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Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 03:38:45
August 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#81
Hated. There will always be those select few people who think you were some kind of badass. And being immortal (in a way) is just kind of cool.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 14 2011 03:40 GMT
#82
Why teh fuck would you want a legacy like Hitlers.
Vore210
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 03:45:12
August 14 2011 03:41 GMT
#83
Where's the who cares option? You're dead, it doesn't matter. The most important thing has already happened, and it kinda eclipses all others :p.

Obviously if the hatred were based on actions i've committed, I wouldn't want to have done anything to earn that hatred and would choose "forgotten".

But if its just a case of being hated for no reason other than some frequently spread propaganda after I die, I couldn't care less.
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
August 14 2011 03:44 GMT
#84
Hated but in a good way. Like, hated for introducing a new "mental" currency that made the money of billionaires worthless xD

"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 14 2011 03:44 GMT
#85
Forgotten. If I were hated it would probably be for some terrible shit and I wouldn't want to do that even if it meant eternal fame.
merlin101
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland194 Posts
August 14 2011 03:44 GMT
#86
Even if your hated by 99.999% some people will still love you and think you did the right thing!
dBaser
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 14 2011 03:48 GMT
#87
I would rather be known as someone who was friendly and be forgotten when I pass. People that are naturally evil dickheads are a disease and I sympathize for them.
StinkyBoots
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada76 Posts
August 14 2011 03:56 GMT
#88
Reminds me of Achilles. Want to live a long "meaningless" life or a short "legendary" life?
Eh?
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
August 14 2011 03:57 GMT
#89
Obviously forgotten as hated would imply me doing something sick.
T.BonePickens
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States50 Posts
August 14 2011 04:01 GMT
#90
I would rather have my imprint left on the world rather then be forgotten forever. I mean how awesome would it be to have memes of yourself LONG after you are gone? I mean come on, no one wants to die without being remembered for something
All Greatness begins Small
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 04:08:55
August 14 2011 04:07 GMT
#91
There're bunches of people who did the right things and still be remembered forever, such as <enter some random names here you know>. Why on earth do I want to be hated forever? The thing is, if I'm capable of doing something bad enough to be remembered forever, I may be also capable of doing something good enough to be remembered. It's just my path to choose, although it's easier to do something bad in a good society than do something good, just like it's easier to do something good in a bad society.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
August 14 2011 04:16 GMT
#92
being immortal is being immortal. why do people get so concerned about their reputation, lol.
I get brain like a skull
Chaoz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States507 Posts
August 14 2011 05:05 GMT
#93
I'll be dead so I wouldn't give a crap. However, if I ever achieve Hitler status it would really suck for my descendants.
Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
August 14 2011 05:19 GMT
#94
I'd rather be hated, because then I'd have a legacy for my descendants, which might make life worse for them but at least they will always remember me. It'd be like a death present to my children. Imfamy is oftentimes better than being forgotten, the reason for why I am hated will be let known to all the children, so they won't repeat whatever crimes or mistakes I commit in this theoretical procedure.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
August 14 2011 05:41 GMT
#95
i don't want to hijack the thread but i'm always curious why people use hitler as an example of evil rather than stalin. always thought stalin killed FAR more people.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 14 2011 05:50 GMT
#96
I don't get the obsession with "being remembered" in general. Seems to be a huge theme in all kinds of art and media. If I do something I do it because i think it's right not because I want people who i don't know and who will never know me personally remember my name.
Certainly not for something horrible. I don't care much about my name being said in the future...
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 14 2011 05:57 GMT
#97
Actually, this question has brought up issues that I've struggled with for years.

After battling all my life with the acceptance of death I feel happy that I'm able to clearly state that the answer to this question 100% does not matter either way. This sort of question would have sent me into deep thought in the past but it's nice that I seem to have finally accepted that what happens after you die does not matter, at all.

It's weird to finally say that I don't care about my legacy or what people think of me, posthumously. In years past I would have been obsessed with building a "successful" life and at least some form of legacy. However: the poem Ozymandias can be cited as a succinct explanation of my current feelings in this regard.

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


Quite a depressing poem, if you fear death, I think. But the poem is also liberating if viewed in the right way: this life is what we have, and there can be no true legacy for any human; all passes away in the end. Certainly there is no one who remembers the deeds of anyone before the year 6000 BC or so. Eventually there will be no one who remembers Hitler and his deeds, or Churchill and his deeds, or Jesus Christ and his deeds. The sands of time wash will wash everything away in the end.

But what this means for us is that a completely fulfilling life can be had by simply living it the best you can. Living life "the best you can" differs from person to person, whether it's going out and becoming President, or writing essays on mortality on internet gaming forums.

Since one's deeds become meaningless given enough time, and since death inevitably occurs, rendering anything that happens after death meaningless, what happens before death is what is important.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
TheCrimsonReaper
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
August 14 2011 06:00 GMT
#98
I would take hated. What is the point of living if you aren't going to leave a mark?

Hatred is sometimes a mark of respect, honestly though, you can be hated and still have contributed positively to humanity, helped your country or done something generally good. All hatred means is you might have stepped on some toes in doing so.
"The emperor protects"
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
August 14 2011 06:19 GMT
#99
Hated. If I was that hated, I must've done something huge. I must've been a powerful person during my life. That's better than being completely and utterly forgotten.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
August 14 2011 06:22 GMT
#100
It will all wash away in the entropy death of the universe anyway.
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