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[Patch 1.0.0.129: Fizz] General Discussion - Page 26

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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
November 16 2011 13:28 GMT
#501
With diminishing returns to movespeed is it worth it to run quints on people like udyr when you can get it from masteries now?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 16 2011 13:29 GMT
#502
On November 16 2011 17:06 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 17:04 Lanzoma wrote:
On November 16 2011 17:01 TheBJ wrote:
On November 16 2011 16:59 Seuss wrote:
Xin boots first:


Except really you're just going to go Golems -> gank or giant wolf -> blue to gank.


NO offense but nobody plays xin above 2k , even 1800 :>


And?



Dunno , just seems kinda pointless people are making vidoes how to start with boots , when u can kill dragon with better champions. At least to me ;/

You aren't gonna get a chance to do dragon when your lanes are under a ton of pressure starting at level 2-3
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 16 2011 13:38 GMT
#503
On November 16 2011 22:28 rob.au wrote:
With diminishing returns to movespeed is it worth it to run quints on people like udyr when you can get it from masteries now?


It's absolutely a good idea to get movement quints on udyr since your bear stance has a very low uptime especially at lower levels and low cdr. It's even worth getting a fon or trinity on him you DO notice the movement speed damn the diminishing returns.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 13:39:45
November 16 2011 13:38 GMT
#504
Loco: Woong bringing Mundo back? lol
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 16 2011 13:40 GMT
#505
On November 16 2011 22:21 spinesheath wrote:
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On November 16 2011 22:03 epoc wrote:
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?

I once laned Sion vs Singed top, and the Singed would always pop my shield with Fling + Poison asap, making it impossible for me to auto the minions once before exploding the shield. As soon as the shield is down, Sion can't stay to lasthit.
Not sure what Singed's exact setup was, but if you can pop Sion's shield, he should be pretty easy to deal with. Even easier now that the shield is a bit weaker.

I guess Nasus vs Singed will just be freefarm for both, but whether you want that or not is debatable.

Why wouldn't you just qw in his face every single time? Both Q and W have superior range to his E.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 13:49:35
November 16 2011 13:48 GMT
#506
On November 16 2011 19:42 Craton wrote:
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On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand

I lol'd at you asking if people on TL would watch a stream with Korean commentary. Pretty much was this site for years.

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On November 16 2011 16:26 wussleeQ wrote:
On November 16 2011 16:22 sermokala wrote:
fuck yeah. first game in ranked and I won with cho. 0 deaths 1 kills and 7 assists as a hard tank for the team. had a hard war with lee sin in top I got stupid and didn't harass him with his sheild down.

Still it says I'm unranked with my first win wtf?

you don't get a ranking showed until 10 games in with at least 1250 rating.

1200 is the minimum shown


Its 1250 as I have been fluctuating in and out this range.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 16 2011 13:58 GMT
#507
On November 16 2011 22:40 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 22:21 spinesheath wrote:
On November 16 2011 22:03 epoc wrote:
Anyone know good singed top match ups? Pretty much every time I pick him I get countered so hard its not fun. Sion and renekton shit on him. Teemo too. Are there some safe tops vs singed?

I once laned Sion vs Singed top, and the Singed would always pop my shield with Fling + Poison asap, making it impossible for me to auto the minions once before exploding the shield. As soon as the shield is down, Sion can't stay to lasthit.
Not sure what Singed's exact setup was, but if you can pop Sion's shield, he should be pretty easy to deal with. Even easier now that the shield is a bit weaker.

I guess Nasus vs Singed will just be freefarm for both, but whether you want that or not is debatable.

Why wouldn't you just qw in his face every single time? Both Q and W have superior range to his E.

Because then I don't have my shield up for farming, all minions are low and about to get stolen by my own minions, and Singed owns me if I try to lasthit while my shield is down.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 14:06:37
November 16 2011 14:03 GMT
#508
On November 16 2011 08:05 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 06:05 Sabin010 wrote:
jungle blitz
Slow, forced to level 2 gank or recall very early.

Show nested quote +
jungle renekton
Really slow, needs farm from solo too much

Show nested quote +
jungle irelia
Really slow, needs farm from solo even more than Renetkon

Show nested quote +
jungle leona
Garbage

Show nested quote +
jungle veigar, jungle xerath.
Troll picks


What were the masteries you ran on jungle Xerath, or are you just theory crafting these answers?

On November 16 2011 08:12 TheYango wrote:
Why would you want jungle Renek or Irelia? Even if they can clear acceptably and find room to farm after laning, their lane control top lane is so much stronger than any amount of jungle control you could ever hope for from them.


So you could run 2 ap solos instead of getting tanky dps from the top lane.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
November 16 2011 14:06 GMT
#509
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand


I would watch it if it was some tournament being cast or a good scrim. I watched jon747 vids back in SC1 glory days. I don't know the teams that well so knowing that might help.

