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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
![[image loading]](http://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/blog_header/s9/S905U982A5MG1441231839760.jpg) Full Patch Notes Heroes 2.0 has arrived! For a summary of the changes check here Highlights include:
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
it's pretty cool though. | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
Good patch though, glad I just bought Illidan two days ago and didn't invest too much time, Dehaka looks sick. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
On March 30 2016 02:37 Beelzebub1 wrote: Really blown away that they reworked all of these heroes so extensively and the one hero that so desperately needs a talent rework (Arthas) remains untouched, viable (ehh...kinda) but terribly boring and nonstrategic. Good patch though, glad I just bought Illidan two days ago and didn't invest too much time, Dehaka looks sick. Yeah Arthas is right there with Tychus on having a ton of generic talents and never seeing play. He's definitely who I want to be reworked the most because before all these other warriors he was my favorite. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Hopefully they'll rework his trait too. Uther's works, Leoric's works, Tyrael's? Not so much since 90% of the time the enemy hero can dodge it, it won't do enough damage or the teamfight was completely lost anyway. Also feels weird that an Archangel of the High Heavens would have an suicide bomb as a trait. I'd rather see something more themed to him where he does more damage or takes less damage depending on how he and his team are dishing out/taking damage. | ||
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Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On March 30 2016 02:48 Valiver wrote: Now that I think about it, they only reworked Assassins and Specialists this patch. Maybe next patch will be all Supports/Warriors. Tyrael, Arthas, Malfurion, Muradin, Anub'arak, Uther are all possible cases with generic talents/bad. Do we really think they will ever rid, generic talents from the Warriors? Seems like the talents are too ingrained into the role to be removed. Block, Regen Master, Amplified Healing, Stone Skin, Blood for Blood, Imposing Presence, Spell Shield, Hardened Shield, Burning Rage. I don't see how they can remove all of these, for specific talents to the heroes them selves. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 30 2016 02:53 Cyanocyst wrote: Do we really think they will ever rid, generic talents from the Warriors? Seems like the talents are too ingrained into the role to be removed. Block, Regen Master, Amplified Healing, Stone Skin, Blood for Blood, Imposing Presence, Spell Shield, Hardened Shield, Burning Rage. I don't see how they can remove all of these, for specific talents to the heroes them selves. We probably could have said something similar about bolt of the storm and all the assassins that had it--- simply removing it would have made these assassins far too immobile in their states at the time. I could easily see these talents turned into specialized versions. (which many of them already are--- diablo gets a version of burning rage at 4, tyrael a version of imposing presence at 13, etc, etc) | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
On March 30 2016 02:48 Valiver wrote: Now that I think about it, they only reworked Assassins and Specialists this patch. Maybe next patch will be all Supports/Warriors. Tyrael, Arthas, Malfurion, Muradin, Anub'arak, Uther are all possible cases with generic talents/bad. Really hoping this is the case but doubting it, the blues seem borderline flippant when questioned about tank reworks even though tanks are by far the worst designed characters in the game (talent tree wise not balance) maybe excluding Leoric who has multiple viable builds (maybe not at highest level but you can run W talent tree if the other team has double warrior) so he's good. I'm glad to see any old hero rework though to be honest, tired of all of these new heroes being OP as hell while the older (and much more nostalgic/pleasing) heroes seem cast to the wayside. But yea, heres to hoping for an Arthas/Tyrael/Anub rework, shit Anub I consider less viable as a solo tank then even Arthas. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
In general his new talents seem crazy powerful at the early levels. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 30 2016 05:34 zlefin wrote: I noticed that sweeping strikes got the damage bonus even if it only hit minions, which seems different from what the text says. The text is wrong--- this was confirmed by a bliz bluepost on reddit. | ||
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NKB
United Kingdom608 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On March 30 2016 05:44 NKB wrote: Do you think would remove block and regen master from warriors when they are both quite useful at keeping the tank in the fight for that little longer? I'd like to see unique versions of block/regen master on par with johanna's version of block. [or the vikings version of regen master] As it is, whenever they upgrade a generic skill it seems something gets left behind. Currently Morales' "Advanced" Block is strictly worse than normal block. (reducing 3 attacks by 50% instead of 2 attacks by 75% means she has less burst damage prevention--- for a skill a talent tier higher than normal block) | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On March 30 2016 05:52 MotherFox wrote: I'd like to see unique versions of block/regen master on par with johanna's version of block. [or the vikings version of regen master] As it is, whenever they upgrade a generic skill it seems something gets left behind. Currently Morales' "Advanced" Block is strictly worse than normal block. (reducing 3 attacks by 50% instead of 2 attacks by 75% means she has less burst damage prevention--- for a skill a talent tier higher than normal block) Normal block reduces damage by 50%. Anyway, Hero League is so much better with bans. EDIT: NM, was looking at old info. It is 75%. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
edit: it seems the european login servers are dead: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/20743015992 I did update my game but cannot log in. Hope they fix it before lunch break. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On March 30 2016 05:52 MotherFox wrote: I'd like to see unique versions of block/regen master on par with johanna's version of block. [or the vikings version of regen master] As it is, whenever they upgrade a generic skill it seems something gets left behind. Currently Morales' "Advanced" Block is strictly worse than normal block. (reducing 3 attacks by 50% instead of 2 attacks by 75% means she has less burst damage prevention--- for a skill a talent tier higher than normal block) Morales' version is still strictly better in 1v1.... :-)? I don't mind some characters having a weaker than baseline version. Artanis has a weaker version in that he needs to W to get block, for example. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7142 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:23 SC2Toastie wrote: Morales' version is still strictly better in 1v1.... :-)? I don't mind some characters having a weaker than baseline version. Artanis has a weaker version in that he needs to W to get block, for example. Which has a 4 second CD, making it a better version of block (which has 5sec CD) | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
 It's not only bad for the players, but EU content creators NEVER get anything 'new' to feature either. | ||
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