Ming, 1622. I finished westernizing off of Genoa in 1503. Timurids are my vassal and should be done integrating around 1640.

I'm about 4-5 admin/diplo techs behind most europeans but way ahead in military. Just got hit with an 11 year regency so I should be able to catch up a bit.

Yurie

11752 Posts

October 16 2015 07:45 GMT

#2984

New DLC announced:

http://steamcommunity.com/games/236850/announcements/detail/760339175574005633

Doesn't seem that interesting to me. Maybe somebody else can tell why it is good.

nimbim

Germany983 Posts

October 16 2015 08:40 GMT

#2985

Horde improvements. Just like Res Publica is only interesting while you're playing a republic. The peacetime management doesn't sound interesting to me, but apparently a lot of people wanted something like that.

419

Russian Federation3631 Posts

October 18 2015 05:17 GMT

#2986

surprisingly tricky BYZ game - PLC-Ottoman rivalry did not fall into place so I had to improvise. Had to use Qara as my beatstick against the Ottomans (QQ sucks seriously they did nothing but bleed the Ottoman treasury with 5% attrition in their wastelands...which counted for a lot actually)

Turns out Venice is a surprisingly good gank target.

Lost a war against Mamluks early but overall everything else is nice. Random Anatolian minor, Serbia, and Aq Qoyunlu are vassals

SCguineapig

Netherlands289 Posts

October 18 2015 13:16 GMT

#2987

[QUOTE]On September 24 2015 22:58 Nakama wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 24 2015 21:34 Silvanel wrote:
Heh. I could have told You this. My last run at "Over a 1000" as Ottmans ended this way. I truce breaked to eat Ming, and it turned out to be too much I had like 800-1000k standing army. No match for like 10mln+ separatists.

BTW as whom were You playing, sounds like very good run.[/QUOTE]

To my own shame i was playing as Austria, but hey thats where my father comes from so its legit isnt it ? =)
I revoked at 1550.

How did you do that so quick? I'm currently playing as austria and only managed to get the first 2 reforms by 1515. And now I'm fucked for 100 years because half the northern HRE became protestant so my influence goes to - every month.

Nakama

Germany584 Posts

October 18 2015 13:40 GMT

#2988

@SCguineapig

I could have done it by 1544 if i wanted.
I tried to chain the Mission where u need to Improve Realations with an Elector as much as possbile.
U have to be a little tricky but it worked fine for me.

I abandon mission i dont want to do or cant do quick.
I try to hold the Relations with most of the Electors between 0-50-
Mostly it was Saxony and Brandenburg and Trier which alternated the mission.

If i got too much Relations with one of them due to recently fullfilling the Mission i broke marriage or formed an alliance and broke it again or whatever i had at my hands to bring it down to 49 again.

This and i tired to keep the HRE as peacefull as possible witth atleast 40 members inculding the FreeCitys.

It was´t hard at all. That said, i had so much Power so early this run thx to everything working my way, so i dont know if the above is as easy for u as it was for me.

EDIT: Oh and dont forget that u get some IA (10 i think) if ur ruler dies before a certain Reform so try to plan accordingly

xdevilx2

Germany38 Posts

October 18 2015 14:35 GMT

#2989

Trying out the MEIOU & Taxes mod, a bit overwhelming but seems fun sofar.

419

Russian Federation3631 Posts

October 22 2015 19:11 GMT

#2990

here's my WC-in-progress. Perm, TO, Oirat, Punjab, and Brandenburg are my vassals. Hoping to get Scotland and Savoy soon as vassals. Plan is to core Iberia/France manually once I polish off Asia.

I ran the math and I think I'm going to run out of time for one-tag but maybe I'll get lucky (or go for 100% OE play, BYZ is okay for this)

funnily enough I still haven't gotten basileus in this run yet

CuddlyCuteKitten

Sweden2579 Posts

October 22 2015 19:40 GMT

#2991

I have a question for you progamers in the thread. I'm currently emperor in 1519 and my next reform is Ewegier Landgefride or whatever it's name is. I have never played as HRE emperor before but with the reformation coming up would passing the reform be incredibly stupid? (I have like 4 IA right now but it seems pretty easy to increase so I could probably have it by 1530 or so?)
Currently me and the boys curbstomp anyone who annexes anything inside the HRE and that was my intention for anyone choosing to switch religions as well. But if I understand it right I can't declare war if I pass the reform and then the reformation would run rampart because I can't shut down the centers of reformation? I have religious ideas pretty soon so I don't think I will have any trouble with it myself but it could mess up the HRE for me?

nimbim

Germany983 Posts

October 22 2015 21:03 GMT

#2992

I'm trying to do my first WC. I wanted to do a one-tag, but I'm probably short on time. My current ruler is a 1-1-2 and I still need to catch up in dip tech to get imperialism and client states. I've spent the last ~8years firing advisors every month but still haven't gotten a +3 inflation reduction guy to get the 100adm+dip event.
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RvB

Netherlands6196 Posts

October 22 2015 21:09 GMT

#2993

On October 23 2015 04:11 419 wrote:
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Do you have Common Sense on? You're pretty fucked I think if you do since Europe develops like crazy. That's what killed my Ottomans one tag anyway.

edit: fucked for 1 tag I mean.

