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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 16 2011 08:07 GMT
#461
On November 16 2011 17:01 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 16:59 Seuss wrote:
Xin boots first:


Except really you're just going to go Golems -> gank or giant wolf -> blue to gank.


NO offense but nobody plays xin above 2k , even 1800 :>


Well yeah, his late game is still terrible. It's just an example of the kind of jungle insanity that's going on right now. Xin can start boots, do his level 2 ganks and still go back in the jungle npnp because of how ridiculous it all is.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 16 2011 08:08 GMT
#462
On November 16 2011 15:50 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 14:55 koreasilver wrote:
The new patch just kicked in on the euw server and 30/0/0 jax is kinda fucking insane in his usual strong early lvl phase.


riven is your answer to everything top lane.

(including this one, already seen 2 rivens absolutely dominate jaxes)


never seen irelia lose vs riven
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 16 2011 08:09 GMT
#463
On November 16 2011 16:59 Seuss wrote:
Xin boots first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXk1bHHVg8

Except really you're just going to go Golems -> gank or giant wolf -> blue to gank.

Rammus before the patch was faster, idk about other junglers cus I rly only played skarner and shaco jungle and shaco sorta isn't comparaable.
In the woods, there lurks..
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 08:20:10
November 16 2011 08:16 GMT
#464
On November 16 2011 17:01 TheBJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 16:59 Seuss wrote:
Xin boots first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXk1bHHVg8

Except really you're just going to go Golems -> gank or giant wolf -> blue to gank.


NO offense but nobody plays xin above 2k , even 1800 :>

Because when masteries have changed extremely drastically, 2k Elo instantly knows who's good and who's not right away.

On November 16 2011 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Rammus before the patch was faster, idk about other junglers cus I rly only played skarner and shaco jungle and shaco sorta isn't comparaable.

Why are you even discussing jungle speed when it's freaking boots start? The fact that Xin (and several other junglers including Skarner and Udyr) can do full clears with boots, and threaten boots gank without having to go back is pretty huge. How fast they clear isn't even the relevant issue here.

Yes Rammus ganks are still stronger probably. Though Rammus could probably get away with starting boots also (and don't tell me that a level 3 Rammus gank with Boots doesn't sound scary as fuck).
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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
November 16 2011 08:17 GMT
#465
On November 16 2011 17:07 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 17:01 TheBJ wrote:
On November 16 2011 16:59 Seuss wrote:
Xin boots first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsXk1bHHVg8

Except really you're just going to go Golems -> gank or giant wolf -> blue to gank.


NO offense but nobody plays xin above 2k , even 1800 :>


Well yeah, his late game is still terrible. It's just an example of the kind of jungle insanity that's going on right now. Xin can start boots, do his level 2 ganks and still go back in the jungle npnp because of how ridiculous it all is.


I played a normal game , killed 3 drakes and baron by 19th min solo. :D

Ad augusta per angust
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 08:22:32
November 16 2011 08:21 GMT
#466
On November 16 2011 17:08 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 15:50 Brees wrote:
On November 16 2011 14:55 koreasilver wrote:
The new patch just kicked in on the euw server and 30/0/0 jax is kinda fucking insane in his usual strong early lvl phase.


riven is your answer to everything top lane.

(including this one, already seen 2 rivens absolutely dominate jaxes)


never seen irelia lose vs riven


you havent played on the new patch enough yet then

how is a weak level 1-5 character gonna do anything when good lvl 1-5 characters get stomped? doesnt make sense
Brees on in
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 16 2011 08:24 GMT
#467
On November 16 2011 17:21 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 17:08 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On November 16 2011 15:50 Brees wrote:
On November 16 2011 14:55 koreasilver wrote:
The new patch just kicked in on the euw server and 30/0/0 jax is kinda fucking insane in his usual strong early lvl phase.


riven is your answer to everything top lane.

