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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 08 2007 01:56 GMT
#121
On November 08 2007 10:52 haduken wrote:
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On November 08 2007 09:33 jtan wrote:
On November 08 2007 09:31 haduken wrote:
I remember from my lecturer where he said time travel has already being accomplished (depends on how you interpret it i suppose).


...source?


i don't really have a source just something i remember my lecturer at uni said. Basically it has to do with an astronaut from soviet union going to space and coming back 1 second ahead of earth time.

I don't understand how it happened but if you interpret it like my lecturer then that's evidence that time travel has already occured (1 second into the future). Something to do with laws of relativity maybe...

Ah, ok but that is the twin-paradox, it has nothing to do with time travel really. It's just time passing at different rates at different relative speeds. It doesn't cause any real paradoxes, nothing like going back in time.
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 08 2007 05:03 GMT
#122
On November 08 2007 04:39 CrownRoyal wrote:
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On November 08 2007 04:22 skyglow1 wrote:
On November 08 2007 03:55 mahnini wrote:
On November 08 2007 02:39 Never Post wrote:
This sounds remarkably similar to the "does .999... = 1" thing.

People would benefit so much from learning just a bit more maths.

I know I'm late but...

You can't ever reach something if your destination is half the length of the required distance, it makes no sense.

It's more like divide number by two infinitely and expecting it to reach zero.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes#Proposed_solution_using_mathematical_series_notation

I really like this possible solution:


Main article: Planck lenght

Another proposed solution to some of the paradoxes is to consider that space and time are not infinitely divisible. Just because our number system enables us to give a number between any two numbers, it does not necessarily follow that there is a point in space between any two different points in space, and the same goes for time.

If space-time is not infinitely divisible (and thus not perfectly continuous), it is "discrete" (composed of “lumps” and “jumps”). This means that motion is, at the smallest physical level, may be a series of jumps from one quantum space-time coordinate to the next, each occurring over distance and time intervals that are not divisible into smaller measures.[2]

Thus the total number of quantum jumps made while traversing from point A to point B would be finite, and there is no paradox.


Btw the 0.999...=1 can be simply proved:
1/3=0.333...
1/3x3=0.999...
But we know that 1/3x3=1, so 0.999...=1


the thing that I don't like about this argument is that this is a completely different situation, you aren't dealing with 1/3's and your answer with this problem will never be a clean .999...

1/2^infinity =\\= .999 ever, unless you round it.


It's not an argument for 1/2^infitnity = 0. I just gave the proof as a side trivia thing cause alot of people don't accept that 0.999....=1. It didn't mean it as related to the whole zeno's paradox thing.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
November 08 2007 05:06 GMT
#123
On November 08 2007 05:07 CrownRoyal wrote:
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Wikipedia wrote:
[edit] Are space and time infinitely divisible?
Main article: Planck length
Another proposed solution to some of the paradoxes is to consider that space and time are not infinitely divisible. Just because our number system enables us to give a number between any two numbers, it does not necessarily follow that there is a point in space between any two different points in space, and the same goes for time.

If space-time is not infinitely divisible (and thus not perfectly continuous), it is "discrete" (composed of “lumps” and “jumps”). This means that motion is, at the smallest physical level, may be a series of jumps from one quantum space-time coordinate to the next, each occurring over distance and time intervals that are not divisible into smaller measures.[2]

Thus the total number of quantum jumps made while traversing from point A to point B would be finite, and there is no paradox.


wouldn't these lumps just turn into the smallest of numbers in our number system and the whole process is back to normal?


What do you mean?
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 08 2007 05:38 GMT
#124
On November 08 2007 10:55 CrownRoyal wrote:
i was probably the weirdest fucking kid in the world

while other kids were destroying their hotwheels and shit I was thinking about this stupid shit probably at like the age of 9 and onwards.

I'm really not a nerd or all that intelligent though, I just have an incredibly open mind or something. If I really was to guess I'd say my IQ is 115-120


you just gave yourself an above average IQ score, by definition, thats intelligent.
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
November 08 2007 22:35 GMT
#125
On November 08 2007 08:31 urban_attack wrote:
@8players
The problem is we cannot determine everything. It's called the heisenberg uncertainty principle. The act of observation distorts the data so we cannot gather the information we need with 100% accuracy.


True, it's impossible to accurately determine....anything. Therefore the clockwork universe model is bunk, and it's a hard fact to accept. Einstein himself gave the quote "I don't believe that God plays dice" (or something along those lines, too lazy to find the actual quote).

Technically before you measure something it's in a superposition of states. It's a quantum wave function that gives the object a PROBABILITY of being in a certain place, but doesn't rule out the possibility that whatever you're measuring is in, say, the andromeda galaxy. It's unlikely, one in 1^1000 or w/e, but still a possbility. Once you measure said object (by bouncing photons off it or something, which is seeing it), you collapse the wave function of the object and it is observed in 1 single place.

I think thats the way it goes, I've never learned any of this stuff in school so I may have misinterpreted it, i'm sure some smart tl.netter will come along and correct me.
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