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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 20 2013 00:34 GMT
#5061
On August 20 2013 09:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 09:27 QuanticHawk wrote:
On August 20 2013 09:14 aTnClouD wrote:
I'm seeing this girl in the last month. She's great but her schoolmates (she's 17) don't consider her cause she's asian and italians are racist LOL
She has absolutely no experience cause of age and environment and sometimes the things I do and say feel a bit like complete overkill, but it's awesome to give somebody a mindblowing experience.
The only thing is that she's really spoiled and when the parents said they don't want her to go out with me and in protest she cut her wrist. Fucking emo kids everywhere srsly.

MOOOOOOOOOM, i'm sevenTEEN! That's practically an adult!!! He's only 26!!!


Nine years apart!?!? That's like a senior in high school dating a third grader. Ewwwwwwwwww.

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My parents are nine years apart.

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They're divorced.


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My parents were 3 years apart

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They're divorced.


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Everyone's divorced.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 00:35 GMT
#5062
it's worth going on a date or two just to either prove to yourself that you are right, or be plesantly surprised. win-win
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Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 22:42:02
August 20 2013 00:41 GMT
#5063
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
August 20 2013 00:42 GMT
#5064
Hey let's not be too focused on the age difference
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#5065
please tell me some more about your sweeping generalizations of italian women based on your experiences wooing children with sick alpha nerd pua game
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
August 20 2013 00:47 GMT
#5066
b more mad pls quant
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 00:55:21
August 20 2013 00:54 GMT
#5067
On August 20 2013 09:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 09:21 NotSorry wrote:
Funny story: About a month ago, I'm doing some shopping and I get the idea to run some day game for shits and giggles and I see this really ex-trophy wife cougar type from the side and behind, absolutely stunning, so I get my game face on and walk up to her ready to try and pick her up and before I even get a word out she turns around with the biggest smile and calls out my name, at this point my jaw hits the floor as I realize it's my old highschool friend's mother. She comes up and gives me a big hug and asks about the family and the whole time I'm just like derrrr what just happened to me...


Good shit, man. A hug is halfway to second base. You're so in there.
Her talking to me like I was still 14, just took me so far out of the right mind set. I should have kept going for it lol
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 01:04:16
August 20 2013 01:03 GMT
#5068
On August 20 2013 09:41 Chemist391 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 09:35 QuanticHawk wrote:
it's worth going on a date or two just to either prove to yourself that you are right, or be plesantly surprised. win-win


Indeed. The test of all knowledge is experiment.

best way to approach dating early on. all you are wasting is a few hours and a few bucks. not really a big deal to be wrong

On August 20 2013 09:47 aTnClouD wrote:
b more mad pls quant


hardly mad; humored is more accurate
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 20 2013 01:06 GMT
#5069
On August 20 2013 09:42 aTnClouD wrote:
Hey let's not be too focused on the age difference


I think it's less about the number and more about the fact that she's still in highschool and you're of the age that people typically have finished college and are starting their careers. Then again I don't know either of you so I can't really comment on the relationship, other than she seems very immature if she cut her wrists in response to her parents saying you two can't date.

There's an 18yo girl in my class that I sort of liked for a while (I just turned 23) but I realized the age difference was too big of a deal for me to really put effort into pursuing her.
goMERICA
Profile Joined August 2011
United States29 Posts
August 20 2013 01:10 GMT
#5070
What's up guys. I have some information on the dating meta that everyone here ought to know. Information which will no doubt be met with criticism but may help some of you out. About myself: I am a 23 year old guy living in Fort Worth, Texas who has had great dating success since early high school. Considering what I'm about to say, that will sound a little stupid in retrospect but nevertheless keep it in mind.

