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[Patch 1.0.0.129: Fizz] General Discussion - Page 25

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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:46:32
November 16 2011 10:42 GMT
#481
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand

I lol'd at you asking if people on TL would watch a stream with Korean commentary. Pretty much was this site for years.

On November 16 2011 16:26 wussleeQ wrote:
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On November 16 2011 16:22 sermokala wrote:
fuck yeah. first game in ranked and I won with cho. 0 deaths 1 kills and 7 assists as a hard tank for the team. had a hard war with lee sin in top I got stupid and didn't harass him with his sheild down.

Still it says I'm unranked with my first win wtf?

you don't get a ranking showed until 10 games in with at least 1250 rating.

1200 is the minimum shown
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 11:25:01
November 16 2011 11:04 GMT
#482
Is it just me or is surge superawesomesauce for Fizz and his W?
Also: my life has gotten so much better since I started following unichan on tumblr. Always post hot Asian chicks never not post hot Asian chicks.

500th Post woooot.
currently rooting for myself.
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
November 16 2011 11:52 GMT
#483
On November 16 2011 19:16 locodoco wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:16 NSANE.hydra wrote:
watched pro BW for at least a year and never understood a single word. you gotta make sure to yell a lot and get really excited though...

i dont yell.....lol


Just yell "EEEE HAAAAAN TIMINNNGGUUUUUUU~~" every time you steal dragon/baron and i'd watch it :p.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 16 2011 11:55 GMT
#484
Didn't Riot say they wanted jungle to be less mandatory? Then they go and buff it?
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
November 16 2011 12:01 GMT
#485
Stonewall hinted (he is in the closed test realm but obviously under NDA) that it´s a bandaid until they rework the jungle. The key difference is that EVERYONE is supposed to be able to be able to take jungle camps.
In that case your powerfull jungle would be countered by the fact that the whole enemy team (and stupid allies) steals your camps, not just their jungler.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
November 16 2011 12:11 GMT
#486
Like I said before, Riot is going to completely fuck up any jungle remake they attempt.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
November 16 2011 12:12 GMT
#487
On November 16 2011 21:01 Unentschieden wrote:
Stonewall hinted (he is in the closed test realm but obviously under NDA) that it´s a bandaid until they rework the jungle. The key difference is that EVERYONE is supposed to be able to be able to take jungle camps.
In that case your powerfull jungle would be countered by the fact that the whole enemy team (and stupid allies) steals your camps, not just their jungler.


If camps are significantly weaker, then they give less exp... which means that they can't just waltz out of the lane and take the camps constantly cause it wouldn't be worth it, especially with wards..

Honestly only way this would work is if we got more of the dota/hon style lanes with a long/short lane, where 1 lane is more exposed to the enemy jungle past the river, where you can quickly take camps etc.. And since this isn't Dota/Hon on purpose, I doubt that's a change thats going to happen. Although man would I love to be able to block camps from spawning with wards :D.

Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
November 16 2011 12:26 GMT
#488
You can leave the lane if you push hard, it´s done constantly when people want to buy. Still there is a reason the jungleremake isn´t in yet...

The change for the jungle isn´t about buff or nerf but a focus away from a shopping list of PvE creeps to punch in order. It´s a big though good change imho and worth the turmoil that inevitably ensues after such a big change.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 16 2011 12:30 GMT
#489
On November 16 2011 21:12 BlueBird. wrote:
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On November 16 2011 21:01 Unentschieden wrote:
Stonewall hinted (he is in the closed test realm but obviously under NDA) that it´s a bandaid until they rework the jungle. The key difference is that EVERYONE is supposed to be able to be able to take jungle camps.
In that case your powerfull jungle would be countered by the fact that the whole enemy team (and stupid allies) steals your camps, not just their jungler.


If camps are significantly weaker, then they give less exp... which means that they can't just waltz out of the lane and take the camps constantly cause it wouldn't be worth it, especially with wards..

Honestly only way this would work is if we got more of the dota/hon style lanes with a long/short lane, where 1 lane is more exposed to the enemy jungle past the river, where you can quickly take camps etc.. And since this isn't Dota/Hon on purpose, I doubt that's a change thats going to happen. Although man would I love to be able to block camps from spawning with wards :D.



