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KwarK
United States44195 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 09 2017 12:40 KwarK wrote: Looks like May will limp on as the head of a minority government until someone is ready to make a move. She will be gone before Monday definitely | ||
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KwarK
United States44195 Posts
Who will get her? Not Corbyn, it'll be one of her own. But who? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24143 Posts
At least among many popular political outlets in the UK? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
The last prediction by SkyNews for example was for them to get somewhere between 315 to 325 seats and they ended up with 318. Or well, not "ended up", the 318 is the forecast | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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KwarK
United States44195 Posts
On June 09 2017 12:57 GreenHorizons wrote: Am I understanding that this is a rather large surprise as far as how bad conservatives are performing and how good labor is doing? At least among many popular political outlets in the UK? Given the polls a few weeks ago, yes, it's s colossal upset. The results match the exit polls but the exit polls defy the polls from earlier in the campaign. | ||
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KwarK
United States44195 Posts
On June 09 2017 13:08 Nyxisto wrote: some prediction had the tories down to 314. They definitely need 312 to form a minority government with the Irish support, correct? No other party can form a government and do a minority government or second election are inevitable. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 09 2017 10:32 FlaShFTW wrote: I mean right now they're doing extremely well. the SNP is basically dead and there's still about 5-6 potential seats for CON to grab from the SNP. Southport just went to Conservatives over from the Lib Dems. Going from an outright majority with an election far away, to thoughts that May is out and the tories might have to form a coalition for government? This is very shaky. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4429 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 09 2017 13:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Considering where the polls were six weeks ago i honestly think May deliberately threw the election.She was always a remainer.Lets see what happens with Brexit after this unprecedented result. nah, that's just they british spirit at work imo First they have Cameron with his "I'm going to hold a referendum because that'll make my hand stronger!" and now the same with May. Brits just need to chill a little with all that unnecessary yolo Also to follow up on the GH question, wikipedia has a nice summary of what "people" thought it would be like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017 so like Kwark said, yes a couple weeks ago it looked like a landslide (early may, mid april?) but them not getting enough votes to rule alone was written on the wall | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
So if Corbyn and the Lib Dems ally does that mean she is no longer PM? | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On June 09 2017 14:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/873041300030865408 So if Corbyn and the Lib Dems ally does that mean she is no longer PM? No she has a majority with the DUP but she will probably be replaced by another conservative | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Edit: fuck autocorrect | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
This is a truly bizarre situation. What exactly is the Brexit position now? Soft Brexit, hard brexit? The latter seems to have been rejected to a degree. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On June 09 2017 14:19 Nyxisto wrote: If a minority government led by Johnson happens we should do TL bets on the next election date This is a truly bizarre situation. What exactly is the Brexit position now? Soft Brexit, hard brexit? The latter seems to have been rejected to a degree. I can't believe i'd say this, but i'd rather have a Maybot than Boris Johnson. He's the epitome of incompetence, has proven that over and over again. Yeah, he got a victory by mobilising the racist and old fucks in the country (by straight up lying and on top admitting it), but that's about it. His track record as foreign minister is less than stellar (and that's still being very generous) - upside being, he'd get along great with the great ape, it's roughly the same level of "how does the world perceive us". | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Next few months going to be interesting | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On June 09 2017 14:31 Reaps wrote: Terrifying how close Corbyn came, but that's more to do with May being a bad PM i guess. Next few months going to be interesting Appealing to voters can't really be handed to the opposition. There's no argument that May is the biggest failure since, well.. Cameron, i guess (okay not that impressive of a timeline), but Corbyn did a good job, like him/it or not. Sidenote: with Boris Johnson you'd have the next "i don't really wanna brexit" candidate, so i'm not sure how that's supposed to work out. People seem to have already forgotten that while he was the "flagship" of the brexiters, he also was the first one to piss off when they won, taking no responsibility for the mess he created. He certainly will be the right guy to negotiate with the EU, lol. | ||
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