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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
March 19 2023 11:30 GMT
#8101
It is a somewhat interesting question. I am not sure he could offer me enough money to outweigh the negatives: live in Russia, threat on my life, likely boring patient with high 5 year mortality risk, career ending move (except for continously treating the worlds dictators).
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria843 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-19 11:48:30
March 19 2023 11:46 GMT
#8102
You guys should stop speculating about Putin's health and lifespan. It's all rumours at this point and not really productive anyway. Other Kremlin elites aren't much better (Prigozhin, Medvedev, etc), so that's why. You need a real, big change at Kremlin to see results and I doubt it's going to happen soon. Not unless food starts disappearing from the table at ordinary Russian citizens' homes.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
March 19 2023 16:07 GMT
#8103
I agree about not speculating about his health but access to western medicine is a big deal that hes being stripped from. I don't think that you can import the kind of medical infrastructure that the mayo clinic provides nor do I think that you are going to get the best of the best to move to russia. There is a very very very long tail to any doctor that you are in contact with at a john hopkins. Sure the frontline people you can pay a few mil for a year in a swiss bank but why would a dna sequencing technician or an radiological technician be persuaded to go to a country you have no freedoms in and can't talk about your boring work?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4613 Posts
March 19 2023 21:36 GMT
#8104
On March 20 2023 01:07 Sermokala wrote:
I agree about not speculating about his health but access to western medicine is a big deal that hes being stripped from. I don't think that you can import the kind of medical infrastructure that the mayo clinic provides nor do I think that you are going to get the best of the best to move to russia. There is a very very very long tail to any doctor that you are in contact with at a john hopkins. Sure the frontline people you can pay a few mil for a year in a swiss bank but why would a dna sequencing technician or an radiological technician be persuaded to go to a country you have no freedoms in and can't talk about your boring work?


Russia is not a third world country and necessary equipment was already there. I don't think he will fly like some African dictator.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 20 2023 18:17 GMT
#8105
Yeah, between China, India, Russia, and a few developed countries that are less strictly sanctioning Russia, I don't see Putin ever having any less than the highest level of care, or at least the top 0.1% of care. It is true that certain doctors really are the kings of their field, but that is the difference between rank 1 and rank 10. Not the difference between rank 1 and poverty.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 20 2023 22:41 GMT
#8106
Ukraine has launched strikes into Crimea.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
March 21 2023 00:29 GMT
#8107
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
March 21 2023 00:38 GMT
#8108
Any further victory by the Azerbaijani however threatens to cut off Iran from russia. If Iran goes north Than you could easily see Turkyie coming east. They've certainly bolstered the Azerbaijani military with their equipment and showed off their TB-2's for the first time in their last war between the two.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2773 Posts
March 21 2023 08:55 GMT
#8109
On March 21 2023 09:38 Sermokala wrote:
Any further victory by the Azerbaijani however threatens to cut off Iran from russia. If Iran goes north Than you could easily see Turkyie coming east. They've certainly bolstered the Azerbaijani military with their equipment and showed off their TB-2's for the first time in their last war between the two.


Still have boats?
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 23 2023 13:46 GMT
#8110
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
March 23 2023 15:24 GMT
#8111
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65028217

Another BBC article from the front lines, this time from Velyka Novosilka rather than Bakhmut.

Even here the Ukrainians are talking about Russia losing whole brigades.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5807 Posts
March 25 2023 13:01 GMT
#8112
Some new developments regarding the Nord Stream attack. An investigation by t-online.de, not sure how credible they are.

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/aussenpolitik/id_100149758/nord-stream-sabotage-russian-tracks.html

Summary by ChatGPT, after a lot of prodding. :-P

The article reports on an alleged incident involving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which carries natural gas from Russia to Germany. According to anonymous sources cited in the article, a group of divers planted explosive devices on the pipeline in an attempt to sabotage it. The sources suggest that the divers were working on behalf of a foreign intelligence service, possibly Ukraine. However, the article notes that there is no concrete evidence to support these allegations.

