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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 16 2015 13:41 GMT
#1
Similar to the BW and SC2 versions of this, got a simple question?

"Should I buy every round?"
"What is eco'ing/saving?"
"What does it mean to safe plant a bomb?"
"What team is s1mple on?" :D

Ask here for a simple answer!
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 16 2015 13:51 GMT
#2
A short guide to start playing some CS:GO when you are a newbie.

AMAZING Starter/Basics guide
http://forums.absurdminds.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=2198
(Alot of technical stuff at the beginning, much further down he details everything you need to know about CS. READ THIS.)

Novices guide
http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1s6pmc/for_all_the_new_players_csgo_beginners_guide/
(Great tips and tricks)

How to be good at CS:GO at all levels:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=121447468#
(Awesome little guide)

Map overviews, Nades & More.
http://operationl2p.com/
(Amazing resource for nade throws, has other things like map overviews and guides.)

Gun recoil patterns
http://twowordbird.com/articles/csgo-recoil-mechanics/
(You will want to look at this to understand exactly how gun recoil works in CS:GO, the bullets do not go where your cursor is placed.)

How to fire at range
http://i.imgur.com/SsZuUQa.jpg
(Just general guidelines. The "line" is A-long on Dust 2 from back-barrels on A site to Pit at the other end, if you wanted to compare in-game distances.)

adreN_TV
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCauWzM4ElgQCuwymc3sV42g/videos
(Full of amazing informational videos from smokes to rushes to movement.)
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 16 2015 13:55 GMT
#3
^ plagiarism!

Even my own notes on the links :D

I have a more fleshed out guide im going to be updating and posting when i get home tonight anyway. With the hope of getting everyone to pitch in and make it a massive beginners bible
Useless wet fish.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 16 2015 13:56 GMT
#4
On January 16 2015 22:55 Capped wrote:
^ plagiarism!

Even my own notes on the links :D

I have a more fleshed out guide im going to be updating and posting when i get home tonight anyway. With the hope of getting everyone to pitch in and make it a massive beginners bible

Haha yeah sorry, this is totally your post, I can edit it if you want !
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1119 Posts
January 16 2015 13:59 GMT
#5
On January 16 2015 22:55 Capped wrote:
^ plagiarism!

Even my own notes on the links :D

I have a more fleshed out guide im going to be updating and posting when i get home tonight anyway. With the hope of getting everyone to pitch in and make it a massive beginners bible


Will you cover aim/recoil maps too?
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Christelle
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France77 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 14:10:11
January 16 2015 14:03 GMT
#6
+ Show Spoiler +
I know that there are tons of videos online concerning smokes on de_mirage, but Id like to throw this out there; which ones are the most paramount in order to successfully conquer A as T on this map?

I ask because I feel that many times my friends and I will lose rounds when we attempt to claim A, due to a poor balance between maybe trying to execute too many smokes and wasting precious time in standing around aiming like fools, and actually advancing out from Slope/Palace with resolve.

When rushing out without any smokes, good teams will mow us down like a lawn; attempting too many smokes and we perish anyway. So which ones should mid-level groups such as my own focus on?

(in b4 l2p...)


Edit: Moved to separate topic.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 16 2015 14:03 GMT
#7
Quick question here: say you're T side and win the first round. Second round you can afford head armor and an AK. What do you do?

Traditionally, people advice to get nades and a Galil instead because losing the AK and giving it to CTs is risky. However, recently I've noticed quite a number of pros (adreN for one) actually go for head armor and AK second round anyways (even without nades). So what's the deal? What do you do and for what reason? Are there pros/cons that I'm overseeing?

Thanks!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 16 2015 14:07 GMT
#8
On January 16 2015 23:03 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Quick question here: say you're T side and win the first round. Second round you can afford head armor and an AK. What do you do?

Traditionally, people advice to get nades and a Galil instead because losing the AK and giving it to CTs is risky. However, recently I've noticed quite a number of pros (adreN for one) actually go for head armor and AK second round anyways (even without nades). So what's the deal? What do you do and for what reason? Are there pros/cons that I'm overseeing?

Thanks!



in Matchmaking/pugging. I only get a tech9 (seriously, just try using it the first 3 rounds, it's insane).

in an actual match, i'd rather have full nades first before getting an ak so if i can't afford an ak, at least I have galil + nades but empty AK buys does still work quite well if you are working together with a team such that at least the team has access to nades for executions. which of course is why I wouldnt do this in pugging cause the teamwork isn't there.
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
January 16 2015 14:11 GMT
#9
On January 16 2015 23:03 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Quick question here: say you're T side and win the first round. Second round you can afford head armor and an AK. What do you do?

Traditionally, people advice to get nades and a Galil instead because losing the AK and giving it to CTs is risky. However, recently I've noticed quite a number of pros (adreN for one) actually go for head armor and AK second round anyways (even without nades). So what's the deal? What do you do and for what reason? Are there pros/cons that I'm overseeing?

Thanks!


