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On June 17 2017 01:46 Nyxisto wrote:Macron launches 10 billion initiative to attract international talent to FranceShow nested quote +France launched a technology visa on Thursday which aims to attract international talent, with newly-elected President Emmanuel Macron talking about the need to strip out regulation to become a "Country of unicorns".
Speaking at the Viva Tech conference in Paris, France, Macron outlined how his government would slash complex regulation, make it easier for foreign talent to work, and support start-ups with money, in order to create world-leading companies.
The visa is open to start-up founders, employees and investors and is a fast-track procedure to obtain a residence permit in France known as the "Talent Passport".
"The bet of the future for us is to carry on educating our talents, taking our students to the highest levels of academic success. We must defend our educational model, we must help our students go further," Macron said, adding that if they end up going to another country, "They must come back, because here is where the future lies."
Another proposal put forward by Macron was a European Venture Fund that can support start-ups as they grow.
Macron made a strong rallying cry to the entrepreneurs in France and received a standing ovation from the audience.
"Entrepreneur is the new France."
Macron trying to beat Thatcher in the "best quote to define neoliberalism" contest...
Managing a country like you run a company: complete depoliticisation and managerial bull**** at its finest. I'm not even sure that Macron is aware of the dark irony in his speech: 90% of start-ups end up failing. What shall happen to Macron's start-up?
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Those are some of the most worrying words I've seen associated with Macron; my country is full to the brim with states that are excellent examples as to why the business-ification of government doesn't come even remotely close to working.
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On June 17 2017 02:20 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 01:46 Nyxisto wrote:Macron launches 10 billion initiative to attract international talent to FranceFrance launched a technology visa on Thursday which aims to attract international talent, with newly-elected President Emmanuel Macron talking about the need to strip out regulation to become a "Country of unicorns".
Speaking at the Viva Tech conference in Paris, France, Macron outlined how his government would slash complex regulation, make it easier for foreign talent to work, and support start-ups with money, in order to create world-leading companies.
The visa is open to start-up founders, employees and investors and is a fast-track procedure to obtain a residence permit in France known as the "Talent Passport".
"The bet of the future for us is to carry on educating our talents, taking our students to the highest levels of academic success. We must defend our educational model, we must help our students go further," Macron said, adding that if they end up going to another country, "They must come back, because here is where the future lies."
Another proposal put forward by Macron was a European Venture Fund that can support start-ups as they grow.
Macron made a strong rallying cry to the entrepreneurs in France and received a standing ovation from the audience.
"Entrepreneur is the new France." Macron trying to beat Thatcher in the "best quote to define neoliberalism" contest... https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/875394454110294016 Managing a country like you run a company: complete depoliticisation and managerial bull**** at its finest. I'm not even sure that Macron is aware of the dark irony in his speech: 90% of start-ups end up failing. What shall happen to Macron's start-up?
Provided it will not crash and burn, it will be sold to Germany.
Edit: seriously, though, expect Macron to end his term by manoeuvring himself into a corporate/banking position where he'll be making billions upon billions, while business interests rule the country at the expense of the labourers. He'll basically be selling out the country. It just won't be to Germany, specifically (although you might argue he'll also sell out to the lobbyists in Brussels/Europe, and thus Germany).
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On June 17 2017 02:22 farvacola wrote:
Those are some of the most worrying words I've seen associated with Macron; my country is full to the brim with states that are excellent examples as to why the business-ification of government doesn't come even remotely close to working.
Oh, as far as the State-business fusion goes, we'll be well served. Our governement and the ministers' cabinets are full of lobbyists or people who had fairly high functions in French big business. Our labour minister is even an ex-CHRO and was managing "Business France" (some structure to attract foreign investment) lol
On June 17 2017 02:24 a_flayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2017 02:20 TheDwf wrote:On June 17 2017 01:46 Nyxisto wrote:Macron launches 10 billion initiative to attract international talent to FranceFrance launched a technology visa on Thursday which aims to attract international talent, with newly-elected President Emmanuel Macron talking about the need to strip out regulation to become a "Country of unicorns".
Speaking at the Viva Tech conference in Paris, France, Macron outlined how his government would slash complex regulation, make it easier for foreign talent to work, and support start-ups with money, in order to create world-leading companies.
The visa is open to start-up founders, employees and investors and is a fast-track procedure to obtain a residence permit in France known as the "Talent Passport".
"The bet of the future for us is to carry on educating our talents, taking our students to the highest levels of academic success. We must defend our educational model, we must help our students go further," Macron said, adding that if they end up going to another country, "They must come back, because here is where the future lies."
Another proposal put forward by Macron was a European Venture Fund that can support start-ups as they grow.
Macron made a strong rallying cry to the entrepreneurs in France and received a standing ovation from the audience.
"Entrepreneur is the new France." Macron trying to beat Thatcher in the "best quote to define neoliberalism" contest... https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/875394454110294016 Managing a country like you run a company: complete depoliticisation and managerial bull**** at its finest. I'm not even sure that Macron is aware of the dark irony in his speech: 90% of start-ups end up failing. What shall happen to Macron's start-up? Provided it will not crash and burn, it will be sold to Germany.