419

Russian Federation3631 Posts

October 22 2015 21:10 GMT

#2994

yes, for one-tag is probably mathematically impossible. However, I've seen much worse positions at 1720 get the simple WC. Remember with BYZ super-stability I can trucebreak and just spam client states over Europe.

I wanted to attempt a one-tag but not with Ottomans as that's been super overdone. I made a number of mistakes (focusing on Asia way too much and not securing strong vassals in Europe beforehand) as well as exhibited poor early-midgame play. It'll make an interesting review when I'm done.

It's also a bit more interesting strategically than Ottomans in my opinion - for BYZ, Asia focus is necessary to snowball (as only overseas core cost abuse then integrating your buffers can give you monarch point efficient land) but not too much as otherwise all the shits in HRE get developed too much. Whereas with Ottomans you are not constrained to having to snowball in a certain direction.

I still need to catch up in dip tech to get imperialism and client states.

I honestly think religious CB is better than imperialism for WC purposes. With diplomatic it is very difficult to take 100% warscore of provinces within overextension limit, and its far easier to get to 80% warscore using superiority wars vs. wargoal especially since capitals are not easy to headshot with fort mechanics

That said, both are useful but I would be content delaying imperialism.

419

Russian Federation3631 Posts

October 23 2015 06:43 GMT

#2995

ayyyyy that just cut down the amount of wars needed to deal with Europe significantly

france managed to burn my manpower from 240k->20k with 7k manpower per month. scary shit as always

edit: apparently PU juniors still get massive AE when you conquer stuff. well fuck that, enforcing PUs is practically worthless then for WC purposes.

edit2: i think I can force them to Orthodox which should help out on the AE front

SCguineapig

Netherlands289 Posts

November 03 2015 19:26 GMT

#2996

So I realised something funny, when playing ironman mode as the ottomans, my godlike 6-3-6 heir (after a bunch of weak sultans) got an event where he would die. So in my infinite wisdom I closed the game (using task manager) apparently this gets past the "autosave" whenever you exit eu4 ironman through the main menu or alt f4. So if you ever find yourself in a position like me, you can always just quit the game and restart to avoid such annoying events. This is unfortuante though because it breaks a part of what makes ironman mode difficult.

CuddlyCuteKitten

Sweden2579 Posts

November 03 2015 19:55 GMT

#2997

Check again because I tried that and thougth it worked. But what actually happened was that it simply deactivated ironman...

Yurie

11752 Posts

November 03 2015 23:11 GMT

#2998

It has worked fine for me when I did it in the past. Though that was because of the game crashing or being tabbed and wanting to quit the game and not intentional dodging.

nimbim

Germany983 Posts

November 04 2015 03:04 GMT

#2999

You can also bypass ironman by copying the save file.

Archeon

3252 Posts

November 04 2015 03:26 GMT

#3000

On October 23 2015 04:40 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
I have a question for you progamers in the thread. I'm currently emperor in 1519 and my next reform is Ewegier Landgefride or whatever it's name is. I have never played as HRE emperor before but with the reformation coming up would passing the reform be incredibly stupid? (I have like 4 IA right now but it seems pretty easy to increase so I could probably have it by 1530 or so?)
Currently me and the boys curbstomp anyone who annexes anything inside the HRE and that was my intention for anyone choosing to switch religions as well. But if I understand it right I can't declare war if I pass the reform and then the reformation would run rampart because I can't shut down the centers of reformation? I have religious ideas pretty soon so I don't think I will have any trouble with it myself but it could mess up the HRE for me?

Nakama might be able to give you a more precise answer, but according to my experience ewiger landfriede is pretty good thanks to the massive bonus peace in the HRE gives you to IA. It really depends on the center of reformation-spawns and spreads though, since it means you cant force convert people anymore, so yeah when 10 or more states become protestant or reformed you essentially loose the bonus again (which will happen over time).

So yeah it all depends on how fast you can revoke the privilegia. Because after that you usually dont care that much anymore about religion.