Online dating has changed drastically in the past half year with the social media app Tinder becoming very popular. It has made most of the other sites/apps temporarily irrelevant within the 18-30 age range in America. The idea is that you link your account to your Facebook, allowing (hopefully) current pictures to be easily uploaded to your profile. Profiles are almost completely based on the four or so pictures you upload; there isn't much room for adding a personal description. Next, when you are ready to search, you are shown pictures of women's profiles one by one and all you do is check yes or no based on looks. You can view 500 profiles in 20 minutes if you know what you like in terms of looks. Distance from you, age, and proximity within the Facebook network is primarily what determines whose profile you are shown. When someone checks yes to your profile, it will give priority to their profile and show them to you so you can check yes or no. When two people mutually check "yes", a connection is made and you are able to send that person a message.

The big difference between Tinder and other online dating mediums is that the ratio of women to men is far greater than on the other sites because it's viewed as less creepy. Why is it less creepy? Two big reasons. First, girls aren't bombarded from messages from guys they think of being below their league, and second, girls think that guys are less likely to put false information on there in the form of pictures or description as the accounts are linked to Facebook and many matches are made via friends of friends (you can see who your mutual friends are with the person if you have any).

I have explored my fair share of online dating mediums and this is by far my favorite. You don't have to deal with the issue of wondering whether this person is attracted to you or not; you already know they are feelin' you and they already know you are feelin' them! You can go straight to flirting and don't have to give a bullshit description of yourself really fast, hoping that you'll draw them in with what you claim to be your personality traits. That shit is overplayed and no one really wants to hear it; people just say it because they feel like it's necessary. You can just talk to them and get to that stuff gradually along the way.

On to the criticisms I'd expect to hear from people, namely that the system is shallow as hell, disregards the intellectual side of romance and you'll never be matched with someone whose inner beauty is makes you attracted to their outer beauty. That beauty won't last forevery, duh! These are basically all true. But at the end of the day you're going through so many people on there that you will find, out of say 15 or so matches, someone who you get along with. It's a trade that I welcome for knowing that the girls I'm chatting with are actually attracted to me.

Now let me talk about the success I've had on Tinder. I've chatted with approximately 50 girls on there so far over the past two months and 1/2 of them have asked to meet up before I even offered. Typically they have offered their cell #s at the conclusion of a night's chatting with the excuse that they didn't wanna chat on there any more("just text me! # here"), and at that point I make them add me on Facebook so I can make sure they are legit. After a couple days of chatting they ask about meeting up. In total I've been on 10 dates from there and most of them turned out to be a friendship type chemistry going on but a few have been more. Twice I have been asked out in less than 20 lines of text, and one of those girls was damn near perfect as far as what my type is. She used me to buy her drinks, but you know what that's okay cuz we're going out this weekend again, and I think I have a great shot. All of the chicks I have met have been pretty and most have been beautiful. One of them has become a good friend for the time being.

For the Tinder newbs: if you have had good success with dating, then check yes and no based on the kind of girls you WANT to date in terms of looks. If you haven't had good success with dating, check yes on every girl so you can gauge which girls are in your league. Remember, out of everyone who checks yes to you, you get to choose which girls you spend your time talking to. Prioritize the ones who attract you the most. And above all else, DO NOT become discouraged if it doesn't work out with a particular chick. Move on and talk to other girls.

It's free and you have nothing to lose, so give it a try.

TL;DR
Check out Tinder, the new online dating app, for it is the most popular thing out right now and the online dating medium most likely to lead to you actually meeting someone. I and many people I know have had good success with it.
And what were thou, and earth, and stars, and sea, if to the human mind's imaginings, silence and solitude were vacancy
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 20 2013 01:15 GMT
#5071
On August 20 2013 09:42 aTnClouD wrote:
Hey let's not be too focused on the age difference


I love you man, but I think that her cutting her wrists as a sign of outrage against her parents shows that she might be a little young to truly gauge what is in her best interests. Her parents may be right, every person is different, regardless of consent.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46400 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 01:17:41
August 20 2013 01:17 GMT
#5072
On to the criticisms I'd expect to hear from people, namely that the system is shallow as hell, disregards the intellectual side of romance and you'll never be matched with someone whose inner beauty is makes you attracted to their outer beauty.


Yeah, these were pretty much all my concerns too when you said this Tinder thing is solely based on looks. While they're important, it's surely better to have more information than less (and the other, more popular, dating sites include many other things in a person's bio along with pictures).