We'll exert our pre-emptive right
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When someone utilizes a metaphor we should strive to understand which parts of the comparison he intends to mean. When Macron says "I want France to be a startup nation" then he is probably talking about innovating more, creating more agile public services that better serve its citizens, creating the conditions for more startups to establish and find success in France, having a can-do mentality and so on. If you intend to be mean-spirited then obviously you can pick up the aspects of a startup that would apply pretty dystopically to government and make your case but that's not a very honest exercise.
We are going to see big forces from technology impacting the economy, labor, energy and so on in the coming years. Old industries will be transformed and new billion-euro companies will be formed. Sweden is heavily invested in being a startup/tech hub and it's already a huge success story with more startups valued at over 1bn than France. This is a boat you want to catch.
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Maybe Macron wants France to be more like a startup in that 90% more or less fail, 9% end up well off, and 1% get fabulously and obscenely wealthy.
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He would be hard pressed to replicate our State’s terrible tax policies. San Francisco is surrounded by the richest companies on the planet, but can’t afford to renovate their aging public transportation system.
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On June 16 2017 22:48 Sent. wrote:
Are you sure you're not overplaying the foreign influence in your national politics? Maybe it's a normal domestic political crisis and not a power struggle between CIA, Russia and Chyna?
I noticed that you and, to a lesser degree, opisska (when mentioning Chinese investments), tend do describe political events in your countries as conflicts between pro American/European/Chinese/Russian factions. Obviously, these powers have some influence on your countries, but I think you're making them look too influential. indeed the influence varies but when factoring our politicians inclination in taking bribes and spreading favoritism based on payouts and/or clique affiliations ... well there is where i'm coming from; i'm underselling our political class mostly.
in this context i see 'American/European/Chinese/Russian factions' competing with our self-serving politicians; there hasn't been since '89, a politician that would put Romania first imo.
@a_flayer: whoaaa dude, chill; there's literally a screenshot about that,at 13) + Show Spoiler + Developing economic relations with the Russian Federation, respecting EU sanctions.
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On June 17 2017 02:22 farvacola wrote:
Those are some of the most worrying words I've seen associated with Macron; my country is full to the brim with states that are excellent examples as to why the business-ification of government doesn't come even remotely close to working.
You don't need to literally sell out to be attractive to the kind of culture that Macron envisions, it's not like the Californian government is terrible and doesn't provide social services, right?
I don't understand this intuitive scare, most countries or regions that run successful 'start up' models have a relatively well financed and working government, why do you just assume that there's a contradiction?
The states you are talking about that fail to provide social security and welfare aren't exactly start up heavens or have a modern economy going for them right?
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On June 17 2017 02:55 LegalLord wrote:
Maybe Macron wants France to be more like a startup in that 90% more or less fail, 9% end up well off, and 1% get fabulously and obscenely wealthy.
Haha, yeah, fits nicely.
One concrete example of the problematic composition of Macron's government. Our minister of Health said that she's considering making 8 more vaccines mandatory. Well, she happened to work for the labs which would benefit from this decision because they sell said vaccines... So is her decision based on real necessities, or?... She was already in a conflict of interest situation because her husband is the director of an institute which is now under her responsibility as a minister... So she had to sign an official paper stating that she would not be in charge of that, etc. Le Canard Enchaîné and Mediapart had pointed to other conflicts of interest in the past.
It's just impossible to work serenely in that kind of environment, where suspicion is always present because of the links with big business and incestuous connections; especially with France's abysmal trust in its political class.
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Aren't the people Macron has put up to a much larger degree than usual coming from outside of politics? He even seems to have doubled the rate of women participating. It's also not necessarily bad that someone working in a field goes into a political position of that field, at least they carry expertise with them. Not everybody is an evil lobbyist. Whether those vaccines are necessary can probably be answered objectively independent of her background
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It seems that one of Macron's ministers won very narrowly her reelection in a foreign district. Today, abstention will probably be even stronger than in the first round now that there is not much at stake anymore in 80% of the constituencies for the majority of voters. We'll see if people come to block Macron's soldiers with left-wing votes where it's still possible, or if they still boycott the ballot boxes.
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On June 18 2017 08:23 TheDwf wrote:
It seems that one of Macron's ministers won very narrowly her reelection in a foreign district. Today, abstention will probably be even stronger than in the first round now that there is not much at stake anymore in 80% of the constituencies for the majority of voters. We'll see if people come to block Macron's soldiers with left-wing votes where it's still possible, or if they still boycott the ballot boxes.
How does boycotting an election because you dont like the party that is going to win help in any way? All your doing is increasing the power of the person you don't like.
If people wanted to stop Macron they should have rallied behind his opponents, voting for whichever was most likely to get through to the 2nd round so as to limit his power in parliament.
Instead they seem to have given him a massive majority by abstaining in some mock form of protest.
You dont get to complain about the results of a democratic system if you refuse to partake in it.