I would soooooo love this. So much.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
November 16 2011 12:32 GMT
#490
I think that if they were going to remake the jungle why not do it on another 5v5 summoner's rift like map. I mean the community has always wanted a new map and that way they would at least have an opportunity to test the changes before forcing it on tourneys.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 12:40:53
November 16 2011 12:40 GMT
#491
This patch completly fucks me up oO And Fizz is stupid strong :/ I'm quite at a loss atm.


PS : I realize I was maybe over-talkative on the bear Udyr talk, but I'm at least not the only one to think it's good : http://www.millenium.org/lol/accueil/guides-champions/udyr-esprit-animal-udyr-roi-de-la-jungle-sur-league-of-legends-47962?page=1 ^^
The legend of Darien lives on
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
November 16 2011 12:43 GMT
#492
People that clear camps quickly, and top laners on the purple side will be able to take golems/wraiths quite a bit giving them a small edge.

I like to take golems with shen @ top, only costs me one potion, and its only gonna be easier with this patch.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 16 2011 12:49 GMT
#493
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand

i prefer listening to korean/chinese over english lol
i was watching ur stream with my friend last night and he said we should switch to an EG stream because its in english
i told him to go find a new friend
but yeah korean stream is gud
:)
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 16 2011 12:54 GMT
#494
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand

A lot of us watched BW on hazy quality restreams from people who VPN-ed into Korean Networks. On TL at least, I don't think people would mind. In terns of the wider community, there might be demand since there aren't really any Korean streamers and you'd be unique.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 12:59:00
November 16 2011 12:55 GMT
#495
Trist cleanse surge 24-9 masteries so strong early game i wonder if i can add a shurelyas to my build to make it so that i can chase/escape hmm...
BW -> League -> CSGO
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 16 2011 13:03 GMT
#496
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 16 2011 13:07 GMT
#497
There aren't many "safe" tops for Singed really. Cho and Galio just make it a farm fest, which works out for Singed. A lot of the other champs are really about how good you are at Singed. The hardest part is making it to your catalyst, but once that is done, you're pretty close to unkillable. I haven't tried him with new masteries yet though.

Or you could be like me: always push, never not push, feed ~4 kills in lane, and then carry anyway. The Soniv Strat is tried and true by quite a few members of the community ;P
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 13:20:44
November 16 2011 13:20 GMT
#498
On November 16 2011 22:03 epoc wrote:
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?


singed actually takes a dump on garen because his initation is completely countered by the silence interupt delay.

Every time garen tries to move in to decisive strike just queue up fling and you'll get it off 100% of the time (assuming garen doesn't start right next to you )

You can easily stop garen's passive by tapping poison next to him, it doesnt get creep aggro and stops his otherwise very obnoxious lane sustain


This ends up garen starting his judgement way too far away and doing very little damage. buy a chain armor and ensure victory
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 16 2011 13:21 GMT
#499
On November 16 2011 22:03 epoc wrote:
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?

I once laned Sion vs Singed top, and the Singed would always pop my shield with Fling + Poison asap, making it impossible for me to auto the minions once before exploding the shield. As soon as the shield is down, Sion can't stay to lasthit.
Not sure what Singed's exact setup was, but if you can pop Sion's shield, he should be pretty easy to deal with. Even easier now that the shield is a bit weaker.

I guess Nasus vs Singed will just be freefarm for both, but whether you want that or not is debatable.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 16 2011 13:24 GMT
#500
On November 16 2011 22:20 Phrost wrote:
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On November 16 2011 22:03 epoc wrote:
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?


singed actually takes a dump on garen because his initation is completely countered by the silence interupt delay.

Every time garen tries to move in to decisive strike just queue up fling and you'll get it off 100% of the time (assuming garen doesn't start right next to you )

You can easily stop garen's passive by tapping poison next to him, it doesnt get creep aggro and stops his otherwise very obnoxious lane sustain


This ends up garen starting his judgement way too far away and doing very little damage. buy a chain armor and ensure victory


Do you run a full armor page for Garen? I find that Garen gives me a tough time top when I'm Singed.
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