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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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KwarK
United States44442 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46692 Posts
On November 26 2021 10:17 Introvert wrote: Re: general russiagate issues. Thr reason it matters is not because Trump is some great guy but because the whole issue, and the dossier is particular was used to hamstring a duly elected president right off the start, keep competent individuals out of the administration, burden the president's advisors with ridiculous legal issues based on bunk, and generally hinder the functioning of the executive branch. It also contributed to the "divisiveness" Democrats spend so much time complaining about. Can you please elaborate on this? It sounds to me like you're saying that Trump had to settle for appointing friends, family, and idiots like his kids or Betsy DeVos because of Democrats somehow blocking him from appointing qualified staff and secretaries. How can Trump's nepotism be the fault of those who oppose him? | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 26 2021 12:28 JimmiC wrote: Do you think its part of the lefts plot to destroy thanks giving? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/markets/lara-trump-claims-rising-turkey-prices-is-part-of-a-left-wing-plot-to-destroy-thanksgiving/ar-AAR7TQS?li=AAggNb9  + Show Spoiler + i resisted is long as I could but this shit is so comical Back in my day the price of turkey was $1.50 a gallon! Dang big turkey companies, jacking up the price of a barrel of turkey just because they can. These rising turkey prices are all Biden's fault. | ||
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Introvert
United States5090 Posts
On November 26 2021 19:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Can you please elaborate on this? It sounds to me like you're saying that Trump had to settle for appointing friends, family, and idiots like his kids or Betsy DeVos because of Democrats somehow blocking him from appointing qualified staff and secretaries. How can Trump's nepotism be the fault of those who oppose him? I mean that, because of the salacious scandals about Trump being a Russian plant, or the Mueller investigation having free reign to harass and run up legal costs for various officials that many people who would have otherwise jumped at the chance to take jobs in the White House stayed away, leading to less than satisfactory individuals taking those jobs instead. It was a few years ago now so I don't recall exactly who but part of the problem is a sort of chilling effect. It might tip the balance for someone against taking the job when they would have otherwise. I don't know how many cabinet level officials this applied to but imagine if Barr hadn't been willing to take the AG job... I think this concern mostly applies to mid-level and lower level staffing, even for positions that don't require senate confirmation. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On November 27 2021 03:11 Introvert wrote: I love to imagine a world where Barr didn't take the AG job. We might have had a DoJ that didn't serve as the Presidents personal lawyer. I mean that, because of the salacious scandals about Trump being a Russian plant, or the Mueller investigation having free reign to harass and run up legal costs for various officials that many people who would have otherwise jumped at the chance to take jobs in the White House stayed away, leading to less than satisfactory individuals taking those jobs instead. It was a few years ago now so I don't recall exactly who but part of the problem is a sort of chilling effect. It might tip the balance for someone against taking the job when they would have otherwise. I don't know how many cabinet level officials this applied to but imagine if Barr hadn't been willing to take the AG job... I think this concern mostly applies to mid-level and lower level staffing, even for positions that don't require senate confirmation. Besides, Barr didn't get selected for his qualifications but because he wrote an opinion piece where he directly told Trump that he would refuse to indict him if chosen as AG. | ||
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KwarK
United States44442 Posts
On November 27 2021 03:11 Introvert wrote: I mean that, because of the salacious scandals about Trump being a Russian plant, or the Mueller investigation having free reign to harass and run up legal costs for various officials that many people who would have otherwise jumped at the chance to take jobs in the White House stayed away, leading to less than satisfactory individuals taking those jobs instead. It was a few years ago now so I don't recall exactly who but part of the problem is a sort of chilling effect. It might tip the balance for someone against taking the job when they would have otherwise. I don't know how many cabinet level officials this applied to but imagine if Barr hadn't been willing to take the AG job... I think this concern mostly applies to mid-level and lower level staffing, even for positions that don't require senate confirmation. I can’t imagine the Venn diagram of qualified competent individuals, individuals eager to work for a man like Trump, and individuals discouraged by Mueller having many people covered by all 3. Trump has a long and public history of fucking over everyone who works for him. Anyone happy to overlook that wouldn’t be discouraged by Mueller. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 27 2021 02:00 NewSunshine wrote: Back in my day the price of turkey was $1.50 a gallon! Dang big turkey companies, jacking up the price of a barrel of turkey just because they can. These rising turkey prices are all Biden's fault. This year was my first time being the one to pick up the turkey. Didn't bother to check the tag since I figured turkeys are cheap. It was $54 lmao | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5908 Posts
Is that Big Turkey? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://maps-turkey.com/img/0/turkey-continent-map.jpg) We now know which country they will invade next. ;-) | ||
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Simberto
Germany12081 Posts
On November 27 2021 05:43 maybenexttime wrote: Is that Big Turkey? + Show Spoiler + We now know which country they will invade next. ;-) No, this is big Turkey: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ottoman_Empire_Detailed.png/1024px-Ottoman_Empire_Detailed.png) | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5908 Posts
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EnDeR_
Spain2957 Posts
On November 27 2021 03:34 KwarK wrote: I can’t imagine the Venn diagram of qualified competent individuals, individuals eager to work for a man like Trump, and individuals discouraged by Mueller having many people covered by all 3. Trump has a long and public history of fucking over everyone who works for him. Anyone happy to overlook that wouldn’t be discouraged by Mueller. Beyond that, would you want to work for a guy that thinks Mexicans are rapists and that grabbing women by the pussy is okay? That happened during the election period. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 27 2021 08:24 EnDeR_ wrote: Beyond that, would you want to work for a guy that thinks Mexicans are rapists and that grabbing women by the pussy is okay? That happened during the election period. I think there are innumerable people who would like to/would gladly tolerate working for someone like that unfortunately | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2957 Posts
On November 27 2021 08:48 Zambrah wrote: I think there are innumerable people who would like to/would gladly tolerate working for someone like that unfortunately Yes, but that'd be the type of person that wouldn't be held back by 'salacious' scandals. The incompetency of the Trump admin was self-inflicted. Remember also that the person putting together the first team was Steve Bannon... just the thought of being in a room with that kind of character would turn away anyone with any kind of moral compass. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
You could be a civic minded person and do your job to the best of your ability despite political disagreements, civil servants do it all the time. It’s another thing when the head honcho wants to change your job spec | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
I don't know if you necessarily mean to reveal where your values really lie by saying what you think the problem is in that picture, but... | ||
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