On July 28 2014 11:58 Thor.Rush wrote: Why does no one care about the 1,700 people killed in Syria last week, or what's happening in Iraq? Oh right, because it's Muslims killing Muslims. But when it's Jews killing Muslims, we see total outrage, especially in European media and the Muslim world.
Regular people who have no idea what's going on in the world see these "Israel killing scores of Palestinians" headlines all over the place, convincing them that Israelis are Nazis, and then proceeding to post their first ever political post on facebook, not realizing that more people are being killed elsewhere.
That is why way earlier in this thread I accused some of these pro-Palestinian Europeans of being closet Anti-Semites. Here in Germany they can't stand a Muslim wearing a headscarf, but when its about jihadist militants in the middle-east they suddenly start showing their compassionate side. If they'd spend 1/10 of that empathy for the Muslims living here we'd have way less cultural problems. But Muslims here aren't killed by evil murderous Jews so that's obviously not going to happen.
These Anti-Israel demos over here paint a funny picture. At times you could see right-wingers and Muslims waving Palestinian flags together. Guess they've found the single thing they hate more than each other.
On July 28 2014 11:58 Thor.Rush wrote: Why does no one care about the 1,700 people killed in Syria last week, or what's happening in Iraq? Oh right, because it's Muslims killing Muslims. But when it's Jews killing Muslims, we see total outrage, especially in European media and the Muslim world.
Regular people who have no idea what's going on in the world see these "Israel killing scores of Palestinians" headlines all over the place, convincing them that Israelis are Nazis, and then proceeding to post their first ever political post on facebook, not realizing that more people are being killed elsewhere.
That is why way earlier in this thread I accused some of these pro-Palestinian Europeans of being closet Anti-Semites. Here in Germany they can't stand a Muslim wearing a headscarf, but when its about jihadist militants in the middle-east they suddenly start showing their compassionate side. If they'd spend 1/10 of that empathy for the Muslims living here we'd have way less cultural problems. But Muslims here aren't killed by evil murderous Jews so that's obviously not going to happen.
I have to agree, it is pretty disgusting how the deaths of Muslims at hands of Israelis are this world disaster that massive protests have to be held for. Death of Muslims at the hands of Muslims? Maybe 5-10 Syrian exiles show up or whatever. Europeans and leftists really have a fixation with Israel that is beyond reasonable -- the only thing that I think mildly justfyes their behavior is that Israel as a democracy is much more likely to reply to criticism than a despotate. But even this is fucking weak, too many Communists are still fixated on fighting 'anti-colonialism'
A humanitarian truce that had given residents of the Gaza Strip a respite from nearly three weeks of fighting crumbled on Sunday after militants there fired a barrage of rockets into Israel and Israeli forces responded with limited airstrikes and artillery fire.
looks like Gaza wants the fighting to keep going
not quite the helpless victims TL is portraying them to be
A humanitarian truce that had given residents of the Gaza Strip a respite from nearly three weeks of fighting crumbled on Sunday after militants there fired a barrage of rockets into Israel and Israeli forces responded with limited airstrikes and artillery fire.
looks like Gaza wants the fighting to keep going
not quite the helpless victims TL is portraying them to be
A humanitarian truce that had given residents of the Gaza Strip a respite from nearly three weeks of fighting crumbled on Sunday after militants there fired a barrage of rockets into Israel and Israeli forces responded with limited airstrikes and artillery fire.
looks like Gaza wants the fighting to keep going
not quite the helpless victims TL is portraying them to be
Actually, if you had actually read the article and not just the two first lines, you would've known better... they want a permanent truce, and they also want freedom. They're getting neither right now..,
do you think firing rockets into Israel is going to achieve those goals?
On July 28 2014 13:51 PrideNeverDie wrote: do you think firing rockets into Israel is going to achieve those goals?
I don't... but apparently Hamas thinks that's the way to go...
then let them face the consequences of their actions
Yep let's go bomb some more civilians far more effectively and blame hamas for making us do it.
The people crying anti-semitism need to realise that, for the most part, it's anti-israeli sentiment and not anti jew. I dont expect syria and other rogue states to value civilian life but I do expect a developed western nation backed up by the US to behave somewhat ethically. If your defence is 'but Syria killed more innocents. Go protest that!' you probably need to rethink who you're defending.
A humanitarian truce that had given residents of the Gaza Strip a respite from nearly three weeks of fighting crumbled on Sunday after militants there fired a barrage of rockets into Israel and Israeli forces responded with limited airstrikes and artillery fire.
looks like Gaza wants the fighting to keep going
not quite the helpless victims TL is portraying them to be
Actually, if you had actually read the article and not just the two first lines, you would've known better... they want a permanent truce, and they also want freedom. They're getting neither right now..,
do you think firing rockets into Israel is going to achieve those goals?
