EPTGoing pistols only when you win pistols is a bit risky but it's doable in matchmaking where strats don't matter and everyone walls
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Going pistols only when you win pistols is a bit risky but it's doable in matchmaking where strats don't matter and everyone walls | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On January 17 2015 04:43 Christelle wrote: So I keep being told, and yet I keep seeing all these videos of pros performing wonders with the thing. Granted ofcourse that they're PROS, but what are the arguments behind everyone raving about what a useless gun the Deagle is? Im not trying to be clever here, Im just trying to understand. Seems like an okay gun to me; only downside I see is the outrageous price. Its not THAT useless, but its definitly not great, especially for the price. Yes you can get great kills with it, but do you get them consistently enough to justify it? Not really, especially when other pistols are so great. I wouldnt ever take it with an awp tho, as there are way better options for close range combat (when you don't want to use your awp). The p250 is the first option, its cheap, has decent armor penetration and one shot headshot from very close range. Then if you are willing to pay 500$, both the 5-7 and the tec9 are great pistols. Both can get one shot headshots from up close and both have a lot of bullets in the clip (20 and 32). The tec9 also has a crasy first bullet accuracy (even when running) to compensate for its terrible accuracy when you spray. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On January 17 2015 04:51 amazingxkcd wrote: just a naked p250? I would rather get a kit alongside that or nades. You're not going to be able to buy rifles until the 4th round, so there's no rifle buying round 3. r2 you should be getting helmet + kevlar since you'll be able to afford it alongside getting a pistol as well and if you lose the first 2 rounds, just do a hard save round 3 so that you can full buy round 4. Going pistols only when you win pistols is a bit risky but it's doable in matchmaking where strats don't matter and everyone walls To add to that, buying a p250 first round serves no real purpose, as both the glock and the p2000/usp have one shot headshot capabilites in the first round (no helmets). If you want a fancy pistol for the first round, you are better off with a 5-7 or tec9 for the increase in clip size, along with either kit or nades. I personally always buy kevlar in MM. You might consider a kit and nades also, but I'm saving that for team play where you can actually use those efficiently. | ||
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aBcaret
United States7 Posts
On January 17 2015 01:16 Jer99 wrote: Eco round I don't buy armor, good or bad? if you have enough money (ct side: around 3k, t side 2.5k) and on the round after you lose pistol UNLESS you got the bomb plant on t side. this is because you will still be able to buy 4th round, but this will also put you in a position to win an eco round after losing pistol. many people will also buy things such as pp bizons and umps which have terrible armor shred and put you at the advantage with your five seven / tec9 + armor | ||
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flykobo
United States16 Posts
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=303916990 This has helped me stay at the top of my shape when I play. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On January 17 2015 04:48 Phyanketto wrote: Is this optimal? r1 p250 -> r2 (if win) tec9/5-7 (if loss) nothing -> r3 rifle Round one as someone else said, you can one tap headshot with just a basic glock or p2000/usp. p250 is ideally used vs armor, which is only useful if you're going for bodyshots, but that is not optimal. Round two is one of the most complicated and mind-gamey rounds of the entire game. You can get away with tec9/5-7 if you won the pistol round, but if your opponents full buy you're putting yourself on even footing vs players who also have armor pistol and are potentially giving them the opportunity to come back. Since its impossible to know whether or not the other team force buys (most of the time at a high level they do), you will generally want to buy full armor, a couple grenades and the best gun you can afford, and consolidate your lead by forcing the other team into another eco. A lot of people debate on the gun you should buy second round on an anti-eco as you risk giving it to the enemy should you die, but lately I see most professional teams simply buy the best gun they can afford and play very conservatively, guarding any dropped guns. On the reverse side if you lost pistol round, round two is your best chance to turn the economies around and stage a come back by buying body armor, a p250 at minimum, and any grenades you can afford. On terrorist side this is a gamble unless you can manage a bomb plant. You should only force buy second round if your team all agrees to forcebuy together, otherwise full save as you said. Round three you only full buy rifle armor grenades as terrorist if you manage to plant the bomb at least once and saved round two. As counter terrorist you can't afford to buy until round four, though you can still forcebuy second round and afford to full buy fourth round. You can buy body armor/famas + grenades on round three if you save on round two, but most teams opt for the safer fourth round buy so that they can afford M4's. | ||
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ForcesEqualZero
United States17 Posts
On January 17 2015 04:43 Christelle wrote: So I keep being told, and yet I keep seeing all these videos of pros performing wonders with the thing. Granted ofcourse that they're PROS, but what are the arguments behind everyone raving about what a useless gun the Deagle is? Im not trying to be clever here, Im just trying to understand. Seems like an okay gun to me; only downside I see is the outrageous price. Edit: Nagisama provided some clarity. Thx. Well, the recoil and fire rate are terrible compared to other pistols. Basically, if you don't kill with the first bullet, you're kinda in trouble if your opponent is halfway decent. The other pistols are pretty forgiving when it comes to missing due to good fire rate and low recoil. | ||
