Update 3 months later on the Snuff situation.
I took all the pocos in the local area and went on tour when I had good wormholes. Ended up taking some pretty high value ones, barren planets 4j from Jita. Successfully hit Jan, which is the ur dunked (Snuff alts) home system, Aurohunen, Dantumi etc. Those were tough to hold though as they were using supers to take them back and without wormholes were a bit of a commute.

As I took more and more pocos they responded in typical Snuff fashion with neutral alts in covert cyno ships everywhere and got a few kills like this.
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001385/202403301800/

I adapted a little and started using t1 shitfit vexors to ref things with artynados on standby to kill the cyno recons while saccing the vexors.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/116418775/
Plus hitting their alts when they left them afk in highsec, just for laughs.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/116904147/

They struck back a few times. Once they rolled through Black Rise and Lonetrek with dreads and reffed every pocos that wasn't theirs in both regions which meant hitting another group called SL0W. Twice they used some merc (or out of alliance alt) multiboxing polarized talos to ref my stuff. They mostly blueballed the timers and I was able to chase the talos guy off with an afterburner harpy vs his 20 talos.

Then they tried their own talos, this time under a blops umbrella. That was pretty funny. I grabbed two harpies again, plus some artynados, and VoV was nearby and showed up with a lach. I dropped the harpies on the talos blob and killed two to kick things off. In classic Snuff fashion they decloaked their rapier to bring in the blops support. I promptly jumped in the artynados and killed the rapier.

Undeterred they decided that with their talos fleet still mostly alive and an overwhelming blops force on grid they could still finish off my pocos. They successfully killed one and started anchoring their own but I'd reached out to SL0W and they managed to scrape together a dozen bombers. I used an indy cyno venture to tackle a 2.5b panther and we took that down, despite them panic bringing in an apostle and despite it not actually being pointed by anyone. We then killed their anchoring poco and replaced it with a new one of our own, holding the field and taking the day.
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001437/202404250400/

I continued poking them and they just stopped trying to defend and started just repping them up with a mino under a blops umbrella, recognizing that there really wasn't much I could do to a mino and that they could just ignore me. I asked around to see if anyone was interested in an untanked mino in space and dropped 30 talos on it.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/117307383/
They actually responded extremely quickly and effectively. The moment the talos fleet entered local they rage formed and by the time the talos were on grid their response fleet was together. They brought in a shitload of blops headed by an abyssal/officer fit marshall with fax support. Unfortunately for them the marshall also got nuked of grid by the talos.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/117307400/

For a month after that they've been a lot quieter and I've mostly left them alone. I joined SL0W because I wanted some blues in the area that I could call on if I tackled something but don't really fly with them ever because they're nullsec and I'm lowsec. The DAWGS corp out of Villasen seem useful neighbours to be friends with though.

Then this last week they woke up and decided that they were going to get back at me by permacamping the SL0W nullsec system and shooting SL0W structures. It's an interesting choice because I don't really think of myself as being in SL0W in any meaningful sense. I don't go to their space, I don't use their structures, I don't go on their defence fleets etc. They've been watching with a certain amount of confusion because they're getting demands like this:

Do not drop listFrom: Asula KoskanaikenSent: 2024.06.01 09:04To: ARY'LI,
Good Day SL0W Capsuleer,We at Snuffed Out recognize that our cloaking camping impacts your gameplay. We do not personally hate you, we just dont like your leadership and Kwark. We want to extend an opportunity to continue ratting/mining. A blue pass of 500mil per main with an addition of 200mil per alt, will put you on a "Do not Drop list" with our campers for the month of June. This will allow you to continue ratting/mining.We have a process for this payment so that it is not captured in Auth so leadership will not know.Add wallymarts as a friend on Discord and we can come to a amicable resolution. Do not respond to this eve mail, as leadership will see it

but the SL0W ratting ishtars literally don't know who this KwarK fella is. They’ve never seen me or interacted with me, I’m out in lowsec.

They seem to think we're much friendlier than we are, despite SL0W killing a vargur of mine that was following an escalation
https://zkillboard.com/kill/117029539/
and me nuking one of their cyno ships
https://zkillboard.com/kill/117029534
Presumably if they successfully deny ratting in YI for long enough then I'll be forced to leave them alone because that's how this works.

Today Trottel is on reddit saying that I scammed them which is an interesting interpretation of him issuing a series of demands of me because I'm powerless and me arranging for the death of 2 minos, a marshall, a panther, a bunch of talos/recons, and 83 customs offices.
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/553310352/reset/group/1025/losses/
What can you do though.

Branch.AUT

Austria853 Posts

June 04 2024 17:23 GMT

#40402

Did you only join SlOW to distract snuff from the poco-wars?

