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[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Ro8 - Group B

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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 12:55:42
June 12 2025 09:52 GMT
#1
GSL Code S - Ro8 - Group B

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2025/Season 2

Stream

https://www.sooplive.com/gslenglish

Participants

(P)herO
(T)Bunny
(P)Zoun
(P)Classic

Map Pool

(Wiki)Incorporeal LE
(Wiki)Last Fantasy LE
(Wiki)Ley Lines
(Wiki)Magannatha LE
(Wiki)Persephone LE
(Wiki)Pylon LE
(Wiki)Tokamak LE
(Wiki)Torches LE
(Wiki)Ultralove

Results

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)herO 1 - 2 (P)Zoun
(T)Bunny 1 - 2 (P)Classic
(P)Zoun 1 - 2 (P)Classic
(P)herO 2 - 1 (T)Bunny
(P)Zoun 1 - 2 (P)herO

(P)Classic and (P)herO advance!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 09:53 GMT
#2
I guess I'll make a budget thread for this group.

If I was Zoun in that first game, I would've left as soon as the Stargate got depowered haha!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 12 2025 09:55 GMT
#3
On June 12 2025 18:53 MJG wrote:
I guess I'll make a budget thread for this group.

If I was Zoun in that first game, I would've left as soon as the Stargate got depowered haha!

tyty

wtf is this match lol
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 10:01:04
June 12 2025 09:59 GMT
#4
I think herO has been watching Rotti streaming with this third base location haha.

EDIT:

Big win for Zoun. Needs to make it stick in the winner's match!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
dedede
Profile Joined March 2024
United States116 Posts
June 12 2025 10:14 GMT
#5
Zoun is so good I'm a fan now
Terran
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 10:20 GMT
#6
On June 12 2025 19:14 dedede wrote:
Zoun is so good I'm a fan now

He can be a little hot-or-cold and that's kinda frustrating, but when he's on his game he's a top-level Protoss.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
June 12 2025 10:35 GMT
#7
So bunny knew forver that there was no 3rd and still just sent it? he had a reaper to see that the third was at least super super late.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 10:40:02
June 12 2025 10:37 GMT
#8
The safer two-base Storm timing in this game is the exact kind of adjustment that was going to happen as soon as Terrans started pulling SCVs too frequently.

If Bunny had gone into a macro game it could've been fairly even going into the mid-game, but he ran his workers into the Thunderdome instead.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 12 2025 10:42 GMT
#9
The thing is most Terran dont see macro PvT is playable, outside of Clem and maybe Maru. Bunny 3rd CC would still have been behind Classic anyway and he cant move out until he got better tech and upgrade.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
June 12 2025 10:42 GMT
#10
On June 12 2025 19:37 MJG wrote:
The safer two-base Storm timing in this game is the exact kind of adjustment that was going to happen as soon as Terrans started pulling SCVs too frequently.

If Bunny had gone into a macro game it could've been fairly even going into the mid-game, but he ran his workers into the Thunderdome instead.

His reaper even saw the 3rd bein really really late so i dont get it.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 10:57 GMT
#11
On June 12 2025 19:42 tigera6 wrote:
The thing is most Terran dont see macro PvT is playable, outside of Clem and maybe Maru. Bunny 3rd CC would still have been behind Classic anyway and he cant move out until he got better tech and upgrade.

It's perfectly playable if you can get to a Viking/Ghost or Liberator/Ghost late game.

The problem has been that Protoss is able to cut too many corners in the early game, so they've had too much of a lead going into the mid game, and so Terrans have been getting run over before they can get their late game tech.

This won't happen if Protoss is too scared to cut corners and Bunny had already confirmed that Classic wasn't cutting corners, so doing an attack that only works if Protoss cuts corners was a silly strategic decision.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
June 12 2025 11:03 GMT
#12
the PvPs today have been wild lol
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 12 2025 11:11 GMT
#13
On June 12 2025 19:57 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2025 19:42 tigera6 wrote:
The thing is most Terran dont see macro PvT is playable, outside of Clem and maybe Maru. Bunny 3rd CC would still have been behind Classic anyway and he cant move out until he got better tech and upgrade.

