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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
November 01 2013 03:55 GMT
#34041
Thanks mang
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43530 Posts
November 01 2013 16:45 GMT
#34042
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
November 01 2013 17:49 GMT
#34043
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20278052

bringing santo back
?
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
November 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#34044
Get Hazed son.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20271714

He apparently, got that naga for free- so he actually made money from the insurance payout. According to him, he came out ahead. And didn't want that naga anyway.

So I came back a short period later:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20273088

He rage logged after this one, apparently this naga was in fact not free.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43530 Posts
November 01 2013 18:26 GMT
#34045
http://www.publicdemands.co.uk/showthread.php?24253-Behind-the-scenes-view-of-Seergs-sudden-departure-from-CCP
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
rhiload
Profile Joined August 2013
United Kingdom34 Posts
November 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#34046
osti fight club best
I never asked for this.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
November 01 2013 18:32 GMT
#34047
oops
?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
November 01 2013 18:41 GMT
#34048
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20278771
?
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
November 01 2013 18:56 GMT
#34049
On November 02 2013 03:26 KwarK wrote:
http://www.publicdemands.co.uk/showthread.php?24253-Behind-the-scenes-view-of-Seergs-sudden-departure-from-CCP


Read that like 1 month ago, tl,dr, CCP Sregs puts a code on the EvE client that checks for a botting program .dll. Civan, pro rus rus hacker/botter discover the routine, decides to troll CCP and sends them an email with the source code asking wtf was that doing on his client. Rus troll, best troll, CCP tears are collected
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
November 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#34050
On November 02 2013 03:56 0m3ga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:26 KwarK wrote:
http://www.publicdemands.co.uk/showthread.php?24253-Behind-the-scenes-view-of-Seergs-sudden-departure-from-CCP


Read that like 1 month ago, tl,dr, CCP Sregs puts a code on the EvE client that checks for a botting program .dll. Civan, pro rus rus hacker/botter discover the routine, decides to troll CCP and sends them an email with the source code asking wtf was that doing on his client. Rus troll, best troll, CCP tears are collected

From reading that I assumed the uproar was because the check was acting like a hack of its own.
Moderator
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
November 01 2013 19:22 GMT
#34051
OK, so I am coming back to EVE, and would like to get in on this. Currently have a toon with 3.5M skill points, training drones for Arbitrator > Pilgrim PvE / PvP. Will be happy to troll with y'all on my Merlin, and will look you up ingame later this weekend. In the meantime, pleased to meet all of you!
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 20:58:18
November 01 2013 19:42 GMT
#34052
On November 02 2013 03:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 03:56 0m3ga wrote:
On November 02 2013 03:26 KwarK wrote:
http://www.publicdemands.co.uk/showthread.php?24253-Behind-the-scenes-view-of-Seergs-sudden-departure-from-CCP


Read that like 1 month ago, tl,dr, CCP Sregs puts a code on the EvE client that checks for a botting program .dll. Civan, pro rus rus hacker/botter discover the routine, decides to troll CCP and sends them an email with the source code asking wtf was that doing on his client. Rus troll, best troll, CCP tears are collected

From reading that I assumed the uproar was because the check was acting like a hack of its own.


This is from quite literally 30 seconds of reading some documentation.

LoadLibrary loads and gives full access to the inner workings of the .dll which is... useless and inefficient at best and very dangerous at worst. On the flip side, GetModuleX functions try to peer into currently-loaded libraries and gives an accounting of the functions available and access to those functions.

LoadLibrary could potentially open an unopened library which is a severe abuse of user-given rights considering CCP is looking for a library they didn't write and possibly opening it in its entirety. GetModuleX, though, is designed to investigate libraries already loaded.

From the corrected code:


varnames_1 = ctypes.windll.kernel32.GetModuleHandleA('directeve.dll')
if varnames_1 > 0:
return 'xxxx'


This checks either if there is such a library loaded or if there are functions loaded on this particular library (I'd have to read deeper into documentation to see which). Obviously if the suspect library is loaded or if there are more than 0 functions from that library available, that is the condition you're looking for in order to possibly ban someone for using that particular automation library.

This is what happens when you employ huge egos with nothing behind them like Darius Johnson.

/edit -

+ Show Spoiler [A Simpler Perspective] +

Instead of emailing CCP about the mistake, this guy could have distributed a library to take advantage of the mistake. Ever get those alerts from various anti-virus-type programs like "YYY is trying to run blahblah.exe, Allow?" Are you more likely to allow some supposed bot you downloaded off the internet wilds or more likely to allow EVE to run something? People that knew about this vulnerability could have distributed something extremely malicious that CCP would run for them.

Unless you had a really sophisticated anti-virus-type program, you probably wouldn't even get a warning message. You have to give EVE certain powerful rights just so it can run normally on your computer.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 02 2013 01:46 GMT
#34053
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
November 02 2013 01:48 GMT
#34054
On November 02 2013 10:46 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.


PVP POWERHOUSE
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
November 02 2013 01:56 GMT
#34055
On November 02 2013 10:46 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.

Remember to use the term "Firesale" at least twice in the title, and make sure that it must be sold now. Doesn't have to be true, just sound good.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
November 02 2013 01:59 GMT
#34056
On November 02 2013 10:56 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 10:46 Warri wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.

Remember to use the term "Firesale" at least twice in the title, and make sure that it must be sold now. Doesn't have to be true, just sound good.


If your PVP POWERHOUSE on firesale doesn't sell, threaten to biomass it.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#34057
On November 02 2013 10:56 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 10:46 Warri wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.

Remember to use the term "Firesale" at least twice in the title, and make sure that it must be sold now. Doesn't have to be true, just sound good.

Wouldnt this make them think "this guy is going to sell at any cost so i can lowball here"?
jopirg
Profile Joined August 2010
United States81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 02:48:56
November 02 2013 02:48 GMT
#34058
On November 02 2013 11:34 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 10:56 Body_Shield wrote:
On November 02 2013 10:46 Warri wrote:
On November 02 2013 01:45 KwarK wrote:
Karah, I wanna borrow a load of isk again, need to replenish my plex stockpile while the price is good.

What are these "Isk" youre talking about? I have none of them!
Why is it so hard to sell characters these days? No one wanted to buy both my 65m subcap pvp god and my 42m subcap pvp demigod. Maybe im advertising them wrong.

Remember to use the term "Firesale" at least twice in the title, and make sure that it must be sold now. Doesn't have to be true, just sound good.

Wouldnt this make them think "this guy is going to sell at any cost so i can lowball here"?

The term you're looking for is "free bumps"
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-02 10:42:54
November 02 2013 10:38 GMT
#34059
On November 02 2013 04:42 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
LoadLibrary could potentially open an unopened library which is a severe abuse of user-given rights considering CCP is looking for a library they didn't write and possibly opening it in its entirety.


I don't think that "abuse of user-given rights" is the issue with calling LoadLibrary on a 3rd party library that might or might not be there, because applications do this all the time for legitimate reasons, and CCP's terms of service probably cover them in full for any anti-hack technology they wish to deploy.

As you pointed out between spoiler tags, the big problem with it is that it opens up a wide-open hole for attacks on the EVE client that do not require administrative access to install. Making such attacks easy enough could risk the style of mass malware-driven account theft that Blizzard has struggled with for years in WoW.

Edit: I noticed in the Reddit comments on this matter that Sreegs dusted off his Reddit account to assert that this exchange had nothing to do with his leaving the company. It's possible he was lying but more likely he wasn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 02 2013 12:00 GMT
#34060
anybody got some good pvp videos? Saw the stuff from worstplayersever channel allready and now I am looking for more
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