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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 08:36:01
May 05 2017 08:34 GMT
#12041
What is an undertaking?

E: I mean in this context. Not the general context. I also presume you're not expected to set off and steal Smaug's gold.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11927 Posts
May 05 2017 08:39 GMT
#12042
On May 05 2017 17:34 Acrofales wrote:
What is an undertaking?

E: I mean in this context. Not the general context. I also presume you're not expected to set off and steal Smaug's gold.


Well, and undertaker is the guy who buries you if you are dead. If that helps.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 05 2017 13:46 GMT
#12043
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Matiz_pl
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland163 Posts
May 07 2017 18:16 GMT
#12044
how do i upload a gif from gyazo to teamliquid and if i cant from gyazo, what should i do it with?
"Competitive gaming consists of one and only one rule. You use what wins. " - FuumaMonou
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12120 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 19:25:10
May 07 2017 19:24 GMT
#12045
On May 08 2017 03:16 Matiz_pl wrote:
how do i upload a gif from gyazo to teamliquid and if i cant from gyazo, what should i do it with?


Download the gif from gyazo. Click "upload image" above the reply box that is below this post, upload your previously downloaded image and copy the link you get.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 10 2017 07:00 GMT
#12046
Let's say there's someone who's drowning and I want to save them, but they are struggling so much that I am afraid they'll drag me under. I have a taser. Would tasing them a few times cause them to struggle less and allow me to save them from drowning more easily? Or would they sink before I could reach them? How far away from them would I need to be to tase them without risking getting shocked?
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 10 2017 07:40 GMT
#12047
you forgot the most important thing here: is the water salty or not?.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
May 10 2017 13:12 GMT
#12048
Regardless of the idea of bringing a taser un the water, tasing someone who is already having troubles breathing is not the best move.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 10 2017 15:55 GMT
#12049
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
May 11 2017 05:40 GMT
#12050
Tasing him in water is cruel. I would suggest a choke hold until he passes out.

"What's the worst that could happen"
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11927 Posts
May 11 2017 08:12 GMT
#12051
Is tasing someone in the water actually more problematic then just tasing them?

My guess would be that it should be less problematic, as more of the electricity should go through the water instead of the body. Maybe there are some additional surface burns right where the taser attaches, as more current takes the route right across the skin.

Am i incorrect in this accessment?

And for the case of the drowning person? Just throw them a lifering, a rope, or basically anything else. I am pretty sure that jumping into the water and letting them drown you too is in general not recommended.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
May 11 2017 08:25 GMT
#12052
Is tasing someone in the water actually more problematic then just tasing them?


If they are drowning and struggling, then yes.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 11 2017 09:38 GMT
#12053
On May 11 2017 17:12 Simberto wrote:
Is tasing someone in the water actually more problematic then just tasing them?

My guess would be that it should be less problematic, as more of the electricity should go through the water instead of the body. Maybe there are some additional surface burns right where the taser attaches, as more current takes the route right across the skin.

Am i incorrect in this accessment?

And for the case of the drowning person? Just throw them a lifering, a rope, or basically anything else. I am pretty sure that jumping into the water and letting them drown you too is in general not recommended.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that it's a panicking person that can't swim caught in deep water not too far away from the beach, and you are swimming out equipped with only a (water proof) taser. The reason why you are carrying a (water proof) taser is left for the reader to imagine here.

Should you use the taser, or try to rescue without using the taser?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
May 11 2017 10:09 GMT
#12054
Based on this thread lifeguards around the world are switching from floaties to (waterproof) tasers as their favorite tool for rescuing people!
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
May 11 2017 10:14 GMT
#12055
dudes, if you use the taser on someone swimming, he will sink to the bottom like a rock(you lose muscle control).
the rest is a matter of what kind of taser and what kind of water.
- if the taser fires electrodes into the victim, there's nothing much that gets amped by the water itself since the charge passes from one electrode to the other(nor it will pass from one person to another).
(note here: due to skin porosity, while in the water, the (local)contact surface between the electrode and the body will increase Xfold so the burn on the impact point will be upped by a degree.)
- if the taser is a melee-kind of taser(a baton or w/e they're called) and you manage to somehow ground a pole through the salt water while in it, shit could get really bad really fast.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
May 11 2017 10:28 GMT
#12056
On May 11 2017 19:14 xM(Z wrote:
dudes, if you use the taser on someone swimming, he will sink to the bottom like a rock(you lose muscle control).
the rest is a matter of what kind of taser and what kind of water.
- if the taser fires electrodes into the victim, there's nothing much that gets amped by the water itself since the charge passes from one electrode to the other(nor it will pass from one person to another).
(note here: due to skin porosity, while in the water, the (local)contact surface between the electrode and the body will increase Xfold so the burn on the impact point will be upped by a degree.)
- if the taser is a melee-kind of taser(a baton or w/e they're called) and you manage to somehow ground a pole through the salt water while in it, shit could get really bad really fast.

In the sea, you definitely won't sink like a rock (although you'll drown because your head will go underwater). Hell, you even have a decent amount of buoyancy in fresh water. In fact, if people drowning in the sea would just relax and take a big breath and lie on their back, a lot less people would drown.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 11 2017 12:01 GMT
#12057
www.reddit.com
Also, I remember reading that electricity will go through the path of least resistance and will tend to just go through water instead of going through things in the water.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11927 Posts
May 11 2017 15:30 GMT
#12058
On May 11 2017 21:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
www.reddit.com
Also, I remember reading that electricity will go through the path of least resistance and will tend to just go through water instead of going through things in the water.


Mostly true. A majority of the current will go through the path of least resistance, while increasingly smaller amounts will go through all possible paths in relation to the resistance of that path. If you are interested in understanding how this works, take a look at what happens to the flow of electricity when you take different resistors and place them in parallel.

If it goes through water or the stuff in the water thus depends on the resistance of the things in the water, and on the resistance of the water itself, which is related to how much salt and other things there are in the water. Distilled water does not conduct electricity at all.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12120 Posts
May 11 2017 16:20 GMT
#12059
On May 11 2017 21:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
www.reddit.com
Also, I remember reading that electricity will go through the path of least resistance and will tend to just go through water instead of going through things in the water.


http://spotthedrowningchild.com/

That is actually harder than I thought it would be.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18375 Posts
May 11 2017 18:44 GMT
#12060
On May 12 2017 01:20 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2017 21:01 Dark_Chill wrote:
www.reddit.com
Also, I remember reading that electricity will go through the path of least resistance and will tend to just go through water instead of going through things in the water.


http://spotthedrowningchild.com/

That is actually harder than I thought it would be.

That's because there's no tasers there.
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