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Cytokinesis
Canada330 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
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discobaas
225 Posts
 nvm lol, if u google it you get so many different sites that provide this | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:23 Cytokinesis wrote: On this same site you can also pay people to cheat on tests for you too, by the way. How does that even work? That just sounds idiotic. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
Solution 1: Former student earns degree, gets a job, and proves incompetent. Person is fired. Solution 2: Former student earns degree, gets a job, proves competent and continues on with their life. Conclusion: It doesn't make a difference. You either prove that the homework wasn't really a true test of the knowledge required, or you get what you deserve for being lazy. From the view-point of universities and employers, this shouldn't be a concern. | ||
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tryummm
774 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: There's probably a good chance that the teacher will be able to discern your level of writing from that of the student's in-class garbage essay. Plus, as someone already in acadamia, if you get caught helping students cheat, good luck getting a job elsewhere. I'd look for easy money doing something a bit different. Tutor them instead  Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? If you go to a University with a lot of international students you will see it. Most of them have a difficult time writing children stories for their ESL class, how else will they get a good grade on a comprehensive research paper? | ||
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ArcticMuse
Australia93 Posts
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Derrida
2885 Posts
I am doing a phd in political science, and have written 3-4 page (doublespace) essays for about 10 people for about $15 per page last year, for a total of around $600 in 3 months. They were like engineering students who were forced by the university to take courses in humanities, reading stuff like homer, plato, hobbes etc. I was also offered a good deal of money to write 1-2 chapters of a masters thesis, and I declined. I guess my moral of the story is: if it's something they have no fucking clue about and that they will never use what they learn in their lives, i'm fine with it. | ||
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anApple
Singapore275 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:26 tryummm wrote: If you go to a University with a lot of international students you will see it. Most of them have a difficult time writing children stories for their ESL class, how else will they get a good grade on a comprehensive research paper? Actually, from my experience I have noticed that ESL students have a larger vocabulary and a more grammatically correct forms of writing... | ||
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Cytokinesis
Canada330 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:27 Derrida wrote: I think it's fine for undergraduate. For masters an PhD, it is shady. There are people on this site willing to do masters and phd work for high prices. Now of course when you have to go defend your thesis... | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:31 Cytokinesis wrote: There are people on this site willing to do masters and phd work for high prices. Now of course when you have to go defend your thesis... That is something I would never do. The only justification I can think of for people using this service is because they had to take courses that do not help their major at all... But at PHD level, I would never risk this. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46480 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:26 tryummm wrote: If you go to a University with a lot of international students you will see it. Most of them have a difficult time writing children stories for their ESL class, how else will they get a good grade on a comprehensive research paper? Oh I don't know... maybe by actually learning the language, getting a tutor, getting help from the teacher/ professor, reading their textbook, looking online for extra assistance, or using something like Rosetta Stone?  If they have the money to cheat and ask people to write papers for them (in which they don't learn anything from the experience), they have the money to commit to their education, in one way or the other. And while I haven't talked to many international students, I've also heard that any lazy, rich, white kid who thinks he can get away with it will just as easily try something stupid like this... so I was wondering if there were actual statistics to back up these claims, or if it was just anecdotes. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:14 Snettik wrote: Well if he doesn't learn the stuff he will fail the uncheatable tests. If he learns without writing esseys himself what is the problem? wrong, there's no such thing as uncheatable tests. i study mechanical engineering in university of toronto, and all sorts of cheating occurs; bringing in slips of notes unnoticed, storing formulas on unallowed calculators, and most prominently there are a group of persians in my class who, in every test and exam talk to eachother at the back of the class in persian. sometimes the TA, professors notice the persians talking but nothing ever happens to them. anyhow, i have never had my homework done for me by anyone else, but im not overly pissed off about the issue. most people just want the certificate of graduation and the degree, and really, the education from a lot of courses can't be applied to a lot of jobs after graduation. doing the homework/assignments/essays/reports is not entirely useless however; people like me do it because it helps to practice time management and report writing which will be beneficial in the future. On January 10 2012 00:26 tryummm wrote: If you go to a University with a lot of international students you will see it. Most of them have a difficult time writing children stories for their ESL class, how else will they get a good grade on a comprehensive research paper? i know 2 international students who suck at english, are too lazy to improve, and have friends in english majors to write their essays for them. i also know even more international students who do their own work, and while they have difficulties in verbal communication, they excel in writing (only using translation dictionaries for words they dont know). on second thought maybe my example is not very good since the english level here is pretty high but anyhow, out of around 200 people in my class, there are probably only 50 who stayed more than 5 years in toronto, and i would say only 10were born here. thats a pretty international class. out of the international people i know, the people who want to STAY in canada work on their english. a LOT. i know quite a few people who know for sure that they will return to their home country (china, korea) after graduation, only still, only 2-3 of them dont try to improve their english. | ||
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InfernoStarcraft
Australia136 Posts
On January 10 2012 00:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: There's probably a good chance that the teacher will be able to discern your level of writing from that of the student's in-class garbage essay. Plus, as someone already in acadamia, if you get caught helping students cheat, good luck getting a job elsewhere. I'd look for easy money doing something a bit different. Tutor them instead Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? My University would be a prime source. My uni has a half to more than half Asian student body, and A LOT of them can barely speak the language (even though they are supposed to pass an English competency test, but bribes are effective study methods, not kidding either, the guys in charge got fired and I believe fined some amount last year for getting caught). Just saying from experience it happens a lot more than you would imagine depending on the type of institution your at. | ||
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OrangeApples
137 Posts
Second, you won't gain the experience necessary for outside the school situation that you COULD have gained. eg (where x = subject) 1. you pass x on a assignment that someone wrote for you 2. you fail x on the exam portion but still pass the exam 3. workplace requires x skill and asks you to demonstrate your skill 4. your screwed or 2. you fail x on the exam portion 3. brings you below compulsory requirement on exam (ie 40% is the minimal requirement on exam to pass course) 4. you lose money and time Of course, when it comes to higher levels like masters and phd, you really don't deserve to be there at all if you have to cheat like this. Also, if you get caught get ready to lose your entire career and credit at that point. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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kef
283 Posts
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Kybuar
United States93 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46480 Posts
On January 10 2012 01:01 Kybuar wrote: Will, I had two friends who had to take a geometry class over a website, and they did not want to do it. I did it for them in a week, while it would normally take them a month or so. I dont see the big deal really. What if geometry was a prerequisite for a higher-level math class, and they needed that knowledge to perform well in the next course? They're screwed. Even if it was a general education requirement and not for the students' major, colleges ask for those to be taken so that students become well-rounded individuals. Even if a class isn't necessarily practical in a future job, that doesn't exempt a person from taking it. That's why some people might consider you excusing another student from their necessary education a "big deal". You're not a dean of that school. So whether you think it's okay or not think it's okay, at least recognize why people may have the other opinion. | ||
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