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On June 09 2017 14:33 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 14:31 Reaps wrote:
Terrifying how close Corbyn came, but that's more to do with May being a bad PM i guess.
Next few months going to be interesting Appealing to voters can't really be handed to the opposition. There's no argument that May is the biggest failure since, well.. Cameron, i guess (okay not that impressive of a timeline), but Corbyn did a good job, like him/it or not.
Cameron may have lost the referendum but he actually won a majority
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On June 09 2017 14:38 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 14:33 m4ini wrote:On June 09 2017 14:31 Reaps wrote:
Terrifying how close Corbyn came, but that's more to do with May being a bad PM i guess.
Next few months going to be interesting Appealing to voters can't really be handed to the opposition. There's no argument that May is the biggest failure since, well.. Cameron, i guess (okay not that impressive of a timeline), but Corbyn did a good job, like him/it or not. Cameron may have lost the referendum but he actually won a majority
By promising a referendum that ultimately led to what's happening right this minute. How's that something to brag about?
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On June 09 2017 14:08 Zaros wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 14:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if Corbyn and the Lib Dems ally does that mean she is no longer PM? No she has a majority with the DUP but she will probably be replaced by another conservative
I am sorry to say so, but the UK election system sucks. Labour and Lib Dems together have a share of 47% of the votes compared to Tories 42%, and yet they have more than 40 seats less.
There are better alternatives out there for ages.
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There was a referendum in 2011 to change the voting system, but 66% voted against.
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On June 09 2017 15:32 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 14:08 Zaros wrote:No she has a majority with the DUP but she will probably be replaced by another conservative I am sorry to say so, but the UK election system sucks. Labour and Lib Dems together have a share of 47% of the votes compared to Tories 42%, and yet they have more than 40 seats less. There are better alternatives out there for ages.
FPTP systems friend. This is why systems that use this gravitate to 2 party systems aka Duverger's Law.
also this image gives me the lols ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4AWZiv8.png)
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Ok it is a coalition thanks to the Northern Irish cleaning up who are hardcore brexiters. Not to bad of a result to save complete face and keep money tree corbyn from no10 (not like it was any chance he would get in but)
May should resign to be fair but i can see why she will continue holding onto power, be interesting politics behind the scenes for them as to if they try to oust her anyway.
What a big gamble im just thankful that the guy who made the manifesto lost his seat too so he can go back into the dust and never be seen again. Hope Boris gets to be at the forefront soon and take us forward!
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So how many times did they recount Fife North East? o.0
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On June 09 2017 16:37 Pandemona wrote:
Ok it is a coalition thanks to the Northern Irish cleaning up who are hardcore brexiters.
They're still 1 seat short right?
Con is at 315 and DUP is at 10, 4 seats remaining.
edit: nvm, Con 316 now.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah there are 4 seats remaining 3 are which conservative seats in cornwall area.
There it is newquay just confirmed conservative taking us to 316. Still should be 2 more easy seats for them taking to 318, then one left in Kensington
Just give me Boris Johnson conservative leader please for the next election as im sure this coalition is only going to last a good 2 years at best, even though im sure unlike the lib dems the Irish contingent going to be no issues at all and just ask for things for there country which they will easily agree too. Still coalitions don't last long surely as it is so hard to force through your agenda's still especially when im sure there is a few conservatives who are disgruntled with May's roboticness and guy she got to make the manifesto xD
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On June 09 2017 16:24 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 15:32 Maenander wrote:On June 09 2017 14:08 Zaros wrote:No she has a majority with the DUP but she will probably be replaced by another conservative I am sorry to say so, but the UK election system sucks. Labour and Lib Dems together have a share of 47% of the votes compared to Tories 42%, and yet they have more than 40 seats less. There are better alternatives out there for ages. FPTP systems friend. This is why systems that use this gravitate to 2 party systems aka Duverger's Law. also this image gives me the lols
First past the post is such an insult to voters. I don't understand how the people of this Five North East region can feel democratically satisfied. 67.1% of their votes are not heard lol.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
yeah im ok with the DUP getting more benefits here. and hopefully despite how corrupt they are, some of it will filter through to public services
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah big winners really for DUP and Northern Ireland, should be able to coax a few big things out of Conservatives as Conservatives have no choice really plus as i said as long as they get what they want they will be no issues with them.
Also back to the Majority it is way less than needed due to the fact the 5 other in Northern Ireland will not take there seats in Parliament so to form a government you will only need 319 majority to form a government.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On June 09 2017 17:10 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah big winners really for DUP and Northern Ireland, should be able to coax a few big things out of Conservatives as Conservatives have no choice really plus as i said as long as they get what they want they will be no issues with them.
Also back to the Majority it is way less than needed due to the fact the 5 other in Northern Ireland will not take there seats in Parliament so to form a government you will only need 319 majority to form a government.
SF won 7 seats this time round. i still think technically you need 326 to form a govt, as SF could (albeit highly unlikely) take their seats at any time
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Oh yeah i think i fat fingered 5 instead of 7 xD
Hmm true i guess, be interested a quote from a DUP MP;
We would consider a supply and confidence arrangement make sure TM would have sufficient support to keep her in govt
MP says deal will "Cost them a lot"
Considerably more resources/more influence/more involvement in trade deals
Basically they want a few things and they happy. But seems want to make sure trade deals they are involved in/good for northern ireland.
Conservatives take 317th seat. 2 more results left.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
which is fine. i'm pretty sure they wont try to push their anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion agenda to the mainland
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I just want to say that, Theresa May is the dumbest politician in your history. And I want to hear those who still try to (lie to themselves to believe) that this woman can help in any way in the current gigantic sh!thole you are in.
What an insane year. As if everything happened between last year til this election was any easy to deal with, she somehow can make everything worse in a magical way.
A gambler is what she is, the one can't do maths too apparently.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Of course mainly due to i think her ideology was if i target the UKIP seats/voters i should take some small majority seats and well SNP shooting themselves in the foot i should win with more seats.
However it seems no one cared about Brexit this election so whilst the UKIP voters did vote conservative not all of them did and some went to Lib Dems and some went to Labour. Thus her whole strategy was found out but it looked like it was found out very early on but she didn't react.
Reminds me of the lets dark templar rush NesTea 4 times in a row in a finals when Inca played NesTea in GSL!
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Brexit just continues to be a gigantic trainwreck.
At least youth turnout was significantly higher this time around, I guess that's a positive takeaway 
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Well it isn't and it is i guess. Main reason was higher was because the dangling dream of "free tuition university" being dangled at them. Guess what, that aint happening xD
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On June 09 2017 17:07 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 16:24 FlaShFTW wrote:On June 09 2017 15:32 Maenander wrote:On June 09 2017 14:08 Zaros wrote:No she has a majority with the DUP but she will probably be replaced by another conservative I am sorry to say so, but the UK election system sucks. Labour and Lib Dems together have a share of 47% of the votes compared to Tories 42%, and yet they have more than 40 seats less. There are better alternatives out there for ages. FPTP systems friend. This is why systems that use this gravitate to 2 party systems aka Duverger's Law. also this image gives me the lols First past the post is such an insult to voters. I don't understand how the people of this Five North East region can feel democratically satisfied. 67.1% of their votes are not heard lol.
It's a relic of times when communicating over long distances was hard, thus you had to locally elect one guy to actually travel there.
Sadly, it seems to be hard to get rid of FPTP for a sensible system. I guess people get used to any bullshit.
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