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CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2889 Posts
May 17 2026 10:42 GMT
#28481
On May 17 2026 07:03 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2026 04:30 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
It's Eurovision time again!

Denmark was OK, Germany kind of sucks, Israel also not great.


Hi there! Unfortunately I won't be watching this year, but I hope you enjoy


We watched all the entries. Feels like a deserved win. 5 yo went to bed a little over halfway in so a strong showing for her.

Great that Sweden bombed out, think it's what we needed.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27383 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-17 15:49:22
May 17 2026 15:48 GMT
#28482
It’s too brazenly political to really function as a song contest, but I know a lot don’t really care and just enjoy the spectacle
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24354 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-17 16:42:16
May 17 2026 16:40 GMT
#28483
On May 18 2026 00:48 WombaT wrote:
It’s too brazenly political to really function as a song contest, but I know a lot don’t really care and just enjoy the spectacle

We all do this in our own ways, so please don't take this the wrong way, but didn't you refuse to watch while being quite critical of anyone participating in the Gamers 8 thing in Riyadh?

I guess I expected a similar attitude for the countries that chose not to boycott participating like Iceland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Slovenia, and Spain did and this felt like a curious incongruence?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27383 Posts
May 17 2026 20:25 GMT
#28484
On May 18 2026 01:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2026 00:48 WombaT wrote:
It’s too brazenly political to really function as a song contest, but I know a lot don’t really care and just enjoy the spectacle

We all do this in our own ways, so please don't take this the wrong way, but didn't you refuse to watch while being quite critical of anyone participating in the Gamers 8 thing in Riyadh?

I guess I expected a similar attitude for the countries that chose not to boycott participating like Iceland, Ireland, the Netherlands, Slovenia, and Spain did and this felt like a curious incongruence?

I mean in general, even if you don’t consider the Israel factor, a combination of public votes factoring in and petty nationalism render it kinda a farce as an actual competition. The days you get an ABBA out of it are long gone, and for many the enjoyment is more in camp spectacle, but I digress

It wouldn’t be something that especially interests me anyway, that’s one reason, so I couldn’t really claim in good conscience to be engaging in a boycott, I think that necessitates a denial of something one enjoys on some point of principle, or inconvenience

Aye I mean I don’t think Israel should be included in ostensibly European things (yes I know, Australia etc). Football being one. There’s probably a good argument for more wholesale ostracisation but at the very least don’t effectively do Israel a favour and let it participate in another region

Incidentally where there’s a will there’s a way if one wants to watch, but some nations didn’t just boycott participating this one, they didnt broadcast it domestically either, for those that aren’t aware
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
May 17 2026 22:30 GMT
#28485
On May 18 2026 00:48 WombaT wrote:
It’s too brazenly political to really function as a song contest, but I know a lot don’t really care and just enjoy the spectacle


If we remove the context of this year, it varies but on a good year you get 4 or 5 songs that are very good. Sure it doesn't always translate to winning because of the politics that you outlined but you don't have to care about that.
No will to live, no wish to die
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7406 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-05-18 09:33:43
May 18 2026 09:31 GMT
#28486
90% of the songs sound like AI slop with tiktok dances. Not sure what this has to do with music. But the drama around it is world class soap opera material.
I do still listen to Nemo's The Code from time to time though. Good song
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2889 Posts
May 18 2026 10:00 GMT
#28487
On May 18 2026 18:31 Harris1st wrote:
90% of the songs sound like AI slop with tiktok dances. Not sure what this has to do with music. But the drama around it is world class soap opera material.
I do still listen to Nemo's The Code from time to time though. Good song


The target audience (kids) love it.
A constant stream of oh's and ah's. It's not only the simple songs it's the shiny clothes and the stage show spectacle.
Plus it's a competition which they always think it's fun.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10953 Posts
May 19 2026 09:55 GMT
#28488
It's also unbelievably huge within the lgbt "community". When talking to friends and so on within that, you would believe it's the biggest and most important event in the world. Personally I don't get it at all but well, they have tons of fun thanks to it.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27383 Posts
May 19 2026 11:31 GMT
#28489
On May 19 2026 18:55 Velr wrote:
It's also unbelievably huge within the lgbt "community". When talking to friends and so on within that, you would believe it's the biggest and most important event in the world. Personally I don't get it at all but well, they have tons of fun thanks to it.