It's perfectly playable if you can get to a Viking/Ghost or Liberator/Ghost late game.

The problem has been that Protoss is able to cut too many corners in the early game, so they've had too much of a lead going into the mid game, and so Terrans have been getting run over before they can get their late game tech.

This won't happen if Protoss is too scared to cut corners and Bunny had already confirmed that Classic wasn't cutting corners, so doing an attack that only works if Protoss cuts corners was a silly strategic decision.

To play that lategame style you need at least a 4th base then trying to hold a 5th, but most Terran hasnt been able to hold their 4th against midgame Protoss army from what I have seen at top level.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3510 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 11:36:21
June 12 2025 11:35 GMT
#14
On June 12 2025 20:11 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2025 19:57 MJG wrote:
On June 12 2025 19:42 tigera6 wrote:
The thing is most Terran dont see macro PvT is playable, outside of Clem and maybe Maru. Bunny 3rd CC would still have been behind Classic anyway and he cant move out until he got better tech and upgrade.

It's perfectly playable if you can get to a Viking/Ghost or Liberator/Ghost late game.

The problem has been that Protoss is able to cut too many corners in the early game, so they've had too much of a lead going into the mid game, and so Terrans have been getting run over before they can get their late game tech.

This won't happen if Protoss is too scared to cut corners and Bunny had already confirmed that Classic wasn't cutting corners, so doing an attack that only works if Protoss cuts corners was a silly strategic decision.

To play that lategame style you need at least a 4th base then trying to hold a 5th, but most Terran hasnt been able to hold their 4th against midgame Protoss army from what I have seen at top level.

Yea because protosses got a quicker third to snowball but if the protoss aint taking a 3rd until like 6-7minutes in he cannot snowball like that.
Edit: in g3 the canceled 3rd cc by bunny was still earlier than classics actual 3rd base.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 11:49:17
June 12 2025 11:41 GMT
#15
herO on his last life.

It would be a massive upset if both herO and Maru failed to make the playoffs!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 11:49 GMT
#16
herO did really well to come back from how much of a disaster his Blink aggression was.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 12:07 GMT
#17
Zoun vs. The Rematch Curse.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-12 12:24:45
June 12 2025 12:24 GMT
#18
Hoping for ideally Gumiho and Rogue to win to ensure a high-stakes final for the EWC spot!

2nd preference would be for both to lose and then a high-stakes bo5 for that spot.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
June 12 2025 12:31 GMT
#19
On June 12 2025 20:35 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2025 20:11 tigera6 wrote:
On June 12 2025 19:57 MJG wrote:
On June 12 2025 19:42 tigera6 wrote:
The thing is most Terran dont see macro PvT is playable, outside of Clem and maybe Maru. Bunny 3rd CC would still have been behind Classic anyway and he cant move out until he got better tech and upgrade.

It's perfectly playable if you can get to a Viking/Ghost or Liberator/Ghost late game.

The problem has been that Protoss is able to cut too many corners in the early game, so they've had too much of a lead going into the mid game, and so Terrans have been getting run over before they can get their late game tech.

This won't happen if Protoss is too scared to cut corners and Bunny had already confirmed that Classic wasn't cutting corners, so doing an attack that only works if Protoss cuts corners was a silly strategic decision.

To play that lategame style you need at least a 4th base then trying to hold a 5th, but most Terran hasnt been able to hold their 4th against midgame Protoss army from what I have seen at top level.

Yea because protosses got a quicker third to snowball but if the protoss aint taking a 3rd until like 6-7minutes in he cannot snowball like that.
Edit: in g3 the canceled 3rd cc by bunny was still earlier than classics actual 3rd base.

Classic was still ahead on worker, has Storm - Charge - Blink and a Robo. Meanwhile Bunny has no Combat Shield, no EBay, only 3 Barracks, 1 Reactor. Even if Bunny could build a faster 3rd CC, he cant land that 3rd base while Classic can make more probes, take a 4th and get quicker upgrade.

Bunny already cutting corner for his timing push as well, so its not as straight forward as he can get back to a macro game with a quicker 3rd CC.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1053 Posts
June 12 2025 12:43 GMT
#20
The PvP games today have been great. A lot more entertaining than I was expecting.
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
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