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XDEKSDEEXD
622 Posts
Let's settle this confusion once and for all. m4a1-s. Does the silencer really hide you from the radar? My answer, after doing a lot of research, is indirectly, yes. I say that because radar in CS GO does not really use sounds to spot enemies. It uses vision instead. You can use the loudest guns like AK47 but if you kill the enemy from behind, I am pretty sure you will not show up on the radar, as long as the victim does not have a chance to look at you. Having said this, does M4A1-s really help you remain hidden on the radar? my answer is indirectly, because if you shoot with m4a1-s, it does indeed help with the quieter shots, making your enemy confused where you really are. This, indirectly helps you so that the enemy will have a much harder time trying to find out where you are. However, if the enemy sees you, even if you are using m4a1-s, you will still show up on the radar. So basically m4a1-s helps you remain hidden on the radar by making it more difficult for the enemy to find where you are. However, if the enemy sees you, even if you are using m4a1s, you will show up anyway. Is the above correct? | ||
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iXphobos
Germany1464 Posts
On January 17 2015 15:10 TwoOOneThree wrote: HI all Let's settle this confusion once and for all. m4a1-s. Does the silencer really hide you from the radar? My answer, after doing a lot of research, is indirectly, yes. I say that because radar in CS GO does not really use sounds to spot enemies. It uses vision instead. You can use the loudest guns like AK47 but if you kill the enemy from behind, I am pretty sure you will not show up on the radar, as long as the victim does not have a chance to look at you. Having said this, does M4A1-s really help you remain hidden on the radar? my answer is indirectly, because if you shoot with m4a1-s, it does indeed help with the quieter shots, making your enemy confused where you really are. This, indirectly helps you so that the enemy will have a much harder time trying to find out where you are. However, if the enemy sees you, even if you are using m4a1-s, you will still show up on the radar. So basically m4a1-s helps you remain hidden on the radar by making it more difficult for the enemy to find where you are. However, if the enemy sees you, even if you are using m4a1s, you will show up anyway. Is the above correct? That is correct, sir. | ||
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DerSchober
Austria66 Posts
im saying that to state that i have like zero experience with the game, if some1 considers my questions stupid 1) the ranking system after my 10 wins i got silver 1, which is absolutely fine cause i didnt play shooters in a long time and especially in my first games, i was HORRIBLE im at 22 or 23 wins now and im wondering how long it takes to rank up. yes, im not a pro but i know the basics from watching a lot of streams (where to peek, where to watch out for enemy awp, where to smoke and flash, when to buy, when to eco) the last 10 or 15 games i got very confident, im usually at the top 2 of my team, even when we lose, and some games i feel like i won for my team (going 33-5-18 or smthg like that, defusing a lot of bombs, being the ONLY one to buy a non-scope weapon ... etc) so im really wondering how long this takes cause i read stuff like "lvl up in 5 wins" 2) csgolounge id like to bet on matches so how does this work ? can i start betting without putting any money into it ? cause i never bought any skins in dota, and i dont plan on doing so in cs ... thanks guys ! | ||
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mki
Poland882 Posts
On January 17 2015 21:30 DerSchober wrote: i havent played cs in over 10 years but some weeks ago (after watching some streams and following some tourneys) i got cs:go and i like it quite a lot im saying that to state that i have like zero experience with the game, if some1 considers my questions stupid 1) the ranking system after my 10 wins i got silver 1, which is absolutely fine cause i didnt play shooters in a long time and especially in my first games, i was HORRIBLE im at 22 or 23 wins now and im wondering how long it takes to rank up. yes, im not a pro but i know the basics from watching a lot of streams (where to peek, where to watch out for enemy awp, where to smoke and flash, when to buy, when to eco) the last 10 or 15 games i got very confident, im usually at the top 2 of my team, even when we lose, and some games i feel like i won for my team (going 33-5-18 or smthg like that, defusing a lot of bombs, being the ONLY one to buy a non-scope weapon ... etc) so im really wondering how long this takes cause i read stuff like "lvl up in 5 wins" 2) csgolounge id like to bet on matches so how does this work ? can i start betting without putting any money into it ? cause i never bought any skins in dota, and i dont plan on doing so in cs ... thanks guys ! Hey man  1) It shouldn't take you long to rank up from silver I. However the ranking system doesn't really weight how much you frag or die, it cares more about how much you win and lose. So theoretically - if you lose every match top fragging, you won't rank up. Inversely, if you win every match bottom fragging you're more likely to rank up. Hope that clarifies a little bit. 2) CSGOLounge lets you bet skins on matches. You can get these from drops playing any game mode really in CS. They're limited to a specific number per week, however they are free. After you get these skins you can bet them on CSGL so yes, betting can be free. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On January 17 2015 21:30 DerSchober wrote: i havent played cs in over 10 years but some weeks ago (after watching some streams and following some tourneys) i got cs:go and i like it quite a lot im saying that to state that i have like zero experience with the game, if some1 considers my questions stupid 1) the ranking system after my 10 wins i got silver 1, which is absolutely fine cause i didnt play shooters in a long time and especially in my first games, i was HORRIBLE im at 22 or 23 wins now and im wondering how long it takes to rank up. yes, im not a pro but i know the basics from watching a lot of streams (where to peek, where to watch out for enemy awp, where to smoke and flash, when to buy, when to eco) the last 10 or 15 games i got very confident, im usually at the top 2 of my team, even when we lose, and some games i feel like i won for my team (going 33-5-18 or smthg like that, defusing a lot of bombs, being the ONLY one to buy a non-scope weapon ... etc) so im really wondering how long this takes cause i read stuff like "lvl up in 5 wins" 2) csgolounge id like to bet on matches so how does this work ? can i start betting without putting any money into it ? cause i never bought any skins in dota, and i dont plan on doing so in cs ... thanks guys ! 1. Just keep at it for playing the game, if you are at a higher skill level than the other players in your rank group you will rank up naturally so have patience and keep improving your game .2 For csgolounge, you bet with your own skins. So CSGL uses market prices to determine skin values and what you do is trade your skins to a trade bot that they operate and if you win a bet, they'll trade you your skins + winnings skins back or you can keep it in reserve and keep betting. You can bet with the super cheap skins that drop in game but it will take a long time for you to scrounge a sizeable betting pool which is why some people say taht you should invest maybe $5 to $10 in betting skins (skins that are plentiful and have stable market prices) so taht you can help kickstart your betting investments | ||
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DerSchober
Austria66 Posts
i lose more games than i win ... i know that everyone thinks that HE ALWAYS gets the worst team, but in 3-4 out of 5 games im really angry and pissed. ppl in my team buying 3-4 scope weapons, running in the most obvious deaths, not seeing some1 they SHOULD see and kill, buying stupid stuff, always trying to plant the bomb the same way, etc etc its just very frustrating sometimes so i can bet with the weapon skins i get from playing ? thats nice, already got 3 or 4 of those i think (e.g. scar-20 contractor ?) | ||
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mki
Poland882 Posts
On January 17 2015 21:55 DerSchober wrote: thanks guys, explains a lot i lose more games than i win ... i know that everyone thinks that HE ALWAYS gets the worst team, but in 3-4 out of 5 games im really angry and pissed. ppl in my team buying 3-4 scope weapons, running in the most obvious deaths, not seeing some1 they SHOULD see and kill, buying stupid stuff, always trying to plant the bomb the same way, etc etc its just very frustrating sometimes so i can bet with the weapon skins i get from playing ? thats nice, already got 3 or 4 of those i think (e.g. scar-20 contractor ?) Yes, you can bet those skins. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On January 17 2015 21:55 DerSchober wrote: thanks guys, explains a lot i lose more games than i win ... i know that everyone thinks that HE ALWAYS gets the worst team, but in 3-4 out of 5 games im really angry and pissed. ppl in my team buying 3-4 scope weapons, running in the most obvious deaths, not seeing some1 they SHOULD see and kill, buying stupid stuff, always trying to plant the bomb the same way, etc etc its just very frustrating sometimes so i can bet with the weapon skins i get from playing ? thats nice, already got 3 or 4 of those i think (e.g. scar-20 contractor ?) I you feel like you are not progressing fast enough because the games you are matched into are too random / do not provide good training, I encourage you to play a lot of Deathmatch to improve your aim. Find a community server that you like (ping, number of players, rules : ffa, team dm, hs only or not) and work on your aim with the main weapons : ak, m4, awp, pistols. Then you will be able to get out of silver on aim only by dropping 30-40 kills every game and carrying your team. | ||
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mki
Poland882 Posts
On January 17 2015 22:42 Roggay wrote: I you feel like you are not progressing fast enough because the games you are matched into are too random / do not provide good training, I encourage you to play a lot of Deathmatch to improve your aim. Find a community server that you like (ping, number of players, rules : ffa, team dm, hs only or not) and work on your aim with the main weapons : ak, m4, awp, pistols. Then you will be able to get out of silver on aim only by dropping 30-40 kills every game and carrying your team. This. At the risk of sounding elitist however it's true: You should be able to get out of silver on aim alone. Albeit a few exceptions, positioning, communication, etc. isn't that important in Silver I (of course it's better to have it, however it isn't a game changer). However getting out of Silver really is about aim. Deathmatching is a great way to work on your aim. Also you might want to warm-up before jumping into a competitive just by DMing a little bit. | ||
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XDEKSDEEXD
622 Posts
I appreciate the reply, but would love to see more input/feedback on my theory of m4a1-s | ||
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NihiLStarcraft
Denmark1413 Posts
On January 18 2015 09:11 TwoOOneThree wrote: Thanks iXphobos for your reply sir. I appreciate the reply, but would love to see more input/feedback on my theory of m4a1-s Well, you're just sort of right. You show up on the minimap as soon as there is a line of sight between an enemy and you, regardless of your weapon or anything else (as long as you're on their screen basically). But the M4A1-S doesn't fire tracers and the sound is quieter so, especially when you catch enemies off guard, you often find them spinning around not knowing exactly where you are. In those cases, as long as they don't see you, you're not on the minimap either. It's only going to be a very small amount of time and should never really matter in a game, but in theory, indirectly, the silencer can help to stay off the radar a bit longer I guess. | ||
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