I definitely wouldn't watch random Korean solo queue though unless they're the only pros playing a new champion. Watching English solo queue is kind of meh as it is unless it's, like, Dan Dihn.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 14:49:25
November 16 2011 14:28 GMT
#510
moved to qq
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 16 2011 14:30 GMT
#511
Oh my lord. Shaco so strong right now. Fuuuuun times lay ahead.
currently rooting for myself.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 16 2011 14:35 GMT
#512
When I first saw the Amethyst Ashe ingame model, I felt like she looked an awful lot like Ivy from Soul Calibur. Then I looked up some pics of Ivy and realized (or rather was reminded) that Ashe wears like 100 times more clothing... So in the end it was just the white hair + purple/gold clothes which made it seem similar?

Is Amethyst Ashe just some random new skin or is it a reference I don't get (not unlikely at all)? Or is it really a clothed version of Ivy?

At least this one doesn't seem to be as horrible ingame as Queen Ashe. That walking animation...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 14:39:22
November 16 2011 14:38 GMT
#513
On November 16 2011 23:28 epoc wrote:
I hate nasus. Went as olaf against him. I literally melee zoned his every creep. He didnt get like even 20 cs on his q. I killed him 5 times. 5 times. But no. He has 96 cs to mine 140. Because they buffed spirit fire. This guy was unbeliavably bad. After I first blooded him he just kept dueling me and I killed him 2 times just because he was retarded. Later on the game as 0/0/5 nasus he even had the nerve to duel me. And yeah I lost. Was at 70% when the duel started. If I zone a guy that hard he should be useless. Might as well afk at fountain. But no spirit fire lets you farm as much as the guy farming normally.

The buff on him was completely retarded. Now you really need to send some specific nasus assassin to counter him or the enemy teams win % will rise like hell. I'm not mad at all that my team fed. That's nothing. The fact that this unbelievably bad nasus got even 1/10 of my cs and fed 5 times with this faceroll hero. I don't think this belongs in qq thread since its not whining about my team.

QQ thread or no? I can delete this and move it there

QQ thread indeed.
And you have to play it REALLY badly if you are ahead by 50 cs and 5 kills and still lose as Olaf. Against ANYONE.

Whoops. That should have been an edit (instead of a double post).
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 16 2011 14:46 GMT
#514
Loco's stream is up and is a) pretty awesome playstyle wise and b) soooo entertaining. It's like watching BW all over again.

''kijji wiji wa! Double-U Q! Waaah Kiji ma ne ha! Woni sasji da nah!''
I don't get any of the stuff he's saying but it sounds awesome and it's very entertaining. Please stream more often, Loco!
currently rooting for myself.
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 16 2011 14:47 GMT
#515
On November 16 2011 23:38 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:28 epoc wrote:
I hate nasus. Went as olaf against him. I literally melee zoned his every creep. He didnt get like even 20 cs on his q. I killed him 5 times. 5 times. But no. He has 96 cs to mine 140. Because they buffed spirit fire. This guy was unbeliavably bad. After I first blooded him he just kept dueling me and I killed him 2 times just because he was retarded. Later on the game as 0/0/5 nasus he even had the nerve to duel me. And yeah I lost. Was at 70% when the duel started. If I zone a guy that hard he should be useless. Might as well afk at fountain. But no spirit fire lets you farm as much as the guy farming normally.

The buff on him was completely retarded. Now you really need to send some specific nasus assassin to counter him or the enemy teams win % will rise like hell. I'm not mad at all that my team fed. That's nothing. The fact that this unbelievably bad nasus got even 1/10 of my cs and fed 5 times with this faceroll hero. I don't think this belongs in qq thread since its not whining about my team.

QQ thread or no? I can delete this and move it there

QQ thread indeed.
And you have to play it REALLY badly if you are ahead by 50 cs and 5 kills and still lose as Olaf. Against ANYONE.

Whoops. That should have been an edit (instead of a double post).


Well no dueling melee vs melee in lol isn't difficult. He uses his abilities and I used mine. That's just how mathematics goes. He won in duel after 50cs behind and 0/0/5 I wasn't full health though. It was damn close though. He was at 3% health and ashe came to help him in the very end. Don't know did she really help because she said she didn't
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 16 2011 14:49 GMT
#516
On November 16 2011 23:28 epoc wrote:
I hate nasus. Went as olaf against him. I literally melee zoned his every creep. He didnt get like even 20 cs on his q. I killed him 5 times. 5 times. But no. He has 96 cs to mine 140. Because they buffed spirit fire. This guy was unbeliavably bad. After I first blooded him he just kept dueling me and I killed him 2 times just because he was retarded. Later on the game as 0/0/5 nasus he even had the nerve to duel me. And yeah I lost. Was at 70% when the duel started. If I zone a guy that hard he should be useless. Might as well afk at fountain. But no spirit fire lets you farm as much as the guy farming normally.

