EPTOn January 19 2017 00:19 Ektor Baboden wrote:
I guess I know who's going to be always banned first in HL.
I guess I know who's going to be always banned first in HL.
Always Samuro.
Valeera Patch General Discussion - Page 3
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Bareleon
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Always Samuro. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
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Sakat
Croatia1599 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On January 19 2017 02:29 jpg06051992 wrote: Tass rework seems cool, the new hero is going to be fucking ridiculous OP just like every other new assassin..I mean er..every new hero that Blizzard releases. On the upside probably every team will have a tassadar as well as Valeera so Oracles are going to make her a bit weaker right off the bat but with the stun she is going to pretty much hard counter slow squishies Some of the bruisers really need some love, Arthas and Sonya need buffs so badly they are crap in the current meta, Arthas got the rework not too long ago which was desperately needed but he still suffers from no escapes/engage outside of a skill shot root, an unusual vulnerability to CC like Artanis except Artanis does the same job that Arthas does but WAY better, Sonya just needs a rework, shes old and outdated, both of their win rates have been in the dumpster for awhile though. Arthas is ok as a niche pick imo, he could do with a few numbers tweaked but nothing substantial - you can still get pretty good value out of him on some maps. Sonya could do with a decent buff but she's the type of hero where a small buff can lead to her becoming extremely strong again. Uther and Stiches really need some love. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
I think that's the most mana expensive ability in the game and the heal isn't that high. Granted, with mana globe talent it gets easier later on but it hurts so much in the early game. After about 5 heals you're out of mana. He has no mana sustain as a result. His AA is also pitiful. I wouldn't mind Uther being a good tank-healer hybrid who can frontline with more emphasis on tanking, healing and his stun than say a Rehgar doing some nibbling but he could use a generic buff. Piano Uther still remains one my favorite supports to play, you can pull off some real saving magic with that build. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Not sure what Stitches needs, with tanks like Dehaka, Diablo and Artanis being top picks in the meta, he feels kind of weak. His hook is pretty much the only thing that made him special and beside that and being really strong against spell damage he doesn't bring much to the table compared to all these Warriors, while they do both of these things and a lot more. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On January 20 2017 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote: Uther will get some buffs, they already said that near the end of the previous year. Now that they introduced armor to so many characters and abilities, it would be cool for him to get some kind of devotion aura where he would give 15-25 armor to ally heroes around him, depending on the level of that talent. That could address him being tanky support as they want and help him with his weakness, which is weak AoE healing. Could be cool if they built that the same way they do his Holy Fire - every time he auto-attacks, the aura becomes stronger by five armour or something. Capped, obviously. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
So if uther hits like 12 AAs, then enemy need to retreat and reset. Could be cool imo | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7021 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On January 21 2017 02:49 Harris1st wrote: my player level is reset? bug or feature? if you get to keep your heroes, sounds like free gold to me  | ||
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Slydie
1927 Posts
On January 21 2017 03:29 MotherFox wrote: if you get to keep your heroes, sounds like free gold to me Sounds like a bug or the old "logged into the wrong region" trap. | ||
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jpg06051992
United States580 Posts
On January 19 2017 21:28 Larkin wrote: Arthas is ok as a niche pick imo, he could do with a few numbers tweaked but nothing substantial - you can still get pretty good value out of him on some maps. Sonya could do with a decent buff but she's the type of hero where a small buff can lead to her becoming extremely strong again. Uther and Stiches really need some love. Yea he really does just need a few numbers tweak, I just have Arthas at 14 and Artanis/Leo/Mura all at level 10 -12 so I'm decently well versed in the role, and for Arthas you need to kind of build around his weaknesses to really shine, where as Artanis excels with pretty much any other tank helping him to soak up some damage and Leoric and Muradin just kinda do well on most team comps because they are generic damage sponges with strong escapes. Oh lord Stitches is so bad as well, don't know how I didn't mention him in the, "bruisers needing some love" whine because he sure as hell does. I think if he was just straight up beefier or did a bit more damage he'd be good, kind of like Arthas, he does good damage and the roots can be clutch but he's very brittle and vulnerable to CC, and in the current meta, there is fucking CC for days. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
He counters AA melee assassins pretty hard with his E talent on 13, slowing down attack speed by 40%. I go for the Death Coil talents on 4 and 7, which effectively gives you a 900+ heal on lvl 20 on a 7 second cooldown at 50 mana and it does poke damage to the enemy. Great sustain. If you don't have to main tank and you don't have Sylvanas, Sindragosa can be amazing for pushing with objectives. You just got a Punisher on Infernal Shrines? Throw Sindragosa on the lane it is pushing in and watch as all structures are shut down for 20 seconds. You can fight with the Punisher 5v5 and the Fort/Keep is just sitting there being useless. He can root quite frequently (especially with the 16 talent) which can really hamper certain heroes. Lastly, he can deal decent damage over time with Frostmourne and his E. | ||
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Ej_
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
i see so many complaints about 1.5 seconds and all i can sit and think is, how would anyone manage dota where some stuns are like 5 seconds. something ive wanted to get into but not really sure if its for me | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On January 22 2017 17:01 arb wrote: is 1 second a long stun on this game? i see so many complaints about 1.5 seconds and all i can sit and think is, how would anyone manage dota where some stuns are like 5 seconds. something ive wanted to get into but not really sure if its for me Yup, game is really fast paced and people often die in 2 seconds stun. Blizzard nerfed disabled all over the board because of the stun lock meta, Muradin had 1.5 seconds stun, now 1.25, Arthas had 1.5 seconds root, now it is 1.25, Brightwing had 1.5 seconds Polymorph, now it is 1.25 and so on... Valeera being melee assassin with huge burst potential while having 1.5 seconds stun and 2 seconds silence is quite insane and she is getting at least stun or both CCs nerfed for sure. There are a lot of heroes that melts 3/4 of anyone's HP in 1-2 seconds, imagine what whole team can do in that time. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
oh and Amateur Opponent also makes him a PvE monster | ||
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jpg06051992
United States580 Posts
On January 23 2017 01:00 Ej_ wrote: hahaha I knew Artanis was strong when they gave him an engage, but playing him now... He's the perfect off-tank. Stupid damage, ridiculous initiation range, silly survivability oh and Amateur Opponent also makes him a PvE monster Yup, I started playing with him after they put his Purifier skin on sale, and thats when I noticed how ridiculously good of an off tank he was compared to good old Arthas/Stitches/Sonya. To the guy above, any hero can be good if played perfectly, even heroes that are considered poor in the meta can do well with a team comp built around them or with someone who is very skilled with said hero, that doesn't make the hero not weak or not in need of tweaks though. The older bruisers need love, the game is full of too many burst assassins so we need some more heroes in the game who don't just die in seconds. | ||
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