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On August 20 2013 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 07:33 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 20 2013 06:27 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 20 2013 01:25 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 19 2013 20:06 Meborg wrote:
Armor is the wrong word, as it implies defensive. Women like it when men go on the counter offense. Women will shit-test you, and you gotta call them on it. If women try to bait a response from you, just derail their attempts to get information from you and tease them with some random stuff. Knowing stuff is boring, it's about imagination. So even if you know the answer to the question she's asking, make her use her imagination to get to the answer.
For example, when you're drinking a proper beer, and she says "I hate beer", you just respond with "Yeah I really hate it too!" followed by taking a big tug of your beer. She will call you on the fact that you are drinking beer even though you just said you hate beer. Then just respond with some bullshit that your particular beer is wine-flavored, because of the way you drink it.
Dont know if the above example works in practice, but it makes her imagine whether the beer actually does taste like wine or something. The only way she can know for sure however is if she drinks the beer. And that's sort of what you want. you are just gonna come off as weird and probably a pua if you try that on a date Yeah I agree. If you want to make a joke out of claiming to hate beer while drinking it, that could be okay... but acting like some elitist snob about a topic that your date doesn't even like... it's better to change the subject or ask her what drinks she does like. Yeah, making a joke like "I don't drink" with a sly smile when you're double fisting is funny. Trying to be smart when you know nothing about the topic, just to show dominance is just a characteristic of a fool. On August 20 2013 06:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't even know why you'd want to touch any girl that tries to "shit test" you or any of that other stupid shit, but I guess I have to thank the class acts that go out there and trudge through the street rat trash so I don't have to. All girls will test you to see how much shit you'll put up with. They want to know the limits they can operate within, as well as what kind of a person you are (bitch that will do anything vs hyper dominant alpha vs anything in between). If you think they don't, you're either oblivious or naive. You should be doing the same with these women, feeling them out to find where their limits are. I'd rather know what pisses off my girlfriend when I first meet her than find out the hard way when it's too late. That sounds like an awful way to get to know somebody and thankfully I have the dignity to not put up with that. There are other types of girls besides the ones you meet in bars and clubs that will not try to piss you off for fun (as if that's some revelation to any normal human being) You seem totally oblivious to the world around you. Are you still in high school? You don't have to put up with it for them to try it. Past gfs want to see how much drama is deal with, when they realized I'd put up with none of it, there was no more drama in the relationship. These low class girls you seem to be inferring, does that include a girl that's a 4.0 engineering grad that got a good job with a major oil company directly out of school that's also a dance instructor for fun on the side? Because she tested my limits, as I tested hers, near the beginning of our 3 year relationship. We had exactly 2 fights during that entire time. Well here's your problem: You are projecting your life onto other people like you think anyone gives a shit. Im out of school completely and the fact that you think I am in high school when I don't have time for a personality trait I don't like just shows what a snide and clueless asshole you are. As an aside, a girl that works for a major oil company doesn't exactly impress me. Zero moral values isn't what I look for in women, which goes perfectly well with your PUA persona so I'm sure you guys had fun shitting on eachother's faces or whatever it was.
Atleast you got one thing right in your post. Chad is definitely an ass.
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On August 20 2013 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 07:33 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 20 2013 06:27 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 20 2013 01:25 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 19 2013 20:06 Meborg wrote:
Armor is the wrong word, as it implies defensive. Women like it when men go on the counter offense. Women will shit-test you, and you gotta call them on it. If women try to bait a response from you, just derail their attempts to get information from you and tease them with some random stuff. Knowing stuff is boring, it's about imagination. So even if you know the answer to the question she's asking, make her use her imagination to get to the answer.
For example, when you're drinking a proper beer, and she says "I hate beer", you just respond with "Yeah I really hate it too!" followed by taking a big tug of your beer. She will call you on the fact that you are drinking beer even though you just said you hate beer. Then just respond with some bullshit that your particular beer is wine-flavored, because of the way you drink it.
