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On January 22 2007 21:27 CrownRoyal wrote:
I have written several things trying to decipher on my own some of the unanswerable questions in life, such as things about god and in general just all of the difficult questions in the world. I don't necessarily agree with any of them, they are just theories that I formed.
Here is one of them, it's the latest one I thought of and most of the ideas aren't completely thought out or even right, but I think it's an interesting idea.
X = Life "Theory"
In mathematics one encounters several things. One of these things being equations. Equations can be made for literally ANYTHING. These equations enable us to have a completely accurate prediction of, as I said earlier, literally anything.
Knowing this, that anything can be predicted via mathematics, I am hypothesizing that human life also must have an equation where one can predict what anyone will do in any given situation, thus human life has no free will and fate is very much so real, to the point that we are all merely points on the graph of an XY chart. The end of the world can be predicted, the creation of our world can be found, we can understand nearly all of the questions that life has left us unanswered without ever leaving our rooms, we can travel through time, we can essentially understand everything by finding an equation for every single living person to figure out what they would do in any situation presented in front of them.
I believe this hypothesis is valid for the reason that I have no reason to believe human beings are special, if I can predict how a ball will roll across the ground, I should be able to predict how someone will react if I punch them in the face, though, the equation is going to be very complex there is most definitely one to achieve the answer that I am looking for.
To say that I am looking for an equation where I will know how Johnny Walker will react to being hit in the face is completely wrong, however, I am moreso looking at the idea of an equation that would set the path of your life, from your first action to your last. I’m not sure at this point how the equation would have to work to accomplish this, I would hypothesize that the answer to how you reacted would be iterated back into the formula somehow, but the exact details are unimportant to me. In this hypothesis I am forced to assume it is possible to create this complex equation merely because I see no reason not to believe it, if I can predict other things it is my belief then I can predict human behaviors.
If I could somehow possess this wonderful tool, I could work the equations backwards or forwards through every generation(time travel). I would essentially possess the ability to know when anything would happen. What a scary idea...
In conclusion: My hypothesis is that it is possible to create an equation that will lay out the path of any man's life and if this is possible, free will is nonexistent and life isn't quite as magical as one might expect.
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On November 08 2007 02:00 XCetron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2007 01:48 Never Post wrote:On November 08 2007 01:46 CrownRoyal wrote:
Knowing that you must go halfway to an object to reach it you can never really reach your destination because you must always go halfway to get there and you can't go halfway and make it completely somewhere; You just keep halving forever. To make it to a destination you must actually exert effort enough to make it beyond your destination, at least a very very small bit.
Isn't that a really stupid argument if you consider that you can easily walk from your chair to the door, even though you can always halve the distance between the two positions? What I mean is the infinite series of 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 converges to 1, you don't have to go "over 1". But youd never reach 1 if you keep halving the distance.
You would if you did it an infinite number of times. Whether that's possible is an entirely different topic.
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Vatican City State1872 Posts
no you wouldn't you would just be infinitely close.
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This sounds remarkably similar to the "does .999... = 1" thing.
People would benefit so much from learning just a bit more maths.
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On November 08 2007 02:38 CrownRoyal wrote:
no you wouldn't you would just be infinitely close.
Apparently not since my hand can reach my laptop.
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im not talking about that drainx, i'm talking about if you kept going half way you can't ever reach your true destination
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I'm not going to repeat myself again...
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On November 08 2007 02:23 CrownRoyal wrote:
using my initial argument travel is impossible completely.
i know you can debunk that idea (it's some old philosopher's idea) but I don't remember how
Isn't this the same thing as "Hercules and the tortoise"?
Hercules travels at 10 mps, the tortoise travels at 1 mps.
The tortoise starts 10 meters ahead of hercules and they travel in the same dirrection.
After 1 second the tortoise is only 1 meter ahead. (hercules has allready coverd the tortoises initial head start, but the tortoise has moved another 1 meter)
In the next .1 of a second the tortoise has moved .1 of a meter and is still .1 of meter ahead because hercules has coverd 1 meter.
After another .01 of a second, the tortoise is only .01 of a meter ahead.
We keep adding on aditional bits of time, dividing by 10 each time. If we do this ad infinitum hercules can never catch the tortoise because the ammount of ground he covers can only equal the head start the tortoise. Therefore, even with an infinite ammount of time hercules can never catch the tortoise.
It's complete nonsense.
EDIT: Turns out I'm wrong. Wikipedia has an interesting article on Xenos paradoxes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise
I think the one that was mentioned earlier was "The dichotomy paradox"
EDIT 2: Also it is Achilles not Hercules anway. oops
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In conclusion: My hypothesis is that it is possible to create an equation that will lay out the path of any man's life and if this is possible, free will is nonexistent and life isn't quite as magical as one might expect.
The human brain is a quantum computer. It is impossible to exactly predict quantum happenings. It is that base unpredictability that gives humans free will. If it's impossible to predict where a simple electron will be, what makes you think you can graph an entire human being?