TL;DR
Check out Tinder, the new online dating app, for it is the most popular thing out right now and the online dating medium most likely to lead to you actually meeting someone. I and many people I know have had good success with it.


Also, I don't know if this is practically advertising.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
goMERICA
Profile Joined August 2011
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 01:21:34
August 20 2013 01:20 GMT
#5073
On August 20 2013 10:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On to the criticisms I'd expect to hear from people, namely that the system is shallow as hell, disregards the intellectual side of romance and you'll never be matched with someone whose inner beauty is makes you attracted to their outer beauty.


Yeah, these were pretty much all my concerns too when you said this Tinder thing is solely based on looks. While they're important, it's surely better to have more information than less (and the other, more popular, dating sites include many other things in a person's bio along with pictures).

Show nested quote +
TL;DR
Check out Tinder, the new online dating app, for it is the most popular thing out right now and the online dating medium most likely to lead to you actually meeting someone. I and many people I know have had good success with it.


Also, I don't know if this is practically advertising.



I'm only advertising it because I think a lot of people who read this thread are having bad luck with dating. Once a better online dating medium comes out, use that by all means.

I agree with you that less information is worse than more information. But the thing is that you get that information when you talk to them. As in the same thing that happens when you choose to approach a girl in real life. You know she's attractive enough and your conversation is what allows you to get to know whether or not she might be a match for you.

You're trading the chance to get information on them without knowing them for the comfort of knowing that they're already attracted to you (and the wider selection that you get from this particular app).

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And what were thou, and earth, and stars, and sea, if to the human mind's imaginings, silence and solitude were vacancy
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 01:21 GMT
#5074
it seemed like a totally valid personal take on a site to me
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
August 20 2013 01:25 GMT
#5075
The signal to noise ratio in online dating sucks, actually talking with people whom you meet day to day works wonders, y'all should try it. Here's the kicker: no app! Who knew?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46400 Posts
August 20 2013 01:27 GMT
#5076
On August 20 2013 10:25 farvacola wrote:
The signal to noise ratio in online dating sucks, actually talking with people whom you meet day to day works wonders, y'all should try it. Here's the kicker: no app! Who knew?


Reality: There's an app for that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 20 2013 01:32 GMT
#5077
it's a nice supplement to meeting people normally, and there are some normal people on there. there's also an equal amount of weirdos on online dating, guys and girls, and you should probably just do it once to experience that madness, if for no other reason hahhahaha.

but for real though, the trope about online dating being only for weirdos and shut-ins is totally not true. but i guess that varies depending on where you are
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goMERICA
Profile Joined August 2011
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 01:41:02
August 20 2013 01:38 GMT
#5078
Thanks QuanticHawk, and you are right. Not everyone is weird online. God forbid people who know one another from TeamLiquid actually get the chance to meet in a bar at some point. As for the guy who was talking about signal-to-noise, that's what the whole system takes out: having to send out introduction message to 50 girls just to get a few responses. If you don't know how to meet a gal in real life, then chances are your social skills need improvement before you're even ready for dating. But I have a lot of friends who are good looking but can't pick up girls for shit, but once they get a girl on a date they have good success. Tinder would work well for them. Likewise for people who have success picking up girls... it's just another avenue to meeting ladies whose company you might enjoy.

Not going to defend the app's merits any longer because I've said everything I can really, and I'm not the type to sit here and argue or make fun of my TeamLiquid buddies.
And what were thou, and earth, and stars, and sea, if to the human mind's imaginings, silence and solitude were vacancy
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 20 2013 01:39 GMT
#5079
All this static about age difference almost makes me feel bad for pick up highschool girls, almost.

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 20 2013 01:46 GMT
#5080
lol wow, after seeing all the posts with 'insights' on dating and 'handling women' from Cloud it's mind-blowingly funny (albeit not completely unexpected) to see him trying to hook up with a wrist-cutting teenager :p

btw. you're a supposedly grown-up man trying to date a high schooler. It's creepy. As in, really "get the hell away from her" kind of creepy.
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