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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:22 xes wrote: Tuned in to see HSGG die. Sounds like a normal CLG game to me maybe hotshot getting wrecked with yorick so badly will encourage solo queuer's to stop playing yorick. | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:25 barbsq wrote: maybe hotshot getting wrecked with yorick so badly will encourage solo queuer's to stop playing yorick. rageblade rumble 3stronk wish I tuned in to this earlier | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Zzz is CLG even playing HALF seriously? Rylais on Yorick... | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: when will chauster/doublelift realize their team is too heavy when they change the team name to chauster lift gaming | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: when will chauster/doublelift realize their team is too heavy Chauster carries doublelift, then doublelift carries rest of CLG. jiji's got potential, but sometimes his plays are so questionable. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: when will chauster/doublelift realize their team is too heavy Where do they go? Follow Saint to Curse? Is the Saint problem a HSGG thing? Any other path and they are behind where they are now by a significant margin. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 07 2012 14:11 cLutZ wrote: Where do they go? Follow Saint to Curse? Is the Saint problem a HSGG thing? Any other path and they are behind where they are now by a significant margin. Switch over to CLG.eu imo. Wick'd+Froggen+Chaulift+Snoopeh. That's pretty much a dream team right there. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Pretty crazy how good chau is, he's like a world class player in every role. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
Nobody really pays attention to the korean players it seems, its all: "wow that team is really good", but nobody really gives them much acclaim for individual skill. I remember watching some games and being really impressed with some of their bot lanes though. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Though tbh, bot lane is a wash for me between a couple support/AD players mostly because it's hard to assess them independent of their coordination with each other. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
but if based on individual skill / fanboyism i would probably have like lilballz jungle chauster ad froggen mid lilac top insert support here | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
Oh I forgot lilballz and lilac. Oh well. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
I'll treat botlane combo's as single group, since like yango said, it's hard to differentiate individual skill levels. Botlane:Chau/Lift (though I would like to see a Gosupepper/aphromoo lane, dat poke aggression) Midlane: Froggen (I think everyone has this guy as their mid for dream team, he's just so fucking good). Jungle: St.V, still top tier player, just look at how much Crs as a team has improved since the 3 way trade. I think St. V had huge impact on Crs. Top lane: It's really hard for me to gauge a good top laner. I feel that every tournament the best "top laner" changes, and is fairly inconsistent. But my favorite top laner has got to be WingsofDeathX, I really like the way he thinks about the game. Dyrus would be a solid pick as well, one of the few consistent top laners, rarely loses lane badly, but can also carry team, has pretty big breadth of champions as well. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 07 2012 14:55 Navi wrote: if i would make a dream team out of current league players it would have to be known (or have a good estimation of) how personalities would conflict and who would lead and how the team chemistry would work out. i really liked loci's post earlier, ppl overestimate individual mechanical skill in their estimations of what makes a good player in this extremely team centric game. it would be pretty tough to make a dream team without knowing how these personalities would gel (or only knowing from the limited 2nd hand knowledge most of us observers have). but if based on individual skill / fanboyism i would probably have like lilballz jungle chauster ad froggen mid lilac top insert support here Aw, I love lilac so much. This would mostly be my dream team too except I'd replace Chau with DL and put Chau as support. Chauster's one of my favorite players but he simply doesn't have the mechanics to AD carry with the best imo. He's way better at support because he knows the game so well that his initiates are just sheer gold. But back when he was playing AD carry he would routinely get out CS'd by other top AD players. Them picking up Doublelift and letting Chau coach him into AD carry was the single best decision CLG ever made as Chau > Ele on support and imo DL > Chau on AD carry purely based on mechanical skill. edit: Actually if I had to be completely objective and remove all bias I personally think that Genja/Gosu are strongest AD/support in the world. I really want to see M5 vs CLG at S2 finals. I fully expect CLG to lose but I just want to see how Double/Chau stack up against Genja/Gosu. For pure players I like it'd be Chau/DL over Genja/Gosu though. | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
the "mechanics" that doublelift display (dodging x and y with x movement skill) is impressive and great from an observer's point of view, but good decision making and positioning imo is much more valuable on a carry. most ads these days cannot play fragile ads such as ashe for balls as they rely on re positioning skills more than ever with the new "gotta have a blink on ads" fotm. carries like kog'maw are played usually with comps designed around placing other significant threats or stacking protective presence on their team rather than relying on the kog'maws inherent range and poke ability with his ultimate with good decisionmaking and positioning, which still works but is not optimal by any measure if it takes away from laning ability and early map control. i think chauster would make a better ad in that sense. | ||
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