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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
June 05 2011 00:15 GMT
#1741
I really hope blizz won't hesitate and have no mercy for d2jsp sites. You can't obviously control it all since little closed off/private FG forums will exist, but those can't grow into anything big, otherwise D3 will be fucked.

Even w/o the FG sites, there surely will be a lot of sweat shops that right now are wow based but will turn into D3 shops at the day of the release.
Not even death can save you from me.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
June 05 2011 00:27 GMT
#1742
On June 05 2011 06:16 Trajan98 wrote:
Blizz could always just make the majority of good items soulbound so they cant be traded enless you sell your account.

Blizzard tried that out but then they decided not to.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
June 05 2011 00:31 GMT
#1743
Yeah. If you don't equip an item, its not soulbound. Thats with every item besides quest items etc
Not even death can save you from me.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
June 05 2011 00:44 GMT
#1744
I guess I don't understand why people are opposed to jsp. I used jsp quite a bit in D2 and I really enjoyed it. It was a lot easier than trying to trade in game and imo D2 was designed to encourage p2p trades.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 00:48:57
June 05 2011 00:46 GMT
#1745
I think d2jsp works fine for D2 (in that is was really the best way it could be done with the limitations of the game).

Blizzard is making the right decision by fighting it in Diablo 3 though, and it won't be necessary anyways seeing as how they are going to make gold into an actual useful currency.
Dr.Kill-Joy
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States627 Posts
June 05 2011 00:50 GMT
#1746
Thank god. Gold was only good for mercs.
About To Ass Rape That Face Wit Some Words
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 05 2011 00:53 GMT
#1747
On June 05 2011 09:44 Joedaddy wrote:
I guess I don't understand why people are opposed to jsp. I used jsp quite a bit in D2 and I really enjoyed it. It was a lot easier than trying to trade in game and imo D2 was designed to encourage p2p trades.


what about players that do not use jsp ? how about all those 100k++ fg whos going to buy every top tier item off you, screwed up the market prices and caused noone else get to even use those items unless they found it themselves?

D2 was designed to encourage p2p trades ? yes and it was a big part that make D2 so successful back in the day but D2jsp isnt related to that "AT ALL"
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Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
June 05 2011 00:57 GMT
#1748
PM me if you are interested in playing the game through beginning to end without giving your guy tons or pro items etc.

Just wanna play the game the way it was meant to be played.
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2plusthree
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 01:23:00
June 05 2011 01:18 GMT
#1749
On June 03 2011 12:34 MrProb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 12:25 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I feel like people have some huge misconception where 99% of FG on d2jsp is obtained through botting in diablo 2. While it's likely that some people obtained a large amount of FG through botting there are plenty of legitimate accounts as well. Every one is not a hacker/botter/cheater.

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Would you like to see d2jsp in Diablo 3?

I would be very against d2jsp (or any website like it). (44)
 
66%

I would not play D3 if d2jsp was rampant. (10)
 
15%

I don't really care. (10)
 
15%

I would love to see d2jsp in D3 (I'm already rich) (3)
 
4%

67 total votes

Your vote: Would you like to see d2jsp in Diablo 3?

(Vote): I would not play D3 if d2jsp was rampant.
(Vote): I would be very against d2jsp (or any website like it).
(Vote): I don't really care.
(Vote): I would love to see d2jsp in D3 (I'm already rich)



Have fun not playing Diablo 3 whomever said they wouldn't play if d2jsp was rampant. I don't know what you mean by rampant, but people will be trading through d2jsp. It has trading for most of the popular online games and there's no reason Diablo 3 won't be included.

I can't understand why people are so against d2jsp when it probably won't even affect them at all. All the items sold for FG at the start of Diablo 3 will likely clean out the richest people on the website. Does it really matter that some guy has some awesome item that you'll probably never meet? If he hadn't bought it with forum gold he might have bought it from ebay. Does it really matter either way?


There are quite a few ppl with 100k+ fg and a large number with 50k+ fg, problem is, those guys will always get all the items they want w/o paying anything except for "fg"

Does it really matter that some guy has some awesome item that you'll probably never meet? yes it does.is there really a D2 player whom never dream of finding an elite unique item of his/her class ?

the difference between the BEST possible setup, and a decent setup is almost meaningless... having 50k+ fg might look nice, but a character that costs 10% of that will perform just as well. the really expensive items are usually a collectors item or melee, so normal players aren't at some kind of disadvantage by not owning it.

gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
June 05 2011 11:16 GMT
#1750
On June 05 2011 09:44 Joedaddy wrote:
I guess I don't understand why people are opposed to jsp. I used jsp quite a bit in D2 and I really enjoyed it. It was a lot easier than trying to trade in game and imo D2 was designed to encourage p2p trades.


