EPTshame on the person who gave his money for it than it is on the person who sells the service.
Getting Paid to Do Homework - Page 5
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
shame on the person who gave his money for it than it is on the person who sells the service. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i guess it depends on field? if you're majoring in costume design and need to write an essay on califiornia history, i guess it doesn't hurt to have someone do it? on a related note: i knew a quite a few people that "cheated" this way. one had someone else attend all classes for him as him while he was on vacation. i too "tutored" a friend...instead of helping with english translation, i just did the hw for the person XD (it was easier for me and less time consuming) | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:11 Orcasgt24 wrote: Seeing as how test make up the majority of your final mark in most classes having someone do your homework for you is just a waste of money. High marks on homework and projects/essays + low test score does = fail usally Some classes have papers as their final test. | ||
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 10 2012 03:56 Ghostcom wrote: This is 100% wrong and there is zero excuse for participating in this for neither the student nor the helper! Huh? That's your opinion and your morals. It's only "100%" wrong in a concrete sense if it's illegal or something, yes? What if I wanted to make extra money doing something I already do, as the 'helper'? It's 100% wrong in your eyes, but in the helper's eyes maybe it's just a source of income, and maybe the helper does not care one bit about the value the other guy is or isn't getting from his education? If someone's paying you to do something, it's not your job to judge them on it unless it's totally illegal in which case you're both being judged by the law. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:01 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's only "100%" wrong in a concrete sense if it's illegal or something, yes? It is 'illegal' in the sense that it's blatantly against the rules of most schools and would get you kicked out. We accept a lot of sub-state authorities for defining rules - it's not illegal to hack in SC2 competitions, but we sure as hell are against that too. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:13 Dfgj wrote: It is 'illegal' in the sense that it's blatantly against the rules of most schools and would get you kicked out. We accept a lot of sub-state authorities for defining rules - it's not illegal to hack in SC2 competitions, but we sure as hell are against that too. Well I meant illegal in terms of the school's board, not the actual government...bad wording I guess. But hmm I may be confused about the particulars of this website (OP did not actually include the site so I did a google search and found something that allows you to submit drafts for hardcore, paid revision -- interests me), but isn't it just helping people generate good papers? I would assume they'd send you a draft, and then you'd make it suitable for submission or something. Seems that there's no clear distinction between paying someone to do this or getting someone to do this as a friend/colleague. I guess I'm just not seeing why money being involved is a bad thing edit: If you're writing an entire paper completely from scratch, yes, this would be blatantly against the rules, I agree. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44920 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:13 Dfgj wrote: It is 'illegal' in the sense that it's blatantly against the rules of most schools and would get you kicked out. We accept a lot of sub-state authorities for defining rules - it's not illegal to hack in SC2 competitions, but we sure as hell are against that too. Of course it's illegal to do that; what are you smoking? It's against the rules of the tournament. It is, by definition, illegal. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
In eu (i guess most of eu...) you don't have that. In med school in my country, homework is only about 6/100 of your final grade. Depending on subject, some a bit more, some a bit less. | ||
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JrClimbers
57 Posts
I get paid per assignment. I used to work for a website that cut take a cut out of each paper, but have since turned to working for myself. I have a small website, but mainly get clients from word of mouth. Pay varies, but is very good for a college student. If you could put an $/hour, it would probably be around $30-40. I charge per page, as well as extra time for reading and research. I also proofread and rewrite papers. Unlike many essay writers, I do not use Wikipedia, but have access to a large college database and library. My citations and bibliographies are perfect. I usually work around 10-20 hours a week, depending on how busy I am. I only write A-quality essays because they pay the best. Personally, I don't see the ethical dilemma. These people will suffer later in life, so why not make some money off this lucrative field. I might get some hate for this, but to a poor college kid, a job is a job, and this is something I'm quite good at. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
It has been an ongoing problem for over 14 years. ._. On January 10 2012 05:16 ArvickHero wrote: I thought colleges mostly circumvented this kind of thing by putting most of the grade weight on tests and stuff you can't get other ppl to do for you Some profs found ways around such things and universities do have a ridiculous archives of student work. Lots of students get caught for plagarism every year; however, it isn't close to enough. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10361 Posts
Also, for those teachers who say that cheating doesn't help in the long run, how it won't work in real life, etc. etc. It most certainly does. If cheating in school doesn't count as cheating in real life, then what is school? An education system that's also easily exploited? They are pretty much admitting that school isn't legit, in which case, again, there should be improvements/reforms. I agree I would like to see the American education system get reformed. I have had many bad experiences and many things I've been very disappointed about... such as the lack of preparation for college, let alone college planning. Hell, my school didn't even talk about the ACT/SAT. You had to figure that out yourself or hope your parents are taking care of you well. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44920 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:21 Gotmog wrote: Thats why these home assignments are bad imo... In eu (i guess most of eu...) you don't have that. In med school in my country, homework is only about 6/100 of your final grade. Depending on subject, some a bit more, some a bit less. I don't think it's fair to characterize by country (or area). In many schools and courses in America, tests count for the vast majority of the grade, whereas papers or homework don't count for much, as well. It often depends on the particular teacher/ professor or subject. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
Sure some classes do rely heavily on essays for grades, but those are english, history and ________ studies classes. If you go into the workplace as an English major who has written one less paper about Rosa Parks, dead philosophers or a novel that was intended to actually be enjoyed I don't think it will be the downfall of humanity. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:25 RoosterSamurai wrote: If you want to graduate from college and be incompetent in your field because you wanted to be lazy, then by all means.... That's a logical fallacy tho, isn't it? What if I pay someone to do my art homework in order to pass the class, then go on to become a craniofacial plastic surgeon? This example is exaggerated, but I thought you might want to know why what you said doesn't make sense | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On January 10 2012 05:28 FallDownMarigold wrote: That's a logical fallacy tho, isn't it? What if I pay someone to do my art homework in order to pass the class, then go on to become a craniofacial plastic surgeon? This example is exaggerated, but I thought you might want to know why what you said doesn't make sense You're also committing a fallacy. You're assuming that someone only does this for 1 or 2 papers, whereas the big concern in this thread (If you read it, you'd know this) is that people just do this for all of their papers. Sure, if you're studying medicine and you pay someone to write your art history essay, who cares? But if you're studying medicine and you pay someone to write all your papers, then the only thing likely in your future is a malpractice suit... | ||
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