Yeah least in my circles it’s big with LGBT folks and (mostly) straight women who enjoy LGBT culture, and not too many else
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
July 25 2026 16:01 GMT
#28490
There is a survey on new Euro banknote design:

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/html/design-proposals.en.html

https://surveys.ecb.europa.eu/lng/en/pageTag/page:survey-already-completed-ending/cId/lnQrjWQVXegm5TVV/

Which one do you like best? I think E, C, and H are my favorite, followed by I and J.

I would personally choose other people to put on the banknotes, though. I think Joan of Arc / Beethoven / Marie Curie / Magellan (or Vasco da Gama) / da Vinci / Ada Lovelace would work better. I have no idea who the women on the 5 and 200 euro bills are and I suspect hardly anyone does. I think Joan of Arc and Ada Lovelace are far more iconic. Also adding a famous explorer adds an important theme.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4386 Posts
July 25 2026 16:22 GMT
#28491
A, B or H for me....but to be fair, i cant even tell what our current notes show as i never have money on me all digital :/

Some of them are wayyy out there but oh well.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3209 Posts
July 25 2026 17:01 GMT
#28492
I'm not European, but the color gradients on Design H are really lovely.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2380 Posts
July 25 2026 17:26 GMT
#28493
Go with the animals, then no one is slighted. No down side.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-25 17:43:35
July 25 2026 17:43 GMT
#28494
The down side is the lack of European heroes or eagles on on the banknote. Dragons and lions can get a pass if they look really really really cool.
You're now breathing manually
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-25 18:15:34
July 25 2026 18:15 GMT
#28495
On July 26 2026 01:22 KobraKay wrote:
A, B or H for me....but to be fair, i cant even tell what our current notes show as i never have money on me all digital :/

Some of them are wayyy out there but oh well.

The current banknotes show different European architectural styles in a chronological order.

On July 26 2026 02:26 Billyboy wrote:
Go with the animals, then no one is slighted. No down side.

I'd hope we're mature enough that this wouldn't be a problem. Every region can be represented by someone or something.

Personally, I think the inverse of those designs are very generic. There are so many iconic buildings they could've chosen instead. E.g. they could go with Dutch windmills, the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral (Bulgaria), Atomium (Belgium), the Oresund Bridge connecting Sweden with Denmark, the Parthenon, and Prague's astronomical clock. Or perhaps some of Europe's famous achievements/inventions, such as F1, splitting the atom, aqueducts, the printing press, railway, and football.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11995 Posts
July 25 2026 19:40 GMT
#28496
On July 26 2026 01:01 maybenexttime wrote:
There is a survey on new Euro banknote design:

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/html/design-proposals.en.html

https://surveys.ecb.europa.eu/lng/en/pageTag/page:survey-already-completed-ending/cId/lnQrjWQVXegm5TVV/

Which one do you like best? I think E, C, and H are my favorite, followed by I and J.

I would personally choose other people to put on the banknotes, though. I think Joan of Arc / Beethoven / Marie Curie / Magellan (or Vasco da Gama) / da Vinci / Ada Lovelace would work better. I have no idea who the women on the 5 and 200 euro bills are and I suspect hardly anyone does. I think Joan of Arc and Ada Lovelace are far more iconic. Also adding a famous explorer adds an important theme.


Ada Lovelace is British afaik, and thus doesn't really fit on a EU note, considering they left the EU. I think Joan of Arc is out because she is too warlike, and they want peaceful people on there.

My favorite is H by far, but vertical birds are also nice. The vertical birds are also nice.

