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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#201
Interesting question and poll!
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
August 15 2011 05:06 GMT
#202
I would love to be hated forever for exiling a bunch of mutants and misfits to the Koprulu Sector and then sending a fleet to conquer the sector after.
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
August 15 2011 05:08 GMT
#203
Forgotten, i dont se why in hell someone would like to be hated? Do you really need attention even after your dead?

"!@€#" - as some guy said
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 15 2011 05:20 GMT
#204
Forgotten. Being hated may bring negative consequences to friends/family after you're gone.
Stealth_Mel0n
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia43 Posts
August 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#205
i wonder if this can get 20000...
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
August 15 2011 09:26 GMT
#206
On August 14 2011 10:04 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I suspect this thread will be both :p


HAHAHAHAHA omg.

ontopic- i wouldnt really care since i am dead but if i had to choose then i would choose to be forgotten as i dont want my family to be disgraced
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 09:34:12
August 15 2011 09:33 GMT
#207
Hated I think.

I think Napoleon Bonaparte said "History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon", which I believe. I would naturally want to find evidence that supports my beliefs, and being hated as a great villain when you were not in fact would just support that belief.
mustache
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland309 Posts
August 15 2011 10:31 GMT
#208
seems like a bunch of people talking out of their ass tbh.

about a third of all people (if we extrapolate these results to the entire world population) would, if given the choice, press a button which launches hundreds of nukes, resulting in the death of billions of people, right before their death rather than dieing normally(dieing normally means you WILL be forgotten, mabye not right away but within 2-3 generations you will)

So if we assume that people who voted "hated" actually mean it and aren't trying to be "deep" (whatever the hell that means) then why dont 1 of 3 people go on a killing spree before they die?

sorry but i dont buy the results of this poll.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 11:07:45
August 15 2011 10:59 GMT
#209
Although my first thought was that being hated like Hitler for a time, as an unfortunate way of being held in public memory long enough to potentially have positive historical influence when people eventually change their minds about me, does sound desirable and definitely preferable, the "for eternity" clause does do away with that possibility. I'd prefer to be forgotten, prefer 0 over a negative integer as a value of the impact of my life.

Edit: Actually the question wasn't about the impact of my life.... Actually this is a very complicated question! Back to STX teamleague.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
August 15 2011 11:39 GMT
#210
If i was forgotten by friends, family and everyone, noone would know I was there in the first place, so i wouldn't be missed. No tears... I've been up for 24 hours now so sorry if nothing makes any sense.
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
August 15 2011 18:47 GMT
#211
So many people would kill millions for no real gain at all.
And so many dont just because it would probably suck for their relatives.

Sad world.
Grajen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden24 Posts
August 15 2011 18:54 GMT
#212
Why would anyone be so desperate to be remembered? Sounds a bit narcissistic tbh. I wouldn't mind being forgotten even if the other option was being loved, I'm dead, what do I care?
Turn on, tune in, drop out
SoylentCreep
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)176 Posts
August 15 2011 18:57 GMT
#213
Going down in a blaze of glory ( or hatred) sounds fun in theory but I think I'd rather be forgotten.
I will disappear and no one will ever know I was there.... sad panda day.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
August 15 2011 19:12 GMT
#214
I would rather be forgotten than hated, but I would rather be misunderstood than forgotten.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
August 15 2011 19:15 GMT
#215
I'm going to be forgotten eventually anyway, and it doesn't seem so bad.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
August 15 2011 19:16 GMT
#216
Famously, Herostratus made this choice, and decided he would like to be hated.

From wikipedia:
On July 21, 356 BC, Herostratus set fire to the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus in what is now Turkey... Measuring 130 metres long (425 feet) and supported by columns 18 metres high (60 feet), it was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World.

Far from attempting to evade responsibility for his act of arson, Herostratus proudly claimed credit in an attempt to immortalize his name. To dissuade those of a similar mind, the Ephesian authorities not only executed him, but attempted to condemn him to a legacy of obscurity by forbidding mention of his name under penalty of death.
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
August 15 2011 19:28 GMT
#217
Almost everyone die and is forgotten in 40-50 years or so, so that's not a big deal for me. Being hated for eternity kinda sucks if you get kids and stuff. So I'd rather be forgotten.
hytonight
Profile Joined April 2011
303 Posts
August 15 2011 19:30 GMT
#218
isnt it better to burn out than it is to rust?
ill go out with a bang man....even if its a horrible bang.
when in rome...eat the romans.
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
August 15 2011 22:08 GMT
#219
It matters. If I died (being hated) for a cause I absolutely put my heart to, then I couldn't give a rats ass.

Otherwise, hated only for the attention and remembrance? Then I'd rather be forgotten.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 16 2011 01:09 GMT
#220
On August 15 2011 01:59 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 00:25 The Final Boss wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:52 WeddingEpisode wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:50 sickle wrote:
On August 14 2011 17:44 WeddingEpisode wrote:
Definitely forgotten.


Hitler's not remembered very much. The things that Hitler did are remembered because people lost loved-ones because of what he chose to do. He as a person is never mentioned apart from his actions with much interest.

Minus the Holocaust and War, just imagine his biography.




The actions of a man is what defines him.


I think that's part of the outrage of it. He doesn't deserve the attention.

In addition to being one of the most wicked people to ever live, Hitler also was one of the most brilliant orators. Also, from a historical standpoint I personally find it interesting how a man could disguise such an evil and disgusting scheme behind loud speeches and blind nationalism.


It's all about opportunity. Germany was at a major low in morale after the first world war, and Hitler promised many great things for them. Given that Germany had previously been a very proud nation, they jumped at the chance to be considered equals or even superior to the rest of the world. Had Germany not been in the state it was in, Hitler never would have came into power.

While that may be true, his speeches are still extremely compelling. I'm not saying that Germany's state in the aftermath of the first world war wasn't part of the cause, but Hitler's speeches were able to inspire an entire nation of broken, battered people. That in itself is an incredible feat. Too bad he decided to be a real dickface.
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