[Patch 1.0.0.129: Fizz] General Discussion - Page 27

On November 17 2011 00:04 xDaunt wrote:
Is it me or is Fizz now the number 1 level 1 rapist? That little prick does retarded amounts of damage with his W.

On November 17 2011 00:19 Requizen wrote:

Level 1? That shit persists through the game. I think he's one of the highest burst melee's right now, but it could just be getting used to him. His E is really good, though, as both initiation, escape, and jumping over walls.

On November 17 2011 00:28 xDaunt wrote:


I laned against him solotop as Wukong last night and got buttfucked at level 1. I had no idea that he'd hit that hard. He opened with a doran's ring and went to town on me. I felt like he was more manageable though as the game went on. Yes, he still hurt, but he wasn't doing as much damage as a percentage of my health. Also, in teamfights, he can get locked down with CC just like most everyone else.

On November 17 2011 00:39 Requizen wrote:

He's actually a lot harder to pin down if the player is good thanks to Playful/Trickster. I mean, yeah, if he charges in first he'll get focused, obviously, but he's basically an assassin. If he waits until the fight starts, saves Playful for focusing, and keeps moving, he's really slippery.

On November 17 2011 00:46 WaveofShadow wrote:

Haven't seen a Fizz yet (haven't been able to play) but the idea I get from watching streams and such, if he saves Playful Trickster for avoiding cc then he loses a fair amount of burst. His Q isn't quite all that damaging and is only single-target though when combined with W is devastating. Essentially without his E, he has a lot of frontloaded melee burst but is even easier to shut down then, say Akali, who has multiple long-range dashes, a stealth, and innate spell vamp/lifesteal. With his E he can avoid a fair amount of cc if focused early, though he can't go very far to get away, and if he's not in the thick of things he isn't doing any damage.
To me it seems as though Fizz excels in 1v1 fights since his damage is deceptive and he doesn't have to necessarily worry about being locked down with cc and can choose to either avoid or burst with E (or both, if done well). Teamfighting doesn't seem to be his strength, even with his ultimate (which....seems kinda lacklustre? Doesn't hit too hard and the cc is meh).

On November 17 2011 01:31 gnutz wrote:
GJ Riot in making this game more passive.

On November 17 2011 02:06 STS17 wrote:


elaborate?

On November 17 2011 02:08 JackDino wrote:

My guess would be stronger jungling---->faster/easier ganks---> more passive laneplay cause they're scared.

On November 17 2011 02:11 Mogwai wrote:
so the way to make the game less passive is to make everything weaker so that people are less scared?

you fucking guys...

On November 17 2011 02:11 Mogwai wrote:
so the way to make the game less passive is to make everything weaker so that people are less scared?

you fucking guys...

On November 17 2011 02:25 Craton wrote:

It's not wrong.

Compare playing vs a veigar to playing vs a Ryze. Against a veigar you pretty much have to always play super safe because he'll 1 shot you if he ever lands a stun, whereas with Ryze he'll never 100-0 you in a single combo, so you can have more small exchanges.

On November 17 2011 02:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
Max w looked super fast when saint did it yesterday. I mean, you basically need to hit each small creep like twice then let your dot do the rest while you move on to the next.