Dont know if the above example works in practice, but it makes her imagine whether the beer actually does taste like wine or something. The only way she can know for sure however is if she drinks the beer. And that's sort of what you want. you are just gonna come off as weird and probably a pua if you try that on a date Yeah I agree. If you want to make a joke out of claiming to hate beer while drinking it, that could be okay... but acting like some elitist snob about a topic that your date doesn't even like... it's better to change the subject or ask her what drinks she does like. Yeah, making a joke like "I don't drink" with a sly smile when you're double fisting is funny. Trying to be smart when you know nothing about the topic, just to show dominance is just a characteristic of a fool. On August 20 2013 06:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't even know why you'd want to touch any girl that tries to "shit test" you or any of that other stupid shit, but I guess I have to thank the class acts that go out there and trudge through the street rat trash so I don't have to. All girls will test you to see how much shit you'll put up with. They want to know the limits they can operate within, as well as what kind of a person you are (bitch that will do anything vs hyper dominant alpha vs anything in between). If you think they don't, you're either oblivious or naive. You should be doing the same with these women, feeling them out to find where their limits are. I'd rather know what pisses off my girlfriend when I first meet her than find out the hard way when it's too late. That sounds like an awful way to get to know somebody and thankfully I have the dignity to not put up with that. There are other types of girls besides the ones you meet in bars and clubs that will not try to piss you off for fun (as if that's some revelation to any normal human being) You seem totally oblivious to the world around you. Are you still in high school? You don't have to put up with it for them to try it. Past gfs want to see how much drama is deal with, when they realized I'd put up with none of it, there was no more drama in the relationship. These low class girls you seem to be inferring, does that include a girl that's a 4.0 engineering grad that got a good job with a major oil company directly out of school that's also a dance instructor for fun on the side? Because she tested my limits, as I tested hers, near the beginning of our 3 year relationship. We had exactly 2 fights during that entire time. Well here's your problem: You are projecting your life onto other people like you think anyone gives a shit. Im out of school completely and the fact that you think I am in high school when I don't have time for a personality trait I don't like just shows what a snide and clueless asshole you are. As an aside, a girl that works for a major oil company doesn't exactly impress me. Zero moral values isn't what I look for in women, which goes perfectly well with your PUA persona so I'm sure you guys had fun shitting on eachother's faces or whatever it was.
You automatically default to a PUA argument without knowing anything about me, much like you are accusing me of doing the opposite. Like it or not, girls are going to see how you handle various situations. They don't have to be fabricated, but you don't think a girl wants to know how much she can lean on you? How you're going to act when she calls you in tears?
In response to your aside, you instantly judge without knowing the full details once again. You don't know her specialty, what job she works or anything else about her. You assume oil company = evil person. Your assumptions an condescending attitude won't get you far.
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On August 20 2013 07:58 chadissilent wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 20 2013 07:33 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 20 2013 06:27 chadissilent wrote:On August 20 2013 01:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On August 20 2013 01:25 QuanticHawk wrote:On August 19 2013 20:06 Meborg wrote:
Armor is the wrong word, as it implies defensive. Women like it when men go on the counter offense. Women will shit-test you, and you gotta call them on it. If women try to bait a response from you, just derail their attempts to get information from you and tease them with some random stuff. Knowing stuff is boring, it's about imagination. So even if you know the answer to the question she's asking, make her use her imagination to get to the answer.
For example, when you're drinking a proper beer, and she says "I hate beer", you just respond with "Yeah I really hate it too!" followed by taking a big tug of your beer. She will call you on the fact that you are drinking beer even though you just said you hate beer. Then just respond with some bullshit that your particular beer is wine-flavored, because of the way you drink it.
