EPTAnyway,i don't mind that much. My own political position would be left of Bernie sanders,i am not a trump supporter by any means. Just to clear that up.
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pmh
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Anyway,i don't mind that much. My own political position would be left of Bernie sanders,i am not a trump supporter by any means. Just to clear that up. | ||
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Slaughter
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:43 pmh wrote: Media is everything that provides people with information. I don't know how else to call it but I am open to suggestions. The media is literally all entertainment, news, fiction, non fiction theather and so on. You refer to a wide variety of publications and networks as if they are some monolithic agency. Name specific publications and news agencies you think are bias and why. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:43 pmh wrote: Media is everything that provides people with information. I don't know how else to call it but I am open to suggestions. Anyway,i don't mind that much. My own political position would be left of Bernie sanders,i am not a trump supporter by any means. Just to clear that up. I like to refer to it as the "'news' industry". | ||
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pmh
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All common sense will be lost. But that's enough for now,curious what will happen the 6th. Instead of media I will use "news media" though I do think that the whole range of media influences people,including social networks and even comedy tv shows. But that is nothing new and it has been so for a long time. I will try to not mention it anymore,even though I think its good to be aware of now and then. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: we currently are holding children in concentration camps, so I’m not sure it could be much worse with the party that wants to stop that in charge of congress. | ||
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Zambrah
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:49 pmh wrote: When democrats win you get all the trump drama that you got during the past 2 years but then 10 times worse. All common sense will be lost. But that's enough for now,curious what will happen the 6th. Instead of media I will use "news media" though I do think that the whole range of media influences people,including social networks and even comedy tv shows. But that is nothing new and it has been so for a long time. I will try to not mention it anymore,even though I think its good to be aware of now and then. Or maybe Trump could just stop causing drama. Ever think of that one? | ||
micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:49 pmh wrote: When democrats win you get all the trump drama that you got during the past 2 years but then 10 times worse. All common sense will be lost. What Trump drama are you talking about? Those times when Trump did ridiculous things and then people reacted, or those times when Trump did fairly reasonable things and people overreacted? I think you are being intentionally vague to imply the latter because deep down you know the former was far more prevalent and its actually the incumbent republican majority who is more responsible for allowing Trump to cause all the drama. If Congress checked the president's actions (even softly), there would be less for the non-republicans to get upset about. To me you are making an argument for voting in more non-republicans. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:49 pmh wrote: When democrats win you get all the trump drama that you got during the past 2 years but then 10 times worse. All common sense will be lost. But that's enough for now,curious what will happen the 6th. Instead of media I will use "news media" though I do think that the whole range of media influences people,including social networks and even comedy tv shows. But that is nothing new and it has been so for a long time. I will try to not mention it anymore,even though I think its good to be aware of now and then. I'm sorry but all common sense in this country was lost the day donny dipshit was elected president. All we can do now is vote the republicans out of office and never let them anywhere near power again to try and fix the damage that they have done. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Sorry, I run on a little bit when I encounter pure 100% bullshit. | ||
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RealityIsKing
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User was temp banned for posting here when thread banned. | ||
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micronesia
United States24805 Posts
On November 02 2018 10:13 RealityIsKing wrote: I think it will be awesome to see the Republicans retaining their control on things. Why? This seems like a pointless troll/bait post. | ||
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Slydie
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On November 02 2018 10:17 micronesia wrote: Why? This seems like a pointless troll/bait post. Because they would nowhere to run from responsability for everything that goes wrong. | ||
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brian
United States9643 Posts
On November 02 2018 08:38 pmh wrote: Its not meant as bait,it is actually serious but if it offends that much I will remove it. It was written a bit provocative,thats a bad habbit of me but the intention was not bad. Its true,the media do have a huge influence on elections. I thought it was kinda interesting to mention it with all the fuzz about rusian adds. Do people even realize how much influence their own media has on elections? And then specially when it is very biased reporting day in day out.That has an enormous impact. (am seriously here btw,not baiting) Both sides do this no doubt so it is not meant to put the blame on anyone, its something that is good to be aware off. Maybe its a flaw in the system. The flaw being that the system relies on people making an educated vote,but the education of the people (which for many people is that what the media provides) is anything but educated and objective. how do you reconcile this with the fact that statistically, uneducated voters vote republican? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On November 02 2018 18:57 brian wrote: how do you reconcile this with the fact that statistically, uneducated voters vote republican? You are using the word 'educated' to mean something different. pmh is saying that the system relies on people knowing what they are voting for, and how their vote will affect them, not that people went to a good school or got a degree. | ||
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brian
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Excludos
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On November 02 2018 08:38 pmh wrote: The flaw being that the system relies on people making an educated vote,but the education of the people (which for many people is that what the media provides) is anything but educated and objective. You know I agree with this (provided we're talking about information and not education). I just think we wildly disagree about which part of the media we think is biased and to what degree. I for one think that while most news outlets have bias, most of them are at least attempting (and sometimes failing) to not stray too far from neutrality. Fox News on the other hand is a propaganda machine which fabricated 90% of their stories on purpose to scare people into thinking immigrants are coming to murder you. And let's not get started on Infowars. There are also news outlets which does provide near unbiased articles if you just seek them out. Politifacts for instance. And I am really struggling to understand anyone willing to seek these unbiased outlets and reading through their articles can somehow come to the conclusion that Trump/Republicans are doing a good job. When every outlet (unbiased or otherwise) paints you in a bad picture except for your own propaganda machines, it's time to look closer at the picture. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
Its hard to talk about the media as a whole because of the influence of individual journalists, but its the pattern I have seen from reading the BBC News website, The Guardian, and various other UK news outlets. They differ in their political leanings but generally will all unite to defend what they see as the common thread that unites them all (the belief that our capitalist, global society is generally good). | ||
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pmh
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Almost all the media are biased to some extend,some more then others. My benchmark for usa media is cnn which I have on the cable here. It is not the best benchmark,cnn is throwing everything they got against trump. Maybe 50% of time on cnn is spend on coverage that can be described as anti trump. Doesn't mean that it is false, I could report very negatively about democrats without being wrong. Simply pick out all the bad things and don't report the good things. Other media are probably not as extreme as cnn is with this,and there are also media who give a similar one sided positive vieuw about trump. It goes both ways. There are objective media,but they are not the most popular media. Majority of population in the usa doesn't get their world vieuw from those media I think. The impact of the mainstream pulp media on the opinion of a large part of the population is quiet big and the influence of the sensible media is declining. Cnn for example has always been rather sensible and objective in my experience.even during the bush years. Now they have gone crazy. Everything is getting more and more extreme,maybe its a struggle to retain influence I don't know. | ||
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