It seems like they're going the "divert attention to a punching bag, and claim victory" route of conflict resolution. Or as I like to refer to it, the eve-way.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

June 13 2024 03:18 GMT

#40403

On June 05 2024 02:23 Branch.AUT wrote:
Did you only join SlOW to distract snuff from the poco-wars?

It seems like they're going the "divert attention to a punching bag, and claim victory" route of conflict resolution. Or as I like to refer to it, the eve-way.

I joined them because I wanted to be able to call on the lowsec pvpers of Villasen when I had a fight and needed someone to point a thing. It's always hilarious when Snuff and other elite pvpers try to actually undock but I can't always exploit them as hard as I'd like because I'm just one man and also not actually that good at manual piloting.

For example these kills
https://zkillboard.com/kill/118501290/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/118501212/
would have been a lot harder to get solo. I set it up, baited them onto the field, provided the align and warpin, and did the damage, but I didn't provide the tackle. Having a second player helps a lot there. SL0W in Villasen actually do smallgang pvp stuff as well as roaming and they've got a decent activity base so I figured I'd hijack them.

Snuff deciding to declare war on SL0W out of some belief that we're affiliated is funny but was not my goal. I just wanted to be able to jump onto their comms on discord and demand that people tackle things for me.

As far as I can tell though Snuff do not appear to be winning that war.
https://zkillboard.com/related/30045309/202406090100/
https://zkillboard.com/related/30045309/202406090300/

SL0W do appear to have joined a coalition which is a bit of an issue for me. We've got a lot of blues now. The previous situation was that I have a lot of people, many of whom were red, that I simply chose not to shoot. My gas program, for example, or Boulder (who I still have set -10). I don't think I need an in game alignment chart to tell me how I feel about people I run into in the Sarenen area, I know how I feel about them. They're either friendly, useful to me, background noise, or targets. If I didn't shoot someone in the past it's because I had a reason to.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

December 19 2024 15:32 GMT

#40404

Unfortunately most of the old Hatchery crew aren't playing at the moment. It's a real pity because the winter event triggered in Saranen and it's been pretty nuts. The isk/hr on the sites is crazy and the area is swarming with Frat but Saranen has all the hardware we need to farm them.

First day of running the sites I completed all the sites in Saranen which I'd secured and then thought "fuck it" and went Tart which ended poorly.
https://zkillboard.com/related/30001441/202412101800/o/{"A":["99013689"],"B":[]}/

Didn't really matter though because a few more days of running sites and the overseers effects alone were at 18b.
https://janice.e-351.com/a/OpLnNn
Total loot likely 30b+.

Teamed up with the DAWGS corp out of Villasen because I'm generally fairly good at finding content but need people to come in and actually do the work. They're US tz so every evening we're just undocking and farming farmers and scrapping with the other groups also farming the farmers.

On the 14th we got 1 zealot, 2 gnosis, 1 porp, 10 skiffs (5.6b), 1 kronos, 1 brutix navy, 1 sleip, and 2 caracal navy. DAWGS also got a random orca on the way home but I wasn't on that mail.

On the 15th another pvp group (Nourv Gate Security Commission) booshed an empty DST of mine off station and killed it with a vargur but then later we caught the vargur and killed it. Plus an ENI and some other things. Bit of an issue with Boulder who is with Nourv Gate but said he wouldn't fire at me and I wouldn't fire at him. We had their vargur dead and he warps in a kronos. I have a keres, sentinel, and 3 nados supporting the dawgs fleet so he's 100% dead if I go for him but I choose to respect the agreement. It'll be me + DAWGS vs the vargur, DAWGS alone vs the kronos. Boulder tried to save his vargur corpmate by killing my ships and if I'd known he was going to do that I'd have TD's him to shit with the sentinel. Problem is that I wanted to give him a chance to kill my fleetmates per the agreement and he used that to kill me. We still got the vargur though and he SRP'd all of mine that he killed and explained he was just following the targets broadcast by his corpmate and didn't notice until later so no harm done. But if I'd known he was gonna do that then I had the ewar to disarm him and kill the kronos too.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/123280560/

On the 16th we caught 2 drake navy issues.

On the 17th we got 1 bifrost, 5 gila, 1 kronos, 1 keres, 3 drake navy, 1 tempest fleet issue.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/123323673/

On the 18th we got 2 gnosis, 2 gila, 1 vargur, 1 drekavac.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/123346882/

EAFs are an absolute menace in the sites and I'm all about it. We can just log in, fleet up, scatter over the event area and then converge and kill. Baiting/dodging other PvP groups doing the same while we slaughter the event site runners.

A+ would log in again. This is EVE as it is meant to be.

If any of the old Hatchery crew want their account resubbed for the event let me know and I'll plex it.