I don't know what the definition of authoritarian government is in your eyes。 I think Belarus is an authoritarian government, Saudi Arabia is an authoritarian government, and Thailand is also an authoritarian government. But European and American countries treat them differently.Not every authoritarian government will be punished. Authoritarian governments can also be friends and partners of Europe and the United States. The communication between countries is only driven by the relationship of interests, and there is no forever friend or forever enemy. When the Soviet Union needed China to confront the United States, China and the Soviet Union were friends and China and the United States were enemies. When the United States needs China to confront the Soviet Union, China and the United States are friends and China and the Soviet Union are enemies. Now the trade war between China and the United States is very fierce, and Russia and the United States are also enemies, which has prompted China and Russia to unite. But directly invading another sovereign country is a very bad thing, and the continuous slaughter is despised by people. So for the war between Russia and Ukraine, China will not vote for Russia, but will not oppose it, either abstain or be neutral. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chinese companies acquired Ukraine's madasic company, and Trump's national security adviser Bolton personally landed in Ukraine by plane. After landing on the plane, he publicly ordered the Ukrainian government to prevent the acquisition of Chinese enterprises. Zelensky agreed to all the requirements put forward by Bolton and ordered the national department to stop approving the cooperation projects between Chinese and Ukrainian enterprises! In December 2020, Tianjiao company filed its first lawsuit against the Ukrainian government at the Permanent Court of arbitration in the Hague, demanding to compensate the Chinese side for the loss of $3.6 billion in accordance with the contract for its violation of the commercial contract! This is a contradiction between the Chinese government and the Ukrainian government that I know
Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.
It is true that western nations also work with authoritarian nations. I think this is problematic, but probably unavoidable. The reason people are currently opposing Russia is not because it is authoritarian. It is because Russia started an unprovoked war of aggression against another independent nation.
You try to build some weird Realpolitik picture here, when the truth is pretty simple. Every nation which is interested in an international order based on some kind of law, and where wars of aggression do not happen, needs to be opposed to Russia right now.
I have no clue why you start talking about the acquisition of some company in Ukraine through chinese companies now, and i am not really interested in that segway.
News today,China's top chipmaker achieves breakthrough despite US curbs. SMIC has started shipping 7nm chips, TechInsights says US suppliers need licenses to ship most advanced gear to SMIC
So, it seems cursing on china doesn't bring anything good.
CCP is now sending tanks to quell the protests (will we see the repeat of Tienanmen?) as problems escalate. In general it seems that Chinese economy is on the big downturn now as plenty of rich people want to flee China.
Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.
It is true that western nations also work with authoritarian nations. I think this is problematic, but probably unavoidable. The reason people are currently opposing Russia is not because it is authoritarian. It is because Russia started an unprovoked war of aggression against another independent nation.
You try to build some weird Realpolitik picture here, when the truth is pretty simple. Every nation which is interested in an international order based on some kind of law, and where wars of aggression do not happen, needs to be opposed to Russia right now.
I have no clue why you start talking about the acquisition of some company in Ukraine through chinese companies now, and i am not really interested in that segway.
International law is mostly enforced on small countries. Great powers use it when it suits them, and flout them when it doesn't. The case of Russia is particularly egregious, but I don't think Russia ever thought international law would bind them if they needed to do something. Neither would the US. They invaded Iraq despite it being completely illegal to do so.
Authoritarianism is a form of government characterized by the rejection of political plurality, the use of strong central power to preserve the political status quo, and reductions in the rule of law, separation of powers, and democratic voting.
It is true that western nations also work with authoritarian nations. I think this is problematic, but probably unavoidable. The reason people are currently opposing Russia is not because it is authoritarian. It is because Russia started an unprovoked war of aggression against another independent nation.
You try to build some weird Realpolitik picture here, when the truth is pretty simple. Every nation which is interested in an international order based on some kind of law, and where wars of aggression do not happen, needs to be opposed to Russia right now.