Dont know if the above example works in practice, but it makes her imagine whether the beer actually does taste like wine or something. The only way she can know for sure however is if she drinks the beer. And that's sort of what you want. you are just gonna come off as weird and probably a pua if you try that on a date Yeah I agree. If you want to make a joke out of claiming to hate beer while drinking it, that could be okay... but acting like some elitist snob about a topic that your date doesn't even like... it's better to change the subject or ask her what drinks she does like. Yeah, making a joke like "I don't drink" with a sly smile when you're double fisting is funny. Trying to be smart when you know nothing about the topic, just to show dominance is just a characteristic of a fool. On August 20 2013 06:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't even know why you'd want to touch any girl that tries to "shit test" you or any of that other stupid shit, but I guess I have to thank the class acts that go out there and trudge through the street rat trash so I don't have to. All girls will test you to see how much shit you'll put up with. They want to know the limits they can operate within, as well as what kind of a person you are (bitch that will do anything vs hyper dominant alpha vs anything in between). If you think they don't, you're either oblivious or naive. You should be doing the same with these women, feeling them out to find where their limits are. I'd rather know what pisses off my girlfriend when I first meet her than find out the hard way when it's too late. That sounds like an awful way to get to know somebody and thankfully I have the dignity to not put up with that. There are other types of girls besides the ones you meet in bars and clubs that will not try to piss you off for fun (as if that's some revelation to any normal human being) You seem totally oblivious to the world around you. Are you still in high school? You don't have to put up with it for them to try it. Past gfs want to see how much drama is deal with, when they realized I'd put up with none of it, there was no more drama in the relationship. These low class girls you seem to be inferring, does that include a girl that's a 4.0 engineering grad that got a good job with a major oil company directly out of school that's also a dance instructor for fun on the side? Because she tested my limits, as I tested hers, near the beginning of our 3 year relationship. We had exactly 2 fights during that entire time. Well here's your problem: You are projecting your life onto other people like you think anyone gives a shit. Im out of school completely and the fact that you think I am in high school when I don't have time for a personality trait I don't like just shows what a snide and clueless asshole you are. As an aside, a girl that works for a major oil company doesn't exactly impress me. Zero moral values isn't what I look for in women, which goes perfectly well with your PUA persona so I'm sure you guys had fun shitting on eachother's faces or whatever it was. You automatically default to a PUA argument without knowing anything about me, much like you are accusing me of doing the opposite. Like it or not, girls are going to see how you handle various situations. They don't have to be fabricated, but you don't think a girl wants to know how much she can lean on you? How you're going to act when she calls you in tears? In response to your aside, you instantly judge without knowing the full details once again. You don't know her specialty, what job she works or anything else about her. You assume oil company = evil person. Your assumptions an condescending attitude won't get you far.
And you just described yourself.
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Of course I'm a condescending person, what gave it away, my nickname? hurpdurp.
That was me trying to have a rational conversation about something that was making me lol when I was reading the thread but yes it clearly has just degraded into us ad hom attacking each other so I'm done with it now.
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more funny stories less circle jerking lads
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On August 20 2013 08:26 Chemist391 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 08:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
more funny stories less circle jerking lads Yes, please. I came here for comic relief and now I just feel like this: + Show Spoiler +I'm going to go on a date with an undergrad soon (she's a senior, 21 yrs old). I'm a grad student. This probably isn't a good idea, but we'll see.
How old are you? If you're ~22, it really won't be that different lol.
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On August 20 2013 08:26 Chemist391 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 08:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
more funny stories less circle jerking lads Yes, please. I came here for comic relief and now I just feel like this: + Show Spoiler +I'm going to go on a date with an undergrad soon (she's a senior, 21 yrs old). I'm a grad student. This probably isn't a good idea, but we'll see.
You think going on a date with a 21yr old college chick is a bad idea? Plz give number and I'll take her off your hands.
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Plot twist: He's 38yo and by court order not allowed to approach girls closer than 10 ft.
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if you are a grad student, it's understandable why you'd be hesitant on dating someone in that position. big difference there usually, even if youre only a year or two apart in age.
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I'm seeing this girl in the last month. She's great but her schoolmates (she's 17) don't consider her cause she's asian and italians are racist LOL
She has absolutely no experience cause of age and environment and sometimes the things I do and say feel a bit like complete overkill, but it's awesome to give somebody a mindblowing experience.