No, but it keeps international attention on the conflict. That is the main reason. As someone mentioned earlier, we have already forgotten about Syria and Iraq; Hamas wants to stay in the news cycle.
On July 28 2014 11:58 Thor.Rush wrote: Why does no one care about the 1,700 people killed in Syria last week, or what's happening in Iraq? Oh right, because it's Muslims killing Muslims. But when it's Jews killing Muslims, we see total outrage, especially in European media and the Muslim world.
Regular people who have no idea what's going on in the world see these "Israel killing scores of Palestinians" headlines all over the place, convincing them that Israelis are Nazis, and then proceeding to post their first ever political post on facebook, not realizing that more people are being killed elsewhere.
That is why way earlier in this thread I accused some of these pro-Palestinian Europeans of being closet Anti-Semites. Here in Germany they can't stand a Muslim wearing a headscarf, but when its about jihadist militants in the middle-east they suddenly start showing their compassionate side. If they'd spend 1/10 of that empathy for the Muslims living here we'd have way less cultural problems. But Muslims here aren't killed by evil murderous Jews so that's obviously not going to happen.
These Anti-Israel demos over here paint a funny picture. At times you could see right-wingers and Muslims waving Palestinian flags together. Guess they've found the single thing they hate more than each other.
True, anti-semites use the perpetual crisis for their purposes.
But when it comes to technology, economy, type of government and even culture, Israel is mostly part of the western world. And the Arabs rightfully view the West as Israel's ally.
Combined with the fact that Israel is clearly the much stronger side in this conflict, there are plenty of reasons why Israel comes under special scrutiny.
I'm not surprised at all that Hamas is firing rockets into Israel. When you repress people long enough then some of those people might actually fight back. I can't even imagine how angry I would be as a Palestinian :/. I think its naive to think there will be truce between Hamas and Israel. When you steal someones lands and repress the people on top of that you will have disorder. Its just another unsolvable situation thats going on around the world. The world is full of unsolvable shit and I'm really starting to think only a huge natural disaster can "fix" things so we could start fucking up all over again.
The people that completely agree that Israel is allowed to attack Gaza make me fucking sick. Have you got any ability to question your own thoughts? If you people really think war is gonna solve this problem then you are a fucking idiots! This war will only escalate things.
Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they’ve advanced into dangerous areas. That’s not the use of human shields we’re talking about. It’s egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit.
Palestine won 1-0 in a recent final against the Philippines (football) and I ain't even mad. Palestine really needed a win for that country with all the shit they're going through.
Reversing the roles is ridiculous. The palestinians are so desperate and downtrodden that extremists are bound to surface. Its difficult to imagine israel put in a similar situation. Though considering how extreme some of their politicians already are I dont doubt they'd be just as ruthless with their backs to the wall fighting for their people.
On July 28 2014 11:58 Thor.Rush wrote: Why does no one care about the 1,700 people killed in Syria last week, or what's happening in Iraq? Oh right, because it's Muslims killing Muslims. But when it's Jews killing Muslims, we see total outrage, especially in European media and the Muslim world.
Regular people who have no idea what's going on in the world see these "Israel killing scores of Palestinians" headlines all over the place, convincing them that Israelis are Nazis, and then proceeding to post their first ever political post on facebook, not realizing that more people are being killed elsewhere.
That is why way earlier in this thread I accused some of these pro-Palestinian Europeans of being closet Anti-Semites. Here in Germany they can't stand a Muslim wearing a headscarf, but when its about jihadist militants in the middle-east they suddenly start showing their compassionate side. If they'd spend 1/10 of that empathy for the Muslims living here we'd have way less cultural problems. But Muslims here aren't killed by evil murderous Jews so that's obviously not going to happen.
I have to agree, it is pretty disgusting how the deaths of Muslims at hands of Israelis are this world disaster that massive protests have to be held for. Death of Muslims at the hands of Muslims? Maybe 5-10 Syrian exiles show up or whatever. Europeans and leftists really have a fixation with Israel that is beyond reasonable -- the only thing that I think mildly justfyes their behavior is that Israel as a democracy is much more likely to reply to criticism than a despotate. But even this is fucking weak, too many Communists are still fixated on fighting 'anti-colonialism'
that's just bullshit and you know it. first off, in Iraq and Syria you have a declared war; it's between two sides of relative strength. people killed there are casualties of war. in Palestine you have boxed in arabs not wanting to throw themselves into the sea yet. secondly, Assad was hit with sanctions from day 1, Israel is fine and dandy. also, people should stop saying Israel is a democracy because it's not.
Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens participate equally "....". It encompasses social, religious, cultural, ethnic and racial equality, justice, and liberty
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