(including this one, already seen 2 rivens absolutely dominate jaxes)


never seen irelia lose vs riven


you havent played on the new patch enough yet then

how is a weak level 1-5 character gonna do anything when good lvl 1-5 characters get stomped? doesnt make sense

lots of armorrrr
GANDHISAUCE
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 08:57:14
November 16 2011 08:48 GMT
#468
On November 16 2011 11:15 LoCicero wrote:
So my stream is now featured on TL!! Thank you Tyler!

Chilltoss being the fucking gentleman he is. And fyi: I bet he was wearing a dressing gown and had a glass of wine while he managed to get your stream featured.

Edit: also, congratulations Loci, you deserve it.
currently rooting for myself.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 16 2011 08:50 GMT
#469
On November 16 2011 17:24 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 17:21 Brees wrote:
On November 16 2011 17:08 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On November 16 2011 15:50 Brees wrote:
On November 16 2011 14:55 koreasilver wrote:
The new patch just kicked in on the euw server and 30/0/0 jax is kinda fucking insane in his usual strong early lvl phase.


riven is your answer to everything top lane.

(including this one, already seen 2 rivens absolutely dominate jaxes)


never seen irelia lose vs riven


you havent played on the new patch enough yet then

how is a weak level 1-5 character gonna do anything when good lvl 1-5 characters get stomped? doesnt make sense

lots of armorrrr


check out the new offensive masteries i heard they are pretty cool at getting rid of armor. also riven finisher with executioner = rofl damage


in other news westrice penta with akali in a scrim. real nerfed.
Brees on in
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 16 2011 09:07 GMT
#470
quite a comeback. LOCO HWAITING
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
November 16 2011 09:07 GMT
#471
holy shit that cornsalad kassadin
GANDHISAUCE
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
November 16 2011 10:01 GMT
#472
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand
i wish riot would give me better ping
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 16 2011 10:04 GMT
#473
On November 16 2011 19:01 locodoco wrote:
how do u guys feel about watching a korean stream?
cuz for me i would never watch a stream that wasnt in a language i can understand

This is TL we're talking about here. Plenty of people watch Proleague/MSL/OSL for Starcraft without having a clue what the commentators are saying.
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NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
November 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#474
watched pro BW for at least a year and never understood a single word. you gotta make sure to yell a lot and get really excited though...
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:18:07
November 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#475
Has anyone explored the option of popping Surge on a support (or whoever on the team could take it) to kill the first blue insanely quickly?
I also figure that Surge will make Dragon a piece of cake.

Wait, is Surge even an Aura now? I thought it was, since it was supposed to replace Rally, but the tooltip doesn't say anthing about that.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
November 16 2011 10:16 GMT
#476
On November 16 2011 19:16 NSANE.hydra wrote:
watched pro BW for at least a year and never understood a single word. you gotta make sure to yell a lot and get really excited though...

i dont yell.....lol
i wish riot would give me better ping
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 16 2011 10:17 GMT
#477
So, what's the ommon opinion of Fizz for people playing on NA ?
I hear he was pretty good, and quite trolly with the Pole ability, but i have trouble imaging laning against a competent ranged caster at mid with him.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:19:09
November 16 2011 10:18 GMT
#478
On November 16 2011 19:16 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 19:16 NSANE.hydra wrote:
watched pro BW for at least a year and never understood a single word. you gotta make sure to yell a lot and get really excited though...

i dont yell.....lol


haha well it was easy and fun to watch BW because of the commentators, but i'm sure people would still enjoying watching a quality stream regardless of language
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 16 2011 10:18 GMT
#479
On November 16 2011 19:16 spinesheath wrote:
Has anyone explored the option of popping Surge on a support (or whoever on the team could take it) to kill the first blue insanely quickly?
I also figure that Surge will make Dragon a piece of cake.

Wait, is Surge even an Aura now? I thought it was, since it was supposed to replace Rally, but the tooltip doesn't say anthing about that.

As far as I'm aware, it's only a self-steroid.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 10:25:43
November 16 2011 10:21 GMT
#480
Yea after some research that seems to be the case... Man they sure fooled me.

Does someone know the exact stats for Promote on SR?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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