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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 04:42:32
April 18 2012 04:25 GMT
#6301
The Spurs having big leads makes me nervous, but they fought back against the run.

It also looks like the Lakers are giving up a little bit. [Retracted- but they did suck for that one stretch. I guess Brown is a better motivator than we thought.]
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 18 2012 04:26 GMT
#6302
Are we sure Kentucky couldn't hang in the NBA?

Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 18 2012 05:06 GMT
#6303
need some hot milfs on the sidelines to distract parker. machine
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
April 18 2012 05:07 GMT
#6304
It's actually a really nice win for the Spurs. If they lose less than 2 games they're guaranteed to keep the 1st seed. The other 2 losable games are tomorrow against the Kings (back to back to back, probably without the big 3) and the Lakers, the rest of the schedule is easy. If they win tomorrow they'll probably be 1st, which should match them against much weaker opponents.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 07:12:59
April 18 2012 07:12 GMT
#6305
On April 18 2012 12:26 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 11:33 RowdierBob wrote:
On April 18 2012 11:02 Doraemon wrote:
what would you with the rockets roster? trade lowry with kmart/scola and resign dragic? or let dragic walk and and try package scola or kmart and our first round pick for someone decent? hmmm


I'd keep Lowry. I know Dragic has been going really well lately but I think he's going to get massively overpaid based on recent form. I think the Rockets are in a good spot as they can really keep either or and have a solid starting option at PG.

The Rockets have a really good team, but just need a star player to make them real contenders. Morey has been surprisingly patient since he almost completed to abomnation trade with the Lakers/Hornets that would have sent Pau to the Rockets.

I'm looking at their cap space and it looks really strong. It appears they'll have roughly $20 mill to spend in the Summer depending on possible amnesties and Motiejunas coming on board. If they fiddle the money around right they should have at least enough for a max offer. Looking at who's available:

Deron
Eric Gordon (restricted)
Ray Allen
Gerald Wallace
Nic Batum (restricted)
Hibbert (restricted)

All worth taking a stab at for the Rockets IMO. But outside Deron, no real franchise changing players (and their chances of signing Deron as slim to nil). So they'd have to look at trades in which case it might be worth resigning Dragic to use as a piece in a trade with Scola/Martin. Trades are always murky and I'm not really sure who's even available/realistic for the Rockets. It might be in their interest to just acquire as many positve assets as possible and see what's offered to them.


i'm leaning towards keeping lowry mainly for his attractive contract, i think dragic will be looking at a 3 year $30M contract easy. i'd love to have batum as we don't really have that wing guy anymore, maybe a sign and trade with dragic for gwall if deron runs? we've been competing for the 7-8th spot for a couple of years now and ain't getting us anywhere. we need a legit all star ><


People will more than likely howl me down for this, but I still think Amare would be a good fit in Houston. It depends on what Houston had to give up of course. Martin/Scola for Amare works (dunno if either side does it though) and I think it's, in principle, a good trade. Houston still then has cap space to get some decent FAs and the Dragic/Lowry trade chip to get more role players/depth.

Amare would work quite well with a PG like Lowry and Houston would have cap space and assets to build a good squad with those two guys. Biggest x-factor though if Amare's health, motivation and form. It's a deal with a lot of risk, but could be part of an upside plan for Houston.

Flame away! :D
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 18 2012 10:04 GMT
#6306
On April 18 2012 16:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 12:26 Doraemon wrote:
On April 18 2012 11:33 RowdierBob wrote:
On April 18 2012 11:02 Doraemon wrote:
what would you with the rockets roster? trade lowry with kmart/scola and resign dragic? or let dragic walk and and try package scola or kmart and our first round pick for someone decent? hmmm


I'd keep Lowry. I know Dragic has been going really well lately but I think he's going to get massively overpaid based on recent form. I think the Rockets are in a good spot as they can really keep either or and have a solid starting option at PG.

The Rockets have a really good team, but just need a star player to make them real contenders. Morey has been surprisingly patient since he almost completed to abomnation trade with the Lakers/Hornets that would have sent Pau to the Rockets.

I'm looking at their cap space and it looks really strong. It appears they'll have roughly $20 mill to spend in the Summer depending on possible amnesties and Motiejunas coming on board. If they fiddle the money around right they should have at least enough for a max offer. Looking at who's available:

Deron
Eric Gordon (restricted)
Ray Allen
Gerald Wallace
Nic Batum (restricted)
Hibbert (restricted)

All worth taking a stab at for the Rockets IMO. But outside Deron, no real franchise changing players (and their chances of signing Deron as slim to nil). So they'd have to look at trades in which case it might be worth resigning Dragic to use as a piece in a trade with Scola/Martin. Trades are always murky and I'm not really sure who's even available/realistic for the Rockets. It might be in their interest to just acquire as many positve assets as possible and see what's offered to them.


i'm leaning towards keeping lowry mainly for his attractive contract, i think dragic will be looking at a 3 year $30M contract easy. i'd love to have batum as we don't really have that wing guy anymore, maybe a sign and trade with dragic for gwall if deron runs? we've been competing for the 7-8th spot for a couple of years now and ain't getting us anywhere. we need a legit all star ><


People will more than likely howl me down for this, but I still think Amare would be a good fit in Houston. It depends on what Houston had to give up of course. Martin/Scola for Amare works (dunno if either side does it though) and I think it's, in principle, a good trade. Houston still then has cap space to get some decent FAs and the Dragic/Lowry trade chip to get more role players/depth.

Amare would work quite well with a PG like Lowry and Houston would have cap space and assets to build a good squad with those two guys. Biggest x-factor though if Amare's health, motivation and form. It's a deal with a lot of risk, but could be part of an upside plan for Houston.

Flame away! :D


personally i would prefer LMA over amare...i just think lamarcus brings more to the table than amare does. but we definitely have the assets to swing a trade with NY, especially now that melo has exploded in amare's absence (not really surprising)

it's funny how the tables have turned on amare who now has to show he is worthy and not destructive when he plays.

i'm really not too sure what we need....we have good players at every single spot...but 5x good players don't get you championships and i don't even know where the upgrade begins.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
April 18 2012 10:25 GMT
#6307
Does Houston still own NYC's pick this year?

Portland aren't going to give up LMA for anything Houston has so I think that's a bit of a pipe dream. I said Amare because I think the Knicks would be genuinely interested if the right package was dangled in front of them. I think this year has shown he and Melo don't work well together.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 18 2012 11:04 GMT
#6308
Without Amar'e the Knicks don't challenge for a title, or even a run in the Eastern conference. For the Knicks to give him up they would need to get back a very promising developed player since they are in win-now mode.

Unfortunately, Stoudemire's contract isn't insured so he isn't trade-able. Also what developed player do you pick up? You aren't getting back a super-star talent for Amar'e so at best you'd trade him + another player or two.

Now the problem is finding the player and the team willing to do that deal. Knicks also used their amnesty money on Billups. They really are in a very tough spot since Miami, Chicago, and now Indiana look like they are going to be the top dogs in the East for the foreseeable future.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
April 18 2012 11:16 GMT
#6309
Well I suggested Scola/Kevin Martin (works in trade checker).

Both sub-par defenders, but the presence of Chandler still give the Knicks solid defence (Shump too).

I think Scola and Kevin Martin would work well with Melo as well. Solid offensive players who don't need the ball as much as Amare does so Melo can dominate the ball like he wants. Kevin Martin has dropped off a bit this year but he's still an exceptional shooter who needs to be respected.

But as I said, it has a lot of risks. Amare's contract is a massive albatross and he isn't exactly playing like a max player. And then there's the injury concerns. It isn't without risks, but could be worth it for Houston.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 18 2012 11:21 GMT
#6310
Well, if Kevin Martin isn't getting to the Free Throw line his offense really isn't going to matter much. He needs the ball to do that unless you just want him sitting around as a 3pt threat.

Why would Houston do that trade anyway? Amar'e with an inferior version of last season's Knicks just puts them outside of a playoff run.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
April 18 2012 11:28 GMT
#6311
Yes but they have quite a bit of cap room (20mill) and trade assets. I'm more thinking of building something around Amare/Lowry.

Like say they get Amare then pick up Gerald Wallace and Ray Allen (a man can dream) in FA then you've got a pretty solid win-now squad for 2013:

Lowry
Allen
Wallace
Amare
Dalembert

There are a lot of big IFs in there, but I'm just throwing out some ideas.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 18 2012 11:41 GMT
#6312
And whats on the bench? I dont even think that is a scary starting 5.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
April 18 2012 12:54 GMT
#6313
Well yeah, but isn't that the same problem the Rockets have now?

It's a Playoff type team but I agree it isn't going to win it all. I was more discussing options with Doraemon about the Rockets options for next year.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
April 18 2012 15:25 GMT
#6314
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21192356/report-celtics-almost-sent-allen-memphis
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
April 18 2012 17:38 GMT
#6315
Good, I mean what was Memphis thinking? That would have been a great trade for the Celts.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
April 18 2012 18:08 GMT
#6316
k-marts value has gone down due to the rule change putting the onus of calls to the refs discretion. as good as a shooter he can be, he probably wont ever produce like he has in the past.

and scola probably benefits more from mchale than amare would. lma would be a great fit though, you can pry him from paul allens cold dead hands.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
April 18 2012 20:45 GMT
#6317
Just to top their season off, the Bobcats go at each other (like having every team pretty much raping them wasn't enough);
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--paul-silas--tyrus-thomas-have-altercation-in-bobcats--locker-room.html
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 18 2012 21:22 GMT
#6318
On April 18 2012 20:04 Ace wrote:
Without Amar'e the Knicks don't challenge for a title, or even a run in the Eastern conference. For the Knicks to give him up they would need to get back a very promising developed player since they are in win-now mode.

Unfortunately, Stoudemire's contract isn't insured so he isn't trade-able. Also what developed player do you pick up? You aren't getting back a super-star talent for Amar'e so at best you'd trade him + another player or two.

Now the problem is finding the player and the team willing to do that deal. Knicks also used their amnesty money on Billups. They really are in a very tough spot since Miami, Chicago, and now Indiana look like they are going to be the top dogs in the East for the foreseeable future.


The Knicks WITH Amare don't challenge for a title. He's not even performing at Boozer level.
Freeeeeeedom
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#6319
props to gordon hayward taking the high road after the wet willie from delonte west.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 18 2012 21:41 GMT
#6320
On April 19 2012 06:24 JiYan wrote:
props to gordon hayward taking the high road after the wet willie from delonte west.


It's not too hard to take the high road when you're dealing with Delonte West.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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