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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 08 2011 15:45 GMT
#1541
On October 08 2011 15:42 slyboogie wrote:
I'm all in on U/W Control. This is going to work, damn it! 2 Karns, 3 Elspeths and 2/3 Gideons, 3 Wurmcoils, 2 Sphinxes and all the regular trappings of Control. I'm going for this fucker: maindecking 4 timelys man. This is going to be good.


Elspeth is terrible anywhere outside of that tokens deck.
Get it by your hands...
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 08 2011 15:54 GMT
#1542
On October 08 2011 15:42 slyboogie wrote:
I'm all in on U/W Control. This is going to work, damn it! 2 Karns, 3 Elspeths and 2/3 Gideons, 3 Wurmcoils, 2 Sphinxes and all the regular trappings of Control. I'm going for this fucker: maindecking 4 timelys man. This is going to be good.


I hope that you don't actually plan on maindeck Elspeth, because she will have no function outside of a token deck. 3 Wurmcoils and two sphinxes seems a little excessive, two wurmcoils and two sphinxes is consistent enough for most builds.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 08 2011 16:04 GMT
#1543
On October 09 2011 00:45 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 15:42 slyboogie wrote:
I'm all in on U/W Control. This is going to work, damn it! 2 Karns, 3 Elspeths and 2/3 Gideons, 3 Wurmcoils, 2 Sphinxes and all the regular trappings of Control. I'm going for this fucker: maindecking 4 timelys man. This is going to be good.


Elspeth is terrible anywhere outside of that tokens deck.


Also, that is just way too many finishers. No deck needs 2 Karn, 3 Wurmcoil, and 2 Sphinx, especially on top of 5 other planeswalkers.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 08 2011 16:06 GMT
#1544
Karn in UW is pretty terrible. Your disruption package is pretty subpar.
Get it by your hands...
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
October 08 2011 16:20 GMT
#1545
Cracked a foil Liliana in a box! (woo 100 bucks~)

Add this to my (relatively) recent box crackings of:

Foil Jace the mind Sculptor
Foil Primeval Titan
Foil Grave Titan
Foil Koth of the Hammer

I know this post is fairly offtopic, but I feel like you all can appreciate the epicness <3 This makes it the 4th box I have gotten with over 200 dollar card value (Worldwake box, Scars, Conflux as the others)

(note: all of my friends who bought boxes had relative crap, seems a horseshoe is buried up my ass!)

SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 08 2011 16:24 GMT
#1546
On October 09 2011 01:20 Durp wrote:
Cracked a foil Liliana in a box! (woo 100 bucks~)

Add this to my (relatively) recent box crackings of:

Foil Jace the mind Sculptor
Foil Primeval Titan
Foil Grave Titan
Foil Koth of the Hammer

I know this post is fairly offtopic, but I feel like you all can appreciate the epicness <3 This makes it the 4th box I have gotten with over 200 dollar card value (Worldwake box, Scars, Conflux as the others)

(note: all of my friends who bought boxes had relative crap, seems a horseshoe is buried up my ass!)



You are in all seriousness the luckiest Magic player I have ever known of.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 08 2011 16:29 GMT
#1547
On October 09 2011 01:24 PraetorialGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 01:20 Durp wrote:
Cracked a foil Liliana in a box! (woo 100 bucks~)

Add this to my (relatively) recent box crackings of:

Foil Jace the mind Sculptor
Foil Primeval Titan
Foil Grave Titan
Foil Koth of the Hammer

I know this post is fairly offtopic, but I feel like you all can appreciate the epicness <3 This makes it the 4th box I have gotten with over 200 dollar card value (Worldwake box, Scars, Conflux as the others)

(note: all of my friends who bought boxes had relative crap, seems a horseshoe is buried up my ass!)



You are in all seriousness the luckiest Magic player I have ever known of.