Head Armor and AK both are quite a lot of investment in the 2nd round and if you lose it then you are broke and have gifted the enemy team a rifle.The only time it's worthwhile is when you're either holding something like long on D2 or you're the entry fragger and your teammates are right behind you to pickup your weapon in case you die.

Adren has a proper team with a lot of teamwork and coordinated smokes etc that they can pull off something like a 2nd round head armor + AK buy which you're not likely to find in MM.Even then I call it too risky since a dropped AK can completely swing the tide when holding any site.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
January 16 2015 14:15 GMT
#10
I think that if you are working with a team it is fine for 2 or 3 of your team to get an AK and head amour since you will be sticking together. Even if you do die, one of your team mates will pick it up and keep the CT from taking it. If somehow your entire team dies, your team is totally outmatched and you will lose the game regardless of any strategy anyways.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 15:18:33
January 16 2015 14:19 GMT
#11
Guns are so good currently that ensuring you can headshot and kill someone on the first try or get them from very far is usually a need, while also a risk. If you're not good enough at your level you risk losing it, especially in mm since all angles are usually not covered and the backstab chance is real.

In pro games you see a looot of eco wins, maybe these ak buy are to test a solution.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 16 2015 14:42 GMT
#12
Cool, thanks everybody. I'll stick to the UMP for now (and give the TEC9 a try). Makes sense that a second round AK head armor buy makes more sense at high level or in a coordinated team.
Christelle
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France77 Posts
January 16 2015 14:47 GMT
#13
On January 16 2015 23:42 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Cool, thanks everybody. I'll stick to the UMP for now (and give the TEC9 a try). Makes sense that a second round AK head armor buy makes more sense at high level or in a coordinated team.



On this topic, isn't it usually a very desireable option to get weapons that excel against low-armor targets - such as the Bizon - when you know the other team most likely are 100% eco? After, say, a 1st round win.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 16 2015 15:06 GMT
#14
On January 16 2015 23:47 Christelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 23:42 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Cool, thanks everybody. I'll stick to the UMP for now (and give the TEC9 a try). Makes sense that a second round AK head armor buy makes more sense at high level or in a coordinated team.



On this topic, isn't it usually a very desireable option to get weapons that excel against low-armor targets - such as the Bizon - when you know the other team most likely are 100% eco? After, say, a 1st round win.


Every competent player will p250 armor after a lost pistol round since you can still afford full gear by 4th round. Blame VeryGames for making this work.

Long answer: bizon is terrible against armor and if the losing team is going to buy armor 2nd round, then you basically are at a disadvantage. This is also why pros will do the 2nd round AK + helmet buy as it gives them a way to deal with this 2nd round armor strat (it's an evolved meta game over the course of CSGO's lifetime).

So, 2nd round buy at least sometime that is good against armor or if you lost the round, buy armor and a pistol and capitalize on the enemy team's mistakes for buying bizons
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
January 16 2015 15:10 GMT
#15
If you are unsure of what's fitting for the situation, always go for galil+armor+nades

even versus ecos, grenades are extremely important as soon as you've climbed the ranks a bit

don't sacrifice your grenades for a slightly better gun!
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 16:07:11
January 16 2015 16:06 GMT
#16
On January 16 2015 23:03 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Quick question here: say you're T side and win the first round. Second round you can afford head armor and an AK. What do you do?

Traditionally, people advice to get nades and a Galil instead because losing the AK and giving it to CTs is risky. However, recently I've noticed quite a number of pros (adreN for one) actually go for head armor and AK second round anyways (even without nades). So what's the deal? What do you do and for what reason? Are there pros/cons that I'm overseeing?

Thanks!

Head armour is an absolute must if you win pistol round on any side. The point of it is so you won't get 1 shot by the other team's starting pistols because they have to save (all dem usp/p2k 1 taps). If you're afraid of losing your gun, then you can stick with an SMG and it won't be as bad to lose it compared to a rifle.

Choice of SMG/Rifle is up to your preference, but head armour is must. If the other team didn't force buy pistol armour for second round, SMGs just tear through unarmoured opponents and have the nice kill reward (except p90) to boost your economy even further.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 16 2015 16:11 GMT
#17
Oh yeah, of course. I was only wondering why so many good players were, nowadays, going back to getting AKs as opposed to SMGs. Head armor second round after win is a given, I should've made that clearer!

I even buy body armor first round every single time. At Gold Nova level, players aren't THAT good at insta-headshots with pistols so it pays off more often that not I feel.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#18
Having armor regardless of rank is a good safety net for you so at the very least if you get into a unfavorable gunfight you can still sling it out without worrying too much about aim punch
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
January 16 2015 16:16 GMT
#19
Eco round I don't buy armor, good or bad?
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Gof
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden120 Posts
January 16 2015 16:18 GMT
#20
On January 17 2015 01:16 Jer99 wrote:
Eco round I don't buy armor, good or bad?

You shouldn't buy armor when you're on an eco, then it's not really an eco anymore, just some weird forcebuy.
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