I have no clue why you start talking about the acquisition of some company in Ukraine through chinese companies now, and i am not really interested in that segway.
International law is mostly enforced on small countries. Great powers use it when it suits them, and flout it when it doesn't. The case of Russia is particularly egregious, but I don't think Russia ever thought international law would bind them if they needed to do something. Neither would the US. They invaded Iraq despite it being completely illegal to do so.
Sure, i am aware of that. International law is not really law, because there is no mechanism to enforce it upon an unwilling big country.
And yet the post-WW2 world is still a pretty good thing in general. No major wars between big countries in more than 70 years. That is basically something that is completely unheard of. The general shunning of accepting territorial expansion as a reason for war. Stuff is by far not optimal, but it is still better than anything we had before.
Will Pelosi visit Taiwan and Is that a wise decision, given the threats from "forceful measures" from China If that happens? Biden's administration and the Pentagon are against the visit:
"The Biden administration’s dispute with Speaker Nancy Pelosi over her planned trip to Taiwan next month spilled into public view this week when the president himself asserted that the military “thinks it’s not a good idea right now.”"
Surely the whole point of telling her not to go is to preempt any Chinese protest. She’s not a member of the Biden administration and Biden publicly asked her not to go. China can’t complain about the US position being aligned with their own. What Pelosi does is her own business.
I think, we chinese, unlike the japnese, don't have a desire to expand.
You may think that, but you are incorrect. Taiwan.
Every nation who established diplomatic relations with China agreed on the premise that taiwan is part of china, that is the so called One-China principle. Noone forced your country to establish a diplomatic relation with us. If one day your foreign minister declared that taiwan is not part of china, then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. When Mao's army crushed the old goverment, they flee to taiwan, not japan,not korea,not mongolia.... is it because taiwan was chinese territory or it was a free land? Learn some history. Japan launched the Jiawu War（1895） of aggression against China and forced Qing Government to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki, ceding Taiwan to Japan. So you call a taking back of your own land is expansion? None of the American main politicians ever dare to say that, I would like to bet 50euros on that ,if Biden were to declare that taiwan is not part of china, then in the next 48hours, red flags would be all over the island. Howdareyou.jpg
Ah, the peaceful chinese people who absolutely have no interest in expanding. And yet immediately there are threats of violence. Or what else is "then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. " supposed to mean.
Of course, it is easy to declare that you have no desire to expand when you can simply claim that whatever you would be expanding to is already a part of china.
And yeah, if Germany intended to "take back" its old land, like Königsberg, Alsace-Lorraine or Deutsch-Südwestafrika for example, that would also be aggressive expansion.
The current status quo with Taiwan is that it is factually an independent country, but the PRC is bullying everyone into playing some stupid charade where they act as if they are not. And if the PRC believed that it could take over Taiwan without american intervention, it would do so in seconds.
I bolded your wrongth( in my opinion). I meant, when diplomatic relationship is gone, all bussiness are gone, and 99% Germans living in China are bussiness related, so when there's no more bussiness why do they stay? I didn't mean their lives will be in danger. keonigsberg/alsace-lorraine is a different concept, you contry signed to give up these lands, and you were defeated in WWI&2, Japan can not claim to take back taiwan,not China. We do have the ability to take over Taiwan in seconds even with american intervention, but TW seems like a trap, we must consider carefully to choose the timing. The U.S utilize Taiwan as a chesspiece to contain China, while we are making it an useless one.
According to our propaganda, The euro/dollar exchange rate dropped over 10% since the war, and european politicians advised people to take less shower against higher gas price.I don't know if it is exaggerated, but it seems to me europeans paid alot for the sanctions on russia too.
I think, we chinese, unlike the japnese, don't have a desire to expand.
You may think that, but you are incorrect. Taiwan.