The only thing is that she's really spoiled and when the parents said they don't want her to go out with me and in protest she cut her wrist. Fucking emo kids everywhere srsly.
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Funny story: About a month ago, I'm doing some shopping and I get the idea to run some day game for shits and giggles and I see this really ex-trophy wife cougar type from the side and behind, absolutely stunning, so I get my game face on and walk up to her ready to try and pick her up and before I even get a word out she turns around with the biggest smile and calls out my name, at this point my jaw hits the floor as I realize it's my old highschool friend's mother. She comes up and gives me a big hug and asks about the family and the whole time I'm just like derrrr what just happened to me...
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On August 20 2013 09:21 NotSorry wrote:
Funny story: About a month ago, I'm doing some shopping and I get the idea to run some day game for shits and giggles and I see this really ex-trophy wife cougar type from the side and behind, absolutely stunning, so I get my game face on and walk up to her ready to try and pick her up and before I even get a word out she turns around with the biggest smile and calls out my name, at this point my jaw hits the floor as I realize it's my old highschool friend's mother. She comes up and gives me a big hug and asks about the family and the whole time I'm just like derrrr what just happened to me...
Good shit, man. A hug is halfway to second base. You're so in there.
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On August 20 2013 09:20 Chemist391 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 09:14 aTnClouD wrote:
I'm seeing this girl in the last month. She's great but her schoolmates (she's 17) don't consider her cause she's asian and italians are racist LOL
She has absolutely no experience cause of age and environment and sometimes the things I do and say feel a bit like complete overkill, but it's awesome to give somebody a mindblowing experience.
The only thing is that she's really spoiled and when the parents said they don't want her to go out with me and in protest she cut her wrist. Fucking emo kids everywhere srsly. Is this for real? According to your liquipedia page, you're 26...sounds like she's too young? What's the age of consent in Italy? That'd be a slam-dunk on a statutory conviction in the U.S. And the wrists...wtf am I reading.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=age of consent in Italy
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On August 20 2013 09:14 aTnClouD wrote:
I'm seeing this girl in the last month. She's great but her schoolmates (she's 17) don't consider her cause she's asian and italians are racist LOL
She has absolutely no experience cause of age and environment and sometimes the things I do and say feel a bit like complete overkill, but it's awesome to give somebody a mindblowing experience.
The only thing is that she's really spoiled and when the parents said they don't want her to go out with me and in protest she cut her wrist. Fucking emo kids everywhere srsly.
MOOOOOOOOOM, i'm sevenTEEN! That's practically an adult!!! He's only 26!!!
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On August 20 2013 09:27 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 09:14 aTnClouD wrote:
I'm seeing this girl in the last month. She's great but her schoolmates (she's 17) don't consider her cause she's asian and italians are racist LOL
She has absolutely no experience cause of age and environment and sometimes the things I do and say feel a bit like complete overkill, but it's awesome to give somebody a mindblowing experience.
The only thing is that she's really spoiled and when the parents said they don't want her to go out with me and in protest she cut her wrist. Fucking emo kids everywhere srsly. MOOOOOOOOOM, i'm sevenTEEN! That's practically an adult!!! He's only 26!!!
Nine years apart!?!? That's like a senior in high school dating a third grader. Ewwwwwwwwww.
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i could see many exceptions when 9 years apart aint a big deal. when one person still isnt thru puberty isnt one of those cases!
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On August 20 2013 08:26 Chemist391 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 08:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
more funny stories less circle jerking lads Yes, please. I came here for comic relief and now I just feel like this: + Show Spoiler +I'm going to go on a date with an undergrad soon (she's a senior, 21 yrs old). I'm a grad student. This probably isn't a good idea, but we'll see.
Even if you're not the same general major it's all good. I went out with a grad student when I was in college and it was fun, not awkward at all. Even though it was a large college I knew and took classes with most of the keyboard grad students, so even if we hung out with her friends I wasn't completely lost.
If you're worried about it being a bad idea either call it quits before you see her or forget about it and enjoy yourself. Unless you are really 38 years old, dat'd be a tad creepy.
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