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bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
October 30 2012 19:28 GMT
#4781
I just don't see why you would rage at your opponent when you know you kept a bad hand.
Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
October 30 2012 19:41 GMT
#4782
On October 31 2012 04:28 bobbob wrote:
I just don't see why you would rage at your opponent when you know you kept a bad hand.

cause he was worse -.- there's never a good reason. it always feels necessary at the time, there's no real justification for it
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 31 2012 01:29 GMT
#4783
On October 31 2012 04:41 Artifex Magnus wrote:
cause he was worse

From the few minutes I watched you play, I highly doubt that. Until you find out that you don't know everything, you can't get better. Maybe you will stop raging when you realize this, it is just a game and you are not supposed to win.
I can already see the ending
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#4784
What does him being worse even matter? I mean I gauge the skill of my opponents all of the time too, but that's only to see if I can exploit some line that isn't there with a better player.

Case in point, last week, I had the jankiest draft deck ever and in round 1, I noticed my opponent missing Lobber Crew activation in game 2, made a mental note of that. In game 3, I had him dead on board with both of us low life (lethal for both), 5 mana untapped, holding Staticaster and Street Spasm. He has a Judge's Familiar in play, and then plays Traitorous Instinct on one of my blockers, which puts me dead on board. He swings, I spasm one of his 2/1 unblockable for 2 mana (3 mana now) and he let it resolve. Then I flash in the Staticaster for blocks and I stay alive at 1 and crack back for lethal.

Now why the story? My deck sucked (4 color only 2 gates), and I needed to play extremely tight on top of hoping for things to happen against my opponent. If I didn't notice that he isn't aware of game states, I would have lost the match then there if I played things differently (Staticaster over the Spasm first). He tried to back track saying that I played them both at once (never passing priority) but I clearly let the Spasm resolve first. Was he a bad player? Sure, did it matter? Only to him at the end.

I lost later in the night to an on curve Hypersonic Dragon (had counterspell but the land I just played was a guildgate), just chalked it up to karma and moved on.
Get it by your hands...
Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
October 31 2012 03:53 GMT
#4785
On October 31 2012 10:29 DCLXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 04:41 Artifex Magnus wrote:
cause he was worse

From the few minutes I watched you play, I highly doubt that. Until you find out that you don't know everything, you can't get better. Maybe you will stop raging when you realize this, it is just a game and you are not supposed to win.

great job ignoring the rest of my post
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 31 2012 05:01 GMT
#4786
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.
I can already see the ending
Artifex Magnus
Profile Joined August 2012
United States75 Posts
October 31 2012 05:04 GMT
#4787
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 07:46:04
October 31 2012 07:43 GMT
#4788
Well, you are somewhat trying to excuse your raging, which is not particularly acceptable IMO. When you rage you imply that you lost unjustly, and whether it be luck, your mistake, or your opponent's good play, none of it is really a reason to insult your opponent. If he played well, compliment him. When I see someone beat me through very tight play, I tell them that.

The only time you have a reason to rage is when the luck is seriously bad, in which case if you need to vent, blame the deck, not the opponent (and vent to your opponent how unlucky you were if you really need to). Today for example, I kept 4 lands 3 spells, proceeded to draw 8 lands and 3 spells over the next 11 turns. I was pretty unhappy, then game 3 I lost because my 4c manabase was not enough of a work of art, so I had to play an Axebane and wait a turn to be able to remove his Rix Maadi, costing me the game. I will also chalk it up to karma for game 1 being Pack Rat: the Gathering.

EDIT: Having your own mistake cost you the game is also a good time to complain, but more to yourself, you can mentally hit yourself a few times.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 31 2012 19:27 GMT
#4789
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 31 2012 19:36 GMT
#4790
On November 01 2012 04:27 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.


Yep.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring MtG pros, blaming yourself is better than blaming others, the former you'll actually improve and the latter you'll just rage.
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 20:22:07
October 31 2012 20:11 GMT
#4791
On November 01 2012 04:36 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 04:27 slyboogie wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.


Yep.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring MtG pros, blaming yourself is better than blaming others, the former you'll actually improve and the latter you'll just rage.


Truth. Respect. Brotherhood.

Edit: I'm making an Esper unburial deck. It will be glorious.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 31 2012 21:54 GMT
#4792
On November 01 2012 05:11 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 04:36 Judicator wrote:
On November 01 2012 04:27 slyboogie wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.


Yep.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring MtG pros, blaming yourself is better than blaming others, the former you'll actually improve and the latter you'll just rage.


Truth. Respect. Brotherhood.

Edit: I'm making an Esper unburial deck. It will be glorious.