The buff on him was completely retarded. Now you really need to send some specific nasus assassin to counter him or the enemy teams win % will rise like hell. I'm not mad at all that my team fed. That's nothing. The fact that this unbelievably bad nasus got even 1/10 of my cs and fed 5 times with this faceroll hero. I don't think this belongs in qq thread since its not whining about my team.

QQ thread or no? I can delete this and move it there


Posted at the top of the page:

"Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned."

I know reading can be tough, but jeez...

Also, you lost 1v1 as Olaf with a 50cs+5kill advantage against a Nasus who didn't level his Q at all. That has nothing to do with how Nasus is as a champion. The only way you can do that is if 1) you didn't use your abilities, 2) you stood in his spit fire, and 3) you were building gp5 items or some shit
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
November 16 2011 14:53 GMT
#517
On November 16 2011 23:49 Sandster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:28 epoc wrote:
I hate nasus. Went as olaf against him. I literally melee zoned his every creep. He didnt get like even 20 cs on his q. I killed him 5 times. 5 times. But no. He has 96 cs to mine 140. Because they buffed spirit fire. This guy was unbeliavably bad. After I first blooded him he just kept dueling me and I killed him 2 times just because he was retarded. Later on the game as 0/0/5 nasus he even had the nerve to duel me. And yeah I lost. Was at 70% when the duel started. If I zone a guy that hard he should be useless. Might as well afk at fountain. But no spirit fire lets you farm as much as the guy farming normally.

The buff on him was completely retarded. Now you really need to send some specific nasus assassin to counter him or the enemy teams win % will rise like hell. I'm not mad at all that my team fed. That's nothing. The fact that this unbelievably bad nasus got even 1/10 of my cs and fed 5 times with this faceroll hero. I don't think this belongs in qq thread since its not whining about my team.

QQ thread or no? I can delete this and move it there


Posted at the top of the page:

"Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned."

I know reading can be tough, but jeez...

Also, you lost 1v1 as Olaf with a 50cs+5kill advantage against a Nasus who didn't level his Q at all. That has nothing to do with how Nasus is as a champion. The only way you can do that is if 1) you didn't use your abilities, 2) you stood in his spit fire, and 3) you were building gp5 items or some shit


Yes it does have to do with how nasus is as a champion. I think I do use my abilities that is self explanatory and I didn't stand in spirit fire. Build was giants belt and chain vest. Ofc he got like 20-30 farm on q. You can't deny 150 cs in lol. And well the point wasn't to rage about the loss point was to rage about nasus.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:05:35
November 16 2011 15:03 GMT
#518
On November 16 2011 23:53 epoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:49 Sandster wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:28 epoc wrote:
I hate nasus. Went as olaf against him. I literally melee zoned his every creep. He didnt get like even 20 cs on his q. I killed him 5 times. 5 times. But no. He has 96 cs to mine 140. Because they buffed spirit fire. This guy was unbeliavably bad. After I first blooded him he just kept dueling me and I killed him 2 times just because he was retarded. Later on the game as 0/0/5 nasus he even had the nerve to duel me. And yeah I lost. Was at 70% when the duel started. If I zone a guy that hard he should be useless. Might as well afk at fountain. But no spirit fire lets you farm as much as the guy farming normally.

The buff on him was completely retarded. Now you really need to send some specific nasus assassin to counter him or the enemy teams win % will rise like hell. I'm not mad at all that my team fed. That's nothing. The fact that this unbelievably bad nasus got even 1/10 of my cs and fed 5 times with this faceroll hero. I don't think this belongs in qq thread since its not whining about my team.

QQ thread or no? I can delete this and move it there


Posted at the top of the page:

"Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned."

I know reading can be tough, but jeez...

Also, you lost 1v1 as Olaf with a 50cs+5kill advantage against a Nasus who didn't level his Q at all. That has nothing to do with how Nasus is as a champion. The only way you can do that is if 1) you didn't use your abilities, 2) you stood in his spit fire, and 3) you were building gp5 items or some shit


Yes it does have to do with how nasus is as a champion. I think I do use my abilities that is self explanatory and I didn't stand in spirit fire. Build was giants belt and chain vest. Ofc he got like 20-30 farm on q. You can't deny 150 cs in lol. And well the point wasn't to rage about the loss point was to rage about nasus.

It's still QQ.
Also: LOCO JUST READ MY KOREAN OUT LOUD ON STREAM. I'M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!
currently rooting for myself.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 16 2011 15:04 GMT
#519
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand


Probably would prefer it to CLG rage fests.

Also, you don't even want to know how many times I've stayed up until 4 am so I could watch BW. T_T
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 16 2011 15:04 GMT
#520
Is it me or is Fizz now the number 1 level 1 rapist? That little prick does retarded amounts of damage with his W.
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