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The Fourth Dimension of Time is a stable construct, though it is not impenetrable. Incidents when the fabric of the fourth dimension becomes corrupted are incredibly rare. If a Tangent Universe occurs, it will be highly unstable, sustaining itself for no longer than several weeks. Eventually it will collapse upon itself, forming a black hole within the Primary Universe capable of destroying all existence.
Water and Metal are the key elements of Time Travel..Water is the barrier element for the construction of Time Portals used as gateways between Universes at the Tangent Vortex. Metal is the (transitional) element for the construction of Artifact Vessels.
When a Tangent Universe occurs, those living nearest to the Vortex will find themselves at the epicenter of a dangerous new world. Artifacts provide the first sign that a Tangent Universe has occurred. If an Artifact occurs, the Living will retrieve it with great interest and curiosity. Artifacts returned to the Primary Universe are often linked to religious iconography; as their appearance on Earth seems to defy logical explanation. Divine Intervention is deemed the only logical con-. clusion for the appearance of the Artifact.
The Living Receiver is chosen to guide the Artifact into position for it's journey back to the Primary Universe. No one knows how or why a Receiver will be chosen. The Living Receiver is often “blessed” with a Fourth Dimensional Power(s). These include increased strength, telekinesis, mind control, and the ability to conjure fire and water. The Living Receiver is often tormented by terrifying dreams, visions and auditory hallucinations during his time within the Tangent Universe. Those surrounding the Living Receiver, known as the Manipulated, will fear him and try to destroy him.
The Manipulated Living are often the close friends and neighbors of the Living Receiver. They are prone to irrational, bizarre, and often violent behavior. This is the unfortunate result of their task, which is to assist the Living Receiver in returning the Artifact to the Primary Universe..The Manipulated Living will do anything to save themselves from Oblivion
I will explain more later.
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On November 08 2007 02:50 garmule2 wrote:Show nested quote +In conclusion: My hypothesis is that it is possible to create an equation that will lay out the path of any man's life and if this is possible, free will is nonexistent and life isn't quite as magical as one might expect. The human brain is a quantum computer. It is impossible to exactly predict quantum happenings. It is that base unpredictability that gives humans free will. If it's impossible to predict where a simple electron will be, what makes you think you can graph an entire human being?
I most certainly cannot, it is entirely a hypothesis in which i assumed that it was possible for the basis of my idea.
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On November 08 2007 02:32 CrownRoyal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2007 21:27 CrownRoyal wrote:
In mathematics one encounters several things. One of these things being equations. Equations can be made for literally ANYTHING. These equations enable us to have a completely accurate prediction of, as I said earlier, literally anything.
This and your conclusion really shows you don't know enough about maths, look up Chaos Theory why don't you?
Oh and you'll probably need a heavy dose of quantum mechanics too before you can make any sensible hypothesis on this topic at all.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
it is my belief that for time travel to exist (backwards in time) that everything in this world and life must be pre-determined and fated by a god
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Vatican City State1872 Posts
On January 22 2007 21:27 CrownRoyal wrote:
I have written several things trying to decipher on my own some of the unanswerable questions in life, such as things about god and in general just all of the difficult questions in the world. I don't necessarily agree with any of them, they are just theories that I formed.
Here is one of them, it's the latest one I thought of and most of the ideas aren't completely thought out or even right, but I think it's an interesting idea.
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On November 08 2007 02:59 Rekrul wrote:
it is my belief that for time travel to exist (backwards in time) that everything in this world and life must be pre-determined and fated by a god
I see what you're doing.. Turning this into a religious debate because your banscythe has gotten rusty.
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On November 08 2007 03:01 CrownRoyal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2007 21:27 CrownRoyal wrote:
I have written several things trying to decipher on my own some of the unanswerable questions in life, such as things about god and in general just all of the difficult questions in the world. I don't necessarily agree with any of them, they are just theories that I formed.
Here is one of them, it's the latest one I thought of and most of the ideas aren't completely thought out or even right, but I think it's an interesting idea.
Yeah, I read that, but what I was trying to say is that what may seem interesting and possibly viable to you is simply due to your lack of knowledge. There's very little truth in your post and even less that could make for interesting discussion, it's just mostly wrong.
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as usual no one can be original and some other douchebags had stolen my idea centuries before i was born
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On November 08 2007 02:59 Rekrul wrote:
it is my belief that for time travel to exist (backwards in time) that everything in this world and life must be pre-determined and fated by a god
I think it is a mistake to use the word "predetermined". That implies planning, wheras what the situation actualy suggests is that the world is mechanistic. That is to say that, given the same inputs and the same processing, the results will allways be the same.
I don't pretend to understand quantum theory, but if I am not much mistaken, quantum theory implies genuine randomness in some physical processes, making the above incorrect. By genuine randomness I mean that even with all the data at our fingertips, we can only predict probabities rather than outcomes.
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I don't think that's what you're describing, and if it is, that makes your post even more worthless O_o?
From wikipedia:
"It is a popular misconception that determinism necessarily entails that humanity or individual humans have no influence on the future and its events (a position known as Fatalism)"
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