D2 trade system sucked ass. D3-s won't.
Not even death can save you from me.
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
June 05 2011 11:47 GMT
#1751
Emmm... why would anyone sell their stuff in a brand new game for a currency which is completely worthless in that same brand new game? What are they going to do with it, buy some leet items in Diablo 2? D3 will have an auction house system much like WoW and people will trade their items for gold because Blizzard is making gold a legitimate currency in Diablo 3 as was stated countless times. That pretty much ends this discussion but if you guys want to sell top notch items which would probably go for a hefty sum of gold (actually used to buy stuff in d3) for a retarded currency used to purchase shit for a 20 year old game and some obscure titles noone plays be my guest lol.
ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
June 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#1752
On June 03 2011 05:55 P00RKID wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 05:45 ibreakurface wrote:
On June 03 2011 03:43 Sm3agol wrote:


I'll bring in my earlier statement.
Competitive cup stacking is a skill, but that hardly means anyone is interested in how well you do it.
I'm sorry but this is just a horrible argument. Just because something has a small fanbase doesn't mean it isn't competitive. D2 PvP is competitive, skill required and how you get better at it is irrelevant.


Being "pro" is only 2000 hours away.


That's how everything works. Whether it's grinding for gear, or grinding for skill/knowledge.



Grinding for gear doesn't make you "pro" in the same sense that being pro = having skill. Give perfect characters to a pro and an amateur, the pro will always win if the battle is based off of skill. If it is based off of your gear, then it doesn't matter and either can win. A pro could spend his time doing something else, have somebody grind up a character for him to use, then use it and win with it. The amount you have to grind doesn't showcase your skill, and if the better geared character always wins, then skill gets replaced with many hours of grinding.


I see grinding for gear, and grinding for skill to be very similar. The key difference is when gear is involved you can cheat by having someone else do the time for you, then reaping the benefits. Assuming no one cheats whoever puts more time into something will be better, gear or skill.
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U mad bro
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada6 Posts
June 06 2011 01:02 GMT
#1753
In on dis. Can't wait for d3!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 07 2011 00:49 GMT
#1754
Apparently blizz is hiring some ps3 console designer D:

D3 on console??? OMG!!!! i cant believe this. blizz really changed or????

i get the news from here anyway:
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
June 07 2011 04:38 GMT
#1755
On June 07 2011 09:49 BurningSera wrote:
Apparently blizz is hiring some ps3 console designer D:

D3 on console??? OMG!!!! i cant believe this. blizz really changed or????

i get the news from here anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTJVIn7qcG8&feature=feedu


no. if they're making a console diablo, its a separate title being developed separately.
I get brain like a skull
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
June 07 2011 04:50 GMT
#1756
Activision probably forced the issue
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
June 07 2011 04:52 GMT
#1757
Unlike FPS and RTS, I have no issue with a game like diablo 3 being on console. I don't see why anyone would dislike that to be the case.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 07 2011 04:54 GMT
#1758
On June 07 2011 13:38 jimmyjingle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 09:49 BurningSera wrote:
Apparently blizz is hiring some ps3 console designer D:

D3 on console??? OMG!!!! i cant believe this. blizz really changed or????

i get the news from here anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTJVIn7qcG8&feature=feedu


no. if they're making a console diablo, its a separate title being developed separately.


In case you haven't noticed that's what every game company says every time...
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
June 07 2011 04:55 GMT
#1759
On June 05 2011 09:27 R0YAL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 06:16 Trajan98 wrote:
Blizz could always just make the majority of good items soulbound so they cant be traded enless you sell your account.

Blizzard tried that out but then they decided not to.


And thank god for that. It wouldnt be diablo if items where soulbound. One of the best things i really enjoyed in early D2 Lod was trading :p

Also being able to gather gear for other chars is essencial I think. And last but not least, HC chars that dies....your friends can pickup the gear and give it back.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
June 07 2011 05:26 GMT
#1760
On June 07 2011 13:52 Xapti wrote:
Unlike FPS and RTS, I have no issue with a game like diablo 3 being on console. I don't see why anyone would dislike that to be the case.


yeah exactly. there's no reason to believe the PC version of the game has been altered in any way for a console release.
I get brain like a skull
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