Don't worry, he's not.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 16:32:23
October 08 2011 16:29 GMT
#1548
On October 09 2011 01:24 PraetorialGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 01:20 Durp wrote:
Cracked a foil Liliana in a box! (woo 100 bucks~)

Add this to my (relatively) recent box crackings of:

Foil Jace the mind Sculptor
Foil Primeval Titan
Foil Grave Titan
Foil Koth of the Hammer

I know this post is fairly offtopic, but I feel like you all can appreciate the epicness <3 This makes it the 4th box I have gotten with over 200 dollar card value (Worldwake box, Scars, Conflux as the others)

(note: all of my friends who bought boxes had relative crap, seems a horseshoe is buried up my ass!)



You are in all seriousness the luckiest Magic player I have ever known of.


Nope, limited draft last night...my friend got:

Foil Isolated Chapel 20 bucks
Liliana 70 bucks
Geist of Saint Traft 15 bucks

The same guy that went Koth, Foil Mox Opal, Sword of Body and Mind, Koth, Foil Koth in 5 weeks of drafting 3x SoM.

Goes to GP, gets 1 pack prize in side draft events, opens foil Sword of War and Peace.

Opens Sarkhan Vol later that night in our own little 3xRoE draft with half a box.

Da fuck is this shit?

Edit:

I can't complain though, cracked a Goyf from a fat pack from one of the shops who had one lying around. Then picked up a Scrubland for 20 and Demonic Tutor for 4 on ebay off of one seller.

We all have our stupidly good cracks/finds.
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 20:27:05
October 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#1549
I have never opened a planeswalker. I have also never opened a foil mythic or foil rare worth any money (Grim Lavamancer was the only one close). The most money I've ever gotten off a card was $20 off a Primeval Titan that I couldn't offload till after the Modern bannings + standard rotation so he was declining already.

In all of my drafts for the past month, I have never had a starting 7 between 2 and 5 land.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 08 2011 20:32 GMT
#1550
Shitty solar flare player on scglive for scg-nashville, how to suck at blowing up a mono red player that doesn't play a spell until 3 lands while resolving a gideon on turn.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#1551
The U/W deck is basically a straight rip from Tim Landale at Starcity. The decks fine. Elspeth's fine. U/W control is the future!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 08 2011 21:45 GMT
#1552
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi
Get it by your hands...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 08 2011 22:00 GMT
#1553
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 09 2011 00:32 GMT
#1554
It will see some play against tokens and White Sun's Zenith, both of which are making splashes in SCG Nashville.
Get it by your hands...
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 02:09:35
October 09 2011 02:08 GMT
#1555
On October 09 2011 07:00 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?


It only exiles what's in play.

Anyway, the card is good, incredibly good. A card that good will not go unplayed for long. Its main problem is Snapcaster Mage, since you can run Doom Blades and Day of Judgments and snap them back. It's kind of slow and it doesn't have a real place in the control people are building at the moment. However, the exiling and the echoing will both be relevant in certain metagames, especially in block or after Scars rotates. There will eventually be a point in time where people will look to run 2-3 of this, or up to 4 in the sideboard.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 04:11:09
October 09 2011 04:08 GMT
#1556
On October 09 2011 11:08 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 07:00 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?


It only exiles what's in play.

Anyway, the card is good, incredibly good. A card that good will not go unplayed for long. Its main problem is Snapcaster Mage, since you can run Doom Blades and Day of Judgments and snap them back. It's kind of slow and it doesn't have a real place in the control people are building at the moment. However, the exiling and the echoing will both be relevant in certain metagames, especially in block or after Scars rotates. There will eventually be a point in time where people will look to run 2-3 of this, or up to 4 in the sideboard.

The problem is that Memoricide is in the format, which is just plain better in constructed. Even without flashback (a problem that can be solved by snapcaster), it exiles non-creatures too, and they don't even have to be in play (most people know each other's decks).

Yeah, it's true that it doesn't deal with stuff that's already IN play, but the stuff you really want to exile is usually either slower than Memoricide or Hexproof anyway.

slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 09 2011 05:18 GMT
#1557
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Ratchet Bombs probably more of an issue than Sever the Bloodline. Ratchet Bomb is significantly cheaper and both move at basically the same speed. I don't see a lot of either at the moment.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 14:48:27
October 09 2011 10:31 GMT
#1558
On October 09 2011 13:08 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 11:08 Cel.erity wrote:
On October 09 2011 07:00 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?