Every nation who established diplomatic relations with China agreed on the premise that taiwan is part of china, that is the so called One-China principle. Noone forced your country to establish a diplomatic relation with us. If one day your foreign minister declared that taiwan is not part of china, then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. When Mao's army crushed the old goverment, they flee to taiwan, not japan,not korea,not mongolia.... is it because taiwan was chinese territory or it was a free land? Learn some history. Japan launched the Jiawu War（1895） of aggression against China and forced Qing Government to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki, ceding Taiwan to Japan. So you call a taking back of your own land is expansion? None of the American main politicians ever dare to say that, I would like to bet 50euros on that ,if Biden were to declare that taiwan is not part of china, then in the next 48hours, red flags would be all over the island. Howdareyou.jpg
Ah, the peaceful chinese people who absolutely have no interest in expanding. And yet immediately there are threats of violence. Or what else is "then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. " supposed to mean.
Of course, it is easy to declare that you have no desire to expand when you can simply claim that whatever you would be expanding to is already a part of china.
And yeah, if Germany intended to "take back" its old land, like Königsberg, Alsace-Lorraine or Deutsch-Südwestafrika for example, that would also be aggressive expansion.
The current status quo with Taiwan is that it is factually an independent country, but the PRC is bullying everyone into playing some stupid charade where they act as if they are not. And if the PRC believed that it could take over Taiwan without american intervention, it would do so in seconds.
I bolded your wrongth( in my opinion). I meant, when diplomatic relationship is gone, all bussiness are gone, and 99% Germans living in China are bussiness related, so when there's no more bussiness why do they stay? I didn't mean their lives will be in danger. keonigsberg/alsace-lorraine is a different concept, you contry signed to give up these lands, and you were defeated in WWI&2, Japan can not claim to take back taiwan,not China. We do have the ability to take over Taiwan in seconds even with american intervention, but TW seems like a trap, we must consider carefully to choose the timing. The U.S utilize Taiwan as a chesspiece to contain China, while we are making it an useless one.
I’m amazed that you could believe such foolish things. PRC has no ability to cross the straits to attack ROC. It is not a naval power to rival the forces left in place in the straits by the US. You might as well say that ROC could take over PRC in seconds. It would be just as true.
Were PRC stupid enough to try their ships would be casually sunk by a US carrier fleet. Were PRC somehow able to destroy a carrier fleet the war would turn nuclear. PRC lacks true second strike capability, it would be able to make a US victory expensive but would be obliterated for its trouble.
You have been hitting the opium too hard my friend. PRC is not a naval power and amphibious assaults are exceptionally difficult even with naval supremacy.
Speaking of things goverment are supposed to do, the ccp agreed to not meddle into internal affairs in Hong Kong until 2047. They have broken their promise, setting up a puppet goverment, taking over the legislation process and bringing under Beijing influence, and making sure that key authority figures are selected instead of democratically elected by the people, to exercise the ccp program of transition to bring Hong Kong under regime control.
the ccp should leave Hong Kong and let it be a free independent nation. People from Hong Kong consider themselves Chinese, but want nothing to do with the dystopic goverment that is the ccp.
And speaking of invasions, the only foreign nation the ccp has has invaded and occupied is Tibet, which notoriously never had a standing army, refusing violence as a resolution.
I think, we chinese, unlike the japnese, don't have a desire to expand.
You may think that, but you are incorrect. Taiwan.
Every nation who established diplomatic relations with China agreed on the premise that taiwan is part of china, that is the so called One-China principle. Noone forced your country to establish a diplomatic relation with us. If one day your foreign minister declared that taiwan is not part of china, then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. When Mao's army crushed the old goverment, they flee to taiwan, not japan,not korea,not mongolia.... is it because taiwan was chinese territory or it was a free land? Learn some history. Japan launched the Jiawu War（1895） of aggression against China and forced Qing Government to sign the Treaty of Shimonoseki, ceding Taiwan to Japan. So you call a taking back of your own land is expansion? None of the American main politicians ever dare to say that, I would like to bet 50euros on that ,if Biden were to declare that taiwan is not part of china, then in the next 48hours, red flags would be all over the island. Howdareyou.jpg
Ah, the peaceful chinese people who absolutely have no interest in expanding. And yet immediately there are threats of violence. Or what else is "then I would advice all the germans living in china pack up to fly back homeland. " supposed to mean.
