on autoattack power. Ezreal likewise with current builds is far more item-dependent for damage and requires his Muramana to kick in for his damage to really reach desirable levels. Corki's base damage from spells on the other hand is higher, and therefore his item selection should be tailored to augment his level 9-11 timing where he's strong from the basis of maxing out his spells rather than toward needing to reach item-based peaks like other ADCs.

Other ADCs that have similar spell-based damage generally are hamstrung by lack of mobility and are therefore not as self-sufficient which makes them harder to draft against certain champions.

On July 25 2013 06:30 UniversalSnip wrote:
so we're doing it? we're actually calling them marksmen, despite the fact this category includes shit like teemo?

On July 25 2013 06:36 kainzero wrote:
If you build AD on your AD Carry, you should build Marks on your Marksmen.


To be serious, the marksmen thing is just part of Riot's classification that no one ever used.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions

We certainly use things like assassin, mage, pusher, tank, etc., but not to describe a lane/role for the team. When we talk about the role it's still AD Carry.

In other words, Riot made a big deal out of nothing and now we get more jokes.

On July 25 2013 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Considering Bulwark timings, Corki's spell based damage is pretty damn underwhelming. I could see it being decent on a team with Kayle; and post bulwark removal.

On July 25 2013 06:38 wei2coolman wrote:

Does this mean Zed is a Marksmen then? since he death marks stuff?

On July 25 2013 06:39 Dandel Ion wrote:

what about markswomen?

PC gender equality yo

On July 25 2013 06:38 TheYango wrote:
The other thing to note about Corki in relation to other "spell-based" ADs is that his spells actually have mediocre ratios but high base damage. Phospho Bomb has no AD ratio at all, and Gatling+Missiles have pretty weak ratios in comparison to other ADs' nukes. Their strength is their base damage. A champ with high base damage but mediocre scaling gets mileage out of CDR, which is why I feel Gauntlet, old Elder Lizard, and Cleaver are more appropriate than BT. Corki actually doesn't get more out of buying raw AD than he does buying CDR+AD in combination.


Jungler's don't finish a completed Bulwark by the time your AD is level 9-11.

On July 25 2013 06:45 wei2coolman wrote:

Are you implying Zed is a female?
Akali is a markswomen though; she marks people too.

As far as corki is concerned; that feels like such an investment into mid game with such a narrow timing window in mind; with such a underwhelming late game.

On July 25 2013 06:51 13JackaL wrote:


I think akali is a marksman because while she still may be a woman, she does indeed mark men.

On July 25 2013 06:52 Fusilero wrote:

All the ninjas apply marks so they're all marksmen.

On July 25 2013 06:48 Ketara wrote:


Cleaver seems like a really great item on Corki, I feel like he'd do well as an ADC pick in a heavy AD team comp with stuff like Jayce or Wukong etc. True damage + BC synergy. MF also works there but she's not as mobile I suppose?

Team comps these days are more focused on heavy AP though, the crazy early season 3 days of all AD armor shred comps appear to be over.