I don't think i like any of the people face variants. A is just shit, i kinda dislike the circle thingy on the 5€ in C, and i don't think i like the seperate abstract middle things on the other C variants. E is okay i guess, but very standard face bank notes. F is weird with the line drawings, i guess G is also okay for vertical faces.

As you said, all the face notes have the problem that i have no clue who Mrs. 5€ is, and we see her first. And apparently always with that arrogant-looking upwards view.

Also, birds are neat.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18443 Posts
July 25 2026 19:51 GMT
#28497
On July 26 2026 01:01 maybenexttime wrote:
There is a survey on new Euro banknote design:

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/banknotes/future_banknotes/html/design-proposals.en.html

https://surveys.ecb.europa.eu/lng/en/pageTag/page:survey-already-completed-ending/cId/lnQrjWQVXegm5TVV/

Which one do you like best? I think E, C, and H are my favorite, followed by I and J.

I would personally choose other people to put on the banknotes, though. I think Joan of Arc / Beethoven / Marie Curie / Magellan (or Vasco da Gama) / da Vinci / Ada Lovelace would work better. I have no idea who the women on the 5 and 200 euro bills are and I suspect hardly anyone does. I think Joan of Arc and Ada Lovelace are far more iconic. Also adding a famous explorer adds an important theme.

Probably H is my favorite, followed closely by G. I prefer the birds, but I like the more abstract design of G, with lines. If we continue on, D Is third for me, ahead of I and E.

Ada Lovelace was British, so her chance of appearing on the Euro is approximately 0. Maria Callas is pretty good. Joan of Arc is probably too polemic. I agree I'd never heard of Bertha von Suttner, but that is more my lack of culture than her fault. Either way, she's on the 200 bill, which is never used. Joan of Arc was also French, which is already represented by Marie Curie, and Euro notes need to show of cultural and geographical diversity.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-25 20:14:58
July 25 2026 20:11 GMT
#28498
Why would Joan of Arc be controversial? It's been 600 years. She's a cultural icon. I agree that Ada Lovelace would be a problem. There aren't that many women to chose from, considering they were marginalized for most of our history.

I don't think it's a problem of lack of culture. I don't think Maria Callas or Bertha von Suttner are anywhere in the same league as Beethoven, Marie Curie, da Vinci, or Cervantes. Those are iconic people. Everyone's heard of Beethoven or Mozart, Marie Curie or Einstein, da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm pretty sure Maria Callas is only known to people who are into opera, and Bertha von Suttner is just obscure.

Also, Marie Curie was Polish, lol.

Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2380 Posts
July 25 2026 20:13 GMT
#28499
It’s pretty hard to avoid all controversy with every group. Putting people on isn’t better enough (or at all depending on opinion) to make it worth it.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18443 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-25 20:52:11
July 25 2026 20:47 GMT
#28500
On July 26 2026 05:11 maybenexttime wrote:
Why would Joan of Arc be controversial? It's been 600 years. She's a cultural icon. I agree that Ada Lovelace would be a problem. There aren't that many women to chose from, considering they were marginalized for most of our history.

I don't think it's a problem of lack of culture. I don't think Maria Callas or Bertha von Suttner are anywhere in the same league as Beethoven, Marie Curie, da Vinci, or Cervantes. Those are iconic people. Everyone's heard of Beethoven or Mozart, Marie Curie or Einstein, da Vinci or Michelangelo. I'm pretty sure Maria Callas is only known to people who are into opera, and Bertha von Suttner is just obscure.

Also, Marie Curie was Polish, lol.


Obviously she was Polish, she married a French dude and became a naturalised French citizen and did all the important science in Paris. She's an icon of the EU for many reasons and her international mobility is one of them. But France is covered, while Austria is not. Not are many other countries. Two French people is a bit much.

Female icons are a problem. I agree with you on that. Especially if we have to exclude the English. Emmeline Pankhurst would've been a good one to put on there too.
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