Of course, it is easy to declare that you have no desire to expand when you can simply claim that whatever you would be expanding to is already a part of china.
And yeah, if Germany intended to "take back" its old land, like Königsberg, Alsace-Lorraine or Deutsch-Südwestafrika for example, that would also be aggressive expansion.
The current status quo with Taiwan is that it is factually an independent country, but the PRC is bullying everyone into playing some stupid charade where they act as if they are not. And if the PRC believed that it could take over Taiwan without american intervention, it would do so in seconds.
I bolded your wrongth( in my opinion). I meant, when diplomatic relationship is gone, all bussiness are gone, and 99% Germans living in China are bussiness related, so when there's no more bussiness why do they stay? I didn't mean their lives will be in danger. keonigsberg/alsace-lorraine is a different concept, you contry signed to give up these lands, and you were defeated in WWI&2, Japan can not claim to take back taiwan,not China. We do have the ability to take over Taiwan in seconds even with american intervention, but TW seems like a trap, we must consider carefully to choose the timing. The U.S utilize Taiwan as a chesspiece to contain China, while we are making it an useless one.
I’m amazed that you could believe such foolish things. PRC has no ability to cross the straits to attack ROC. It is not a naval power to rival the forces left in place in the straits by the US. You might as well say that ROC could take over PRC in seconds. It would be just as true.
Were PRC stupid enough to try their ships would be casually sunk by a US carrier fleet. Were PRC somehow able to destroy a carrier fleet the war would turn nuclear. PRC lacks true second strike capability, it would be able to make a US victory expensive but would be obliterated for its trouble.
You have been hitting the opium too hard my friend. PRC is not a naval power and amphibious assaults are exceptionally difficult even with naval supremacy.
Ah that's very interesting, I'm also amazed that you don't believe PLA has the ability to take the island in seconds. Our main artillery is type PHL-03, which has a horrible 480KM range(not 48). We have a 60thousands men airborne force , 3 elite divisions. Our missles and planes will block everything enters east china sea.We have 270 H-6 bombers and we are soon to declare H-20 stragetic stealth bomber whose performance is believed to surpass B21 or LRS-B. We have prepared for 70 years to take it.....think about it ,man. If you check on taiwanese forums you will find no twainese thinks they can hold 24hours if we decided to take some action. I don't where do you get the impression that mere US carrier fleets can stop us now. It's not in the 1990s, it's 2020s now.
We don't use opiums, holding any drug or weed is enough to put you in jail and 50grams heroin will arrange you meet a bullet. I guess we are quite a serious country on the things we about to do.
On July 25 2022 12:28 winteriscoming wrote: According to our propaganda, The euro/dollar exchange rate dropped over 10% since the war, and european politicians advised people to take less shower against higher gas price.I don't know if it is exaggerated, but it seems to me europeans paid alot for the sanctions on russia too.
All of those statements are false. And I think you might be confusing exchange rates with inflation that is affecting everyone and doesn't have that much to do with the war.
On July 25 2022 17:42 winteriscoming wrote: Ah that's very interesting, I'm also amazed that you don't believe PLA has the ability to take the island in seconds. Our main artillery is type PHL-03, which has a horrible 480KM range(not 48). We have a 60thousands men airborne force , 3 elite divisions. Our missles and planes will block everything enters east china sea.We have 270 H-6 bombers and we are soon to declare H-20 stragetic stealth bomber whose performance is believed to surpass B21 or LRS-B. We have prepared for 70 years to take it.....think about it ,man. If you check on taiwanese forums you will find no twainese thinks they can hold 24hours if we decided to take some action. I don't where do you get the impression that mere US carrier fleets can stop us now. It's not in the 1990s, it's 2020s now.
Russia also thought they had all the good stuff and could take Ukraine in the matter of days. Look where they are now...
EPT