Let me act out Risen's attempt at Esper right now.
+ Show Spoiler +

THIS MANA BASE IS TERRIBLE WTF CANT CAST ANYTHING RAGERAGERAGE.


In all seriousness, I think that's the thing you'll notice when you try to.
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 31 2012 22:08 GMT
#4793
On November 01 2012 06:54 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 05:11 Risen wrote:
On November 01 2012 04:36 Judicator wrote:
On November 01 2012 04:27 slyboogie wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.


Yep.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring MtG pros, blaming yourself is better than blaming others, the former you'll actually improve and the latter you'll just rage.


Truth. Respect. Brotherhood.

Edit: I'm making an Esper unburial deck. It will be glorious.


Let me act out Risen's attempt at Esper right now.
+ Show Spoiler +

THIS MANA BASE IS TERRIBLE WTF CANT CAST ANYTHING RAGERAGERAGE.


In all seriousness, I think that's the thing you'll notice when you try to.


Am I a bad person for making the attempt, coming to this conclusion, and then purposefully not posting in here b/c I knew you'd get me for it hahaha
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 22:49:55
October 31 2012 22:48 GMT
#4794
On November 01 2012 07:08 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 06:54 Judicator wrote:
On November 01 2012 05:11 Risen wrote:
On November 01 2012 04:36 Judicator wrote:
On November 01 2012 04:27 slyboogie wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:04 Artifex Magnus wrote:
On October 31 2012 14:01 DCLXVI wrote:
-judicator
His attitude that he is the better player is the issue here. From his posts in this thread and the few minutes I listened to him, his attitude of superiority (whether he admits to it or not) is probably the cause of his raging.

'He' thinks you're an idiot. Read my post, child. I don't make excuses, and I don't say it's okay either.

User was banned for this post.


Another nerd-rage victim of Magic the Gathering. *pours some liquor out.


Yep.

Let this be a lesson to all aspiring MtG pros, blaming yourself is better than blaming others, the former you'll actually improve and the latter you'll just rage.


Truth. Respect. Brotherhood.

Edit: I'm making an Esper unburial deck. It will be glorious.


Let me act out Risen's attempt at Esper right now.
+ Show Spoiler +

THIS MANA BASE IS TERRIBLE WTF CANT CAST ANYTHING RAGERAGERAGE.


In all seriousness, I think that's the thing you'll notice when you try to.


Am I a bad person for making the attempt, coming to this conclusion, and then purposefully not posting in here b/c I knew you'd get me for it hahaha


No, only because I went down that road many times already. After rotation. Multiple times.

It's like when you are out of food in the fridge and you know it's out of food, but you still go back expecting it not to be.

Edit: I like how my Reanimator deck is named NeoFlare, but it plays nothing like a Flare deck.
Get it by your hands...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 31 2012 22:52 GMT
#4795
Lol, well I don't feel so bad now XD
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
October 31 2012 23:48 GMT
#4796
Has anyone tried to go Orzhov or Boros in draft?

If so, has anyone had success?

There was an article on the mothership about it the other day, and I must say, attacking with a 5/4 first striking life linking cat on turn 2 does sound appealing.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 01 2012 00:41 GMT
#4797
On November 01 2012 08:48 last.resistance wrote:
Has anyone tried to go Orzhov or Boros in draft?

If so, has anyone had success?

There was an article on the mothership about it the other day, and I must say, attacking with a 5/4 first striking life linking cat on turn 2 does sound appealing.


How does this happen? Even if possible, how does this happen regularly/not with a god draw.

I've had the most success drafting Grixis, but maybe that's b/c my LGS heavily favors drafting Bant colors.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 01:11:25
November 01 2012 01:08 GMT
#4798
Trained Caracal, Ethereal Armor and Deviant Glee. Of the three cards only Glee is a somewhat mediocre pick.

It seems like the gameplan relies on the fact that there is very little instant speed removal and very little cheap removal.

One drops plus cheap enchantments that nobody wants. Mutiple Ethereal Armors (4-5 seems to be the desired number)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 01:16:37
November 01 2012 01:11 GMT
#4799
On November 01 2012 10:08 last.resistance wrote:
Trained Caracal, Ethereal Armor and Deviant Glee. Of the three cards only Glee is a somewhat mediocre pick.


Try, out of all 3 only Glee is playable...if you are short on playables.

That is a great way to multiple 2 for 1 and 3 for 1s built in, on top of still dying to Augur Spree (a common).

Edit:

Also, when you said from the mothership, I assume you meant from the Wizards site. While that site is good for a lot of things, strategy and deck building are not .
Get it by your hands...
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
November 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#4800
That's why I ask on here before attempting it.

Just trying to see if there is a different way to attack the format, like the Door Keeper defender mill deck.
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