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I'm going to disagree. Macron getting an 80% majority is ridiculous. Dwf and other French voters not voting is perfectly justified when the system doesn't provide you anything to vote for. Even with PR I'm struggling to choose a party worth voting. Everyone should be able to.vote on thw person they want and not be forced to vote on the least worst candidate.
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No they don't. The rot in our electoral exists partly because people forget that voting is a right and also a duty. Voting is essential for a democracy to work properly, and if you're not happy with the choices then go make a difference. Especially in a "winner takes all" system like this. The republican monarchy was indeed created to concentrate power in the hands of the executive, there are historical reasons for that, it's not a perfect system and it does need some tweaking to adapt it to the current world but abstention solves nothing. Burying your head in the sand won't keep the world from spinning; someone will be elected anyways.
On a side note, funny that it was never mentioned here that the first law to be enacted by Macron is a massive hammer intended to trim graft and corruption in our political life down to more manageable levels. It was a campaign promise so for now he seems to keep his word, might as well give the guy a chance instead of cutting his wings before he gets to the hard stuff like: labor, brexit, equal opportunities, the next financial crisis...
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On June 18 2017 10:22 RvB wrote:
I'm going to disagree. Macron getting an 80% majority is ridiculous. Dwf and other French voters not voting is perfectly justified when the system doesn't provide you anything to vote for. Even with PR I'm struggling to choose a party worth voting. Everyone should be able to.vote on thw person they want and not be forced to vote on the least worst candidate.
I vote for some ideas in the first round of every election and against someone in the second round. It's just how it is, it's democracy. We have a ridiculous system to elect our assembly, yes. It's also somewhat decent. I'd like to remind that it's the French people who elected the politicians who established this system. I blame the voters way more than the system in this case.
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On June 17 2017 04:11 Nyxisto wrote:
Aren't the people Macron has put up to a much larger degree than usual coming from outside of politics? He even seems to have doubled the rate of women participating. It's also not necessarily bad that someone working in a field goes into a political position of that field, at least they carry expertise with them. Not everybody is an evil lobbyist. Whether those vaccines are necessary can probably be answered objectively independent of her background
This is the typical guys that knows nothing beyond what his favorite newspaper toold him...
On the women side: all gov does this for like 10 yaears. So yeah, Macron iss doing like others. But hell, it's Macron, so it must be NEW!!!!
On the new to "politics": it has been shown that half of the "new to politics" have been working for... politicians!!! Yeah, but it's Macron, so let's forget avbout this detail! Oh yeah, and the other half is largely made of people with conflict of interest, not only the health minister...
OTOH, I understand germans, Macron is EXACTLY the type of president they want for France.
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On June 18 2017 16:24 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 10:22 RvB wrote:
I'm going to disagree. Macron getting an 80% majority is ridiculous. Dwf and other French voters not voting is perfectly justified when the system doesn't provide you anything to vote for. Even with PR I'm struggling to choose a party worth voting. Everyone should be able to.vote on thw person they want and not be forced to vote on the least worst candidate. I vote for some ideas in the first round of every election and against someone in the second round. It's just how it is, it's democracy. We have a ridiculous system to elect our assembly, yes. It's also somewhat decent. I'd like to remind that it's the French people who elected the politicians who established this system. I blame the voters way more than the system in this case.
Voting "against" is what has sold Macron to a lot of people from the first round. I heard on France 2 that 25% of his first round voters did it by conviction, the remaining being split between "no alternative" (probably some PS voters that didnt want Hamon, or thought voting Hamon was a loss - my woman foir example) and "no FN".
So thanks to this "vote against" we have the worst elected president ever that is going to burn a lot of what we gained wince WWII.
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On June 18 2017 16:51 Furikawari wrote:
So thanks to this "vote against" we have the worst elected president ever that is going to burn a lot of what we gained wince WWII.
Topping Hollande on that one is going to be tough. We also have a buffoon across the pond to remind us what "worst ever" truly means.
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On June 18 2017 16:51 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 16:24 nojok wrote:On June 18 2017 10:22 RvB wrote:
I'm going to disagree. Macron getting an 80% majority is ridiculous. Dwf and other French voters not voting is perfectly justified when the system doesn't provide you anything to vote for. Even with PR I'm struggling to choose a party worth voting. Everyone should be able to.vote on thw person they want and not be forced to vote on the least worst candidate. I vote for some ideas in the first round of every election and against someone in the second round. It's just how it is, it's democracy. We have a ridiculous system to elect our assembly, yes. It's also somewhat decent. I'd like to remind that it's the French people who elected the politicians who established this system. I blame the voters way more than the system in this case. Voting "against" is what has sold Macron to a lot of people from the first round. I heard on France 2 that 25% of his first round voters did it by conviction, the remaining being split between "no alternative" (probably some PS voters that didnt want Hamon, or thought voting Hamon was a loss - my woman foir example) and "no FN". So thanks to this "vote against" we have the worst elected president ever that is going to burn a lot of what we gained wince WWII.
Lol. You had Sarkosconi, lame duck Hollande and even Chirac was completely shit. But Macron is going to destroy the country... stop drinking the Infowars coolaid.
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