The article provides details on the ships that were allegedly involved in the operation. One of the most important ships, according to the article, was the submarine support ship "SS-750", which carries a deep-submergence rescue vehicle named "AS-26" that can evacuate the crew of crashed submarines in an emergency. The article also notes that two other ships suspected of being involved in the operation, the rescue tugs "SB-123" and "Alexander Frolov", left the port of Kaliningrad around the same time frame as the alleged incident. These ships reportedly have cargo cranes on deck that could lower heavy explosive devices or mines into the water. The article notes that the allegations of sabotage come at a time of heightened tensions between Russia and Ukraine, and amid concerns about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and its potential impact on European energy security and geopolitics.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
March 25 2023 13:22 GMT
#8113
Is russian state tv still talking about the special millitary operation? And are they still saying it's going according to plan?
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4613 Posts
March 26 2023 11:47 GMT
#8114
On March 25 2023 22:22 sertas wrote:
Is russian state tv still talking about the special millitary operation? And are they still saying it's going according to plan?


I think they will switch to the narrative that they managed to hold and avoid the attack of Ukraine against Russia and that Ukraine was always planning on invading Crimea and joining Nato and that they succeeded even if the cost was high.

Actually, if they stop now, it is a political nightmare. You don't want to give Russia 5 years to rebuild a modern army, right?
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Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany572 Posts
March 26 2023 13:09 GMT
#8115
On March 25 2023 22:01 maybenexttime wrote:
Some new developments regarding the Nord Stream attack. An investigation by t-online.de, not sure how credible they are.

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/aussenpolitik/id_100149758/nord-stream-sabotage-russian-tracks.html

Summary by ChatGPT, after a lot of prodding. :-P

Show nested quote +
The article reports on an alleged incident involving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which carries natural gas from Russia to Germany. According to anonymous sources cited in the article, a group of divers planted explosive devices on the pipeline in an attempt to sabotage it. The sources suggest that the divers were working on behalf of a foreign intelligence service, possibly Ukraine. However, the article notes that there is no concrete evidence to support these allegations.

The article provides details on the ships that were allegedly involved in the operation. One of the most important ships, according to the article, was the submarine support ship "SS-750", which carries a deep-submergence rescue vehicle named "AS-26" that can evacuate the crew of crashed submarines in an emergency. The article also notes that two other ships suspected of being involved in the operation, the rescue tugs "SB-123" and "Alexander Frolov", left the port of Kaliningrad around the same time frame as the alleged incident. These ships reportedly have cargo cranes on deck that could lower heavy explosive devices or mines into the water. The article notes that the allegations of sabotage come at a time of heightened tensions between Russia and Ukraine, and amid concerns about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and its potential impact on European energy security and geopolitics.


If the question is if they are credible in the sense of doing their due diligence before publishing, then I would say they are. They can get things wrong of course, as any newssource can. I would rate them lower than ARD/Zeit/Times/whatever other big name newspaper, which also is reflected in the writing style I'd say.

The article notes that the allegations of sabotage come at a time of heightened tensions between Russia and Ukraine, and amid concerns about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and its potential impact on European energy security and geopolitics.


I guess that is one way to describe it. The marvels of AI, that one had me crack a smile. Playing it very safe there with the summary.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5807 Posts
March 26 2023 14:30 GMT
#8116
Initially, the AI kept insisting that the primary suspects were the alleged Ukrainians renting that boat because it missed half of the article. It didn't parse anything below that Facebook ad or whatever it is. ;-)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-26 21:19:07
March 26 2023 21:12 GMT
#8117
So now we know the reason why the Ukraine high command did not want to give up Bakhmut. They were bleeding Russia white not only of recently mobilized forces but whatever is left of regular ones as well. Now Russia appears to having to try and go on a defensive stance for the time being.




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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14113 Posts
March 26 2023 22:42 GMT
#8118
They changed focus onto the south and threw in significant armored reserves into the Avdiivka breakthrough. They were looking like they had a chance to encircle the city thats been under siege for the past 8 years but Ukraine was able to respond and rebuild their defensive lines.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
March 26 2023 23:54 GMT
#8119
This winter offensive has been very costly for Russia for minimal gain. We'll see if the cost differential has been large enough that Ukraine can punch through somewhere. Russian lines are better fortified, shorter and better manned than in the last Ukrainian offensives.

It isn't easy to advance without total air or artillery dominance. Even with them it can be hard due to mines and fortifications.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43968 Posts
March 27 2023 00:35 GMT
#8120
+ Show Spoiler [nsfw combat footage] +
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/122xdse/tactical_overview_and_full_footage_of_the_failed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

This was remarkable. Trenches, drone guided artillery, armoured reserve.
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