It only exiles what's in play.

Anyway, the card is good, incredibly good. A card that good will not go unplayed for long. Its main problem is Snapcaster Mage, since you can run Doom Blades and Day of Judgments and snap them back. It's kind of slow and it doesn't have a real place in the control people are building at the moment. However, the exiling and the echoing will both be relevant in certain metagames, especially in block or after Scars rotates. There will eventually be a point in time where people will look to run 2-3 of this, or up to 4 in the sideboard.

The problem is that Memoricide is in the format, which is just plain better in constructed. Even without flashback (a problem that can be solved by snapcaster), it exiles non-creatures too, and they don't even have to be in play (most people know each other's decks).

Yeah, it's true that it doesn't deal with stuff that's already IN play, but the stuff you really want to exile is usually either slower than Memoricide or Hexproof anyway.



Edited: Lots of raging and facepalming. I don't think I can post in this thread anymore.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 09 2011 14:50 GMT
#1559
On October 09 2011 19:31 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 13:08 deth2munkies wrote:
On October 09 2011 11:08 Cel.erity wrote:
On October 09 2011 07:00 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?


It only exiles what's in play.

Anyway, the card is good, incredibly good. A card that good will not go unplayed for long. Its main problem is Snapcaster Mage, since you can run Doom Blades and Day of Judgments and snap them back. It's kind of slow and it doesn't have a real place in the control people are building at the moment. However, the exiling and the echoing will both be relevant in certain metagames, especially in block or after Scars rotates. There will eventually be a point in time where people will look to run 2-3 of this, or up to 4 in the sideboard.

The problem is that Memoricide is in the format, which is just plain better in constructed. Even without flashback (a problem that can be solved by snapcaster), it exiles non-creatures too, and they don't even have to be in play (most people know each other's decks).

Yeah, it's true that it doesn't deal with stuff that's already IN play, but the stuff you really want to exile is usually either slower than Memoricide or Hexproof anyway.



Edited: Lots of raging and facepalming. I don't think I can post in this thread anymore.

Oh come on, I'm stupid but I can't be THAT stupid.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
October 09 2011 16:16 GMT
#1560
On October 09 2011 23:50 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 19:31 Cel.erity wrote:
On October 09 2011 13:08 deth2munkies wrote:
On October 09 2011 11:08 Cel.erity wrote:
On October 09 2011 07:00 bumatlarge wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:45 Judicator wrote:
Sever the Bloodline and Ratchet Bomb says hi


Do you think sever the bloodline will see alot of constructed play? I picked one up in a draft, and it seems like pretty insane removal with flashback, but 4 mana is a lot. Does it exile from the graveyard as well or only the field?


It only exiles what's in play.

Anyway, the card is good, incredibly good. A card that good will not go unplayed for long. Its main problem is Snapcaster Mage, since you can run Doom Blades and Day of Judgments and snap them back. It's kind of slow and it doesn't have a real place in the control people are building at the moment. However, the exiling and the echoing will both be relevant in certain metagames, especially in block or after Scars rotates. There will eventually be a point in time where people will look to run 2-3 of this, or up to 4 in the sideboard.

The problem is that Memoricide is in the format, which is just plain better in constructed. Even without flashback (a problem that can be solved by snapcaster), it exiles non-creatures too, and they don't even have to be in play (most people know each other's decks).

Yeah, it's true that it doesn't deal with stuff that's already IN play, but the stuff you really want to exile is usually either slower than Memoricide or Hexproof anyway.



Edited: Lots of raging and facepalming. I don't think I can post in this thread anymore.

Oh come on, I'm stupid but I can't be THAT stupid.

Memoricide is a card doesn't seemingly do anything. At most it removes a 'threat' that may have never existed.
It is silly to compare it to a removal spell that directly affects board state.
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