EPTAs for black holes, that is merely a colorful choice of wording. It is not a hole, it is a star who's gravity is so powerful that light itself cannot escape. It is a physical presence, not the absence of one. If there were another method to observe a black hole through some other type of perception, you would see it just as any other physical piece of matter, a round ball sucking in everything that comes near it. Jumping into one would only kill you, not send you back or forward in time.
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NewbSaibot
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As for black holes, that is merely a colorful choice of wording. It is not a hole, it is a star who's gravity is so powerful that light itself cannot escape. It is a physical presence, not the absence of one. If there were another method to observe a black hole through some other type of perception, you would see it just as any other physical piece of matter, a round ball sucking in everything that comes near it. Jumping into one would only kill you, not send you back or forward in time. | ||
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sith
United States2474 Posts
How do these ideas work together? Does the universe branch into different possibilities the moment that the quantum decay triggers the bomb that detroys london? Ohhh I think i understand. 4th dimension is that one timeline, where everything is predermined. BUT 5th dimension is the branching of those paths so there is only 1 percieved. sorry if i explained my thoughts bad, i don't understand a lot of what i read very well. does anyone have any advice for learning more about physics? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On November 08 2007 06:36 NewbSaibot wrote: traveling at or faster than the speed of light serves only to create an optical illusion for the traveler. So what if you move faster than a bunch of photons and therefore cannot see a change in motion, that is only a visual ocular perception, it has nothing to do with time. Time still passes as photons travel across the galaxy giving us glimpses of stars billions of years old does it not? When scientists observe a super nova that occured a million years ago does that mean no time passed during the flight of those photons which gave us a view of the super nova? Of course not. As for black holes, that is merely a colorful choice of wording. It is not a hole, it is a star who's gravity is so powerful that light itself cannot escape. It is a physical presence, not the absence of one. If there were another method to observe a black hole through some other type of perception, you would see it just as any other physical piece of matter, a round ball sucking in everything that comes near it. Jumping into one would only kill you, not send you back or forward in time. A black hole is generally not just a heavy star, it's a star that have become so heavy that it has collapsed under it's own gravity, forming a singularity, which pretty much is a point in space. When you talk of a black hole you mean the singularity + the space around it that light can not escape. So you wouldn't really "see" the black hole using any type of perception. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity | ||
Liquid`Daaman
Sweden1225 Posts
It represents time by a line? How did time become a line? Just because they bend that line they bend time? It's just down to what they define as being a dimension. They said it was to describe all possible states the universe possibly be in. How is that in any way related to bending time? Seriously someone smarter than me, explain =o | ||
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Folca
2235 Posts
On November 08 2007 01:38 Never Post wrote: What do you mean by this? The video clearly states we reach a dead end at the tenth dimension when infinity of time and universes has been reached. Your so retarded, do you not know what infinity means? Infinity means that it reaches NO END It goes on FOREVER No matter what, god, so ignorant and stubborn | ||
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Never Post
United Kingdom503 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On November 08 2007 07:42 Liquid`Daaman wrote: Yeah that cannot be taken seriously in any way even if I wanted to. Even if some genius had some kick ass physics discoveries which could actually prove some possibility of bending time, he would have to explain it in a more stringent way than that video. It represents time by a line? How did time become a line? Just because they bend that line they bend time? It's just down to what they define as being a dimension. They said it was to describe all possible states the universe possibly be in. How is that in any way related to bending time? Seriously someone smarter than me, explain =o There's a lot of theories about these things, and there's a lot of discussions going on. This video was probably just showing one theory and was not supposed to represent some final truth from the whole scientific community  To me it looks like they are accepting that you can just bend space and time dimensions too easily, but I havn't read much about these things. | ||
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8players
United States208 Posts
On November 08 2007 02:32 CrownRoyal wrote: although this is off topic concerning the OP i think i understand this and may even be able to further make sense of this idea. i don't have much knowledge in any type of "advanced" physics(or any type of science for that matter) that could prove me wrong so i could be totally wrong about anything i say here, but i'll speak as if i'm right just for the sake of easily typing out my thoughts. i think the idea of the world being run by "equations" therefore disproving freewill is just a small portion of another "bigger idea". our perception of free will is actually product of what chemicals in our brain tell us to do. through our upbringings our brains are "programmed" to feel certain ways and act on certain situations. the way your brain runs/reacts is actually a product of your upbringings. Upbringings include parents(who have their own upbringings from an enormous amount of other upbringings/grandparents), other people(who also have their own lines of upbringings), and environmental events(which even the simplest events such as a breeze can be explained through science). All of these factor in to help build/teach the reactions of our brains. then the arguement arises, "well i have free will so i can, just this second, decide that i wanna start jumping up and down". somebody would say that's free will but in reality it isnt. the whole idea of wanting to do something "randomly" isnt actually random as chemicals and w/e else goes on in our brains tells us what to do. "In conclusion: My hypothesis is that it is possible to create an equation that will lay out the path of any man's life and if this is possible, free will is nonexistent and life isn't quite as magical as one might expect." i believe this theoretically can be done if you consider all the factors that need to be taken into account and have an unlimited data on pretty much everyhing(which leads to an endless amount of equations as you would need an "equation" for every single person in the world, every single environmental change that will occur, and then all the information about people's and the environment's interactions with each other) sorry for the long post(i didnt mean it to be this long but i just kept going) i hope it's understandable. but in summation, we're all pretty much a product of our environment which is a product of the environment before it which is a product of the environment before that one and so on all the way back to who knows how long ago. therefore disproving free will. [edit] to help better explain my thoughts. the reason such an idea would be outrageous is that there's an endless amount of constants in the world and all that information and the out come of their reaction with each other would need to factored into predicting anything. Think of the world as a huge controlled environment in a scientific expirement. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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urban_attack
Poland88 Posts
The problem is we cannot determine everything. It's called the heisenberg uncertainty principle. The act of observation distorts the data so we cannot gather the information we need with 100% accuracy. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On November 08 2007 07:39 jtan wrote: A black hole is generally not just a heavy star, it's a star that have become so heavy that it has collapsed under it's own gravity, forming a singularity, which pretty much is a point in space. When you talk of a black hole you mean the singularity + the space around it that light can not escape. So you wouldn't really "see" the black hole using any type of perception. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity I imagine a black hole to be a very unstable looking ball that sorta looks like a pool of oil pulsing and splatting about in all directions. Almost like its trying to explode outward but can't. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13414 Posts
On November 08 2007 07:46 Folca wrote: Your so retarded... ...god, so ignorant and stubborn -____- | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
http://www.johntitor.com/ Many threads made on this site about it. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On November 08 2007 09:31 haduken wrote: I remember from my lecturer where he said time travel has already being accomplished (depends on how you interpret it i suppose). ...source? | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
i don't really have a source just something i remember my lecturer at uni said. Basically it has to do with an astronaut from soviet union going to space and coming back 1 second ahead of earth time. I don't understand how it happened but if you interpret it like my lecturer then that's evidence that time travel has already occured (1 second into the future). Something to do with laws of relativity maybe... | ||
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
while other kids were destroying their hotwheels and shit I was thinking about this stupid shit probably at like the age of 9 and onwards. I'm really not a nerd or all that intelligent though, I just have an incredibly open mind or something. If I really was to guess I'd say my IQ is 115-120 | ||
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