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Ercster
United States603 Posts
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:31 RoosterSamurai wrote: You're also committing a fallacy. You're assuming that someone only does this for 1 or 2 papers, whereas the big concern in this thread (If you read it, you'd know this) is that people just do this for all of their papers. Sure, if you're studying medicine and you pay someone to write your art history essay, who cares? But if you're studying medicine and you pay someone to write all your papers, then the only thing likely in your future is a malpractice suit... No no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm just pointing out the exception to your statement that invalidates it. In other words, for your statement to stand, you need to clarify, which you've done now due to my comment.  | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:33 nalgene wrote: If you ever need to do their math homework and they also want to see your steps, you might as well just punch in their data into matlab/mathematica/maple. It can do a lot of things. But maybe the easy stuff you won't need bother with it. That doesn't always work. In the calculus class I recently took, the tests were, literally, 75% of the grade, and they were all on paper in proctored rooms. You were allowed to have 1 sheet (one sided) of handwritten notes, and you were only allowed to use a TI85 or less. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:33 FallDownMarigold wrote: No no, I'm not assuming anything. I'm just pointing out the exception to your statement that invalidates it. In other words, for your statement to stand, you need to clarify, which you've done now due to my comment. So then, in essence, we agree. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
Now that you've clarified, I agree with your modified statement. Getting back on topic, that is a good point. If you do this for EVERYTHING, it probably says something about your character in general -- that you can't be bothered to commit yourself to your own work, which in and of itself is sorta disturbing. | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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Mirosuu
England283 Posts
Needless to say, a lot of people failed that class when it came to the exam. It's incredibly wrong to do other peoples homework for money. It harms universities grading, and it allows people to get degrees or earn easy marks towards degrees that clearly don't deserve it. It angers me when people cheat on exams or in homework or coursework. It's just stupid. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:35 RoosterSamurai wrote: That doesn't always work. In the calculus class I recently took, the tests were, literally, 75% of the grade, and they were all on paper in proctored rooms. You were allowed to have 1 sheet (one sided) of handwritten notes, and you were only allowed to use a TI85 or less. That is slightly different since that's a test. With that amount maybe they might actually be encouraged to do their own homework then. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Of course it's illegal to do that; what are you smoking? It's against the rules of the tournament. It is, by definition, illegal. There is no law against it, but it is against the rules. I was comparing it to the definition here: On January 10 2012 05:01 FallDownMarigold wrote: Well I meant illegal in terms of the school's board, not the actual government...bad wording I guess. Where he suggests that as there is no law against getting people to do your papers. This is technically true, but it is 'illegal' in a sense there are non-government rules against it (as in the case of cheating in a tournament). My point is that just because something does not have a national law against it, does not mean it is therefore a moral or acceptable action, given that there are other authorities such an act may fall under. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Paying someone else to do the work. I don't recall doing any Math or Physics homework ever because it was just a waste of time, I was never going to go into any physics or math career. Copied all of it. I turned out pretty well. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
in all seriousness, cheating is pretty rampant.. i took my french professor out to dinner (she is 23 fresh of the boat) and i got an A in a 5 credit class, i was pretty pleased with myself to be honest | ||
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Dbars
United States273 Posts
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Carson
Canada820 Posts
I work at a hospital and the number of useless but wealthy kids that come out of the university system "prepared for the rigors of health-care" is staggering. It is obviously unethical though. | ||
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Nancial
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eohs
United States677 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:53 Dfgj wrote: There is no law against it, but it is against the rules. I was comparing it to the definition here: Where he suggests that as there is no law against getting people to do your papers. This is technically true, but it is 'illegal' in a sense there are non-government rules against it (as in the case of cheating in a tournament). My point is that just because something does not have a national law against it, does not mean it is therefore a moral or acceptable action, given that there are other authorities such an act may fall under. Fair point. But what if the person involved does not hold the same moral values for his own reasons? What if he value avoiding cheating, but is compelled to overcome this moral impediment due to financial necessity? I don't know, those are just some ideas, not to disagree or anything | ||
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Holden Caulfield
102 Posts
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Gaspa
Brazil109 Posts
Accepting payment to do other people's hw is very wrong and should be unlawful, if it already isn't. I would much rather have my students cheat in some way on their homework than pay someone to do it. At least cheating requires some sort of skill. btw, I would never encourage cheating, although it might sound like I am. I